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Old 01-15-2019, 4:42 AM
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Many will be good w/out paying the background check fees for a couple of years at least, but you only have until 7/1/2019 (is it?) to stock up so you don't either.
No need in Jerry getting even more of your paycheck...

Those w/a reloading press require not much more than a bunch of stocked rimfire to stay above the effects of groupthink, at least for a couple of years...
and components can be MUCH cheaper than ammo.
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Old 01-15-2019, 5:19 AM
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I would double everything there. I would then get a brass catcher for the rifles and a reloading setup. 1,000 rounds of 45 and 5.56, primers, powder, etc.
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Old 01-15-2019, 5:22 AM
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A lot of countries/people in WW2 wish they had more guns and ammo as they were being invaded. Who is the fool who thinks there will not be war on US soil again. Pull your head out and prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
If China was landing on the beaches of LA are you prepared?
If we go to war with Mexico again, are you prepared?
If CA goes Socialist and UT want to keep the Constitution- if civil war breaks out in the USA AGAIN, are you ready?
How much AMMO do you need to protect GOD, FAMILY & COUNTRY?
Answer= A LOT
Donít forget magazines. 24+ per rifle and a dump pouch each. 12+ per pistol. Mags wear out so buy a few sets of springs, followers and base plates.
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Old 01-15-2019, 6:56 AM
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Many will be good w/out paying the background check fees for a couple of years at least, but you only have until 7/1/2019 (is it?) to stock up so you don't either.
No need in Jerry getting even more of your paycheck...

Those w/a reloading press require not much more than a bunch of stocked rimfire to stay above the effects of groupthink, at least for a couple of years...
and components can be MUCH cheaper than ammo.
I don't mind the background check or the fees very much. I can pass a background check. What bothers me is the reporting of caliber, type and quantity of ammo purchased to the state. Why? Because it is none of their business.

If somebody buys 10K golf balls, nobody will care. But buying 10K rounds of ammo is sure to gain attention. We see all the time in the media when some thug gets busted with an 'arsenal' of 3 guns and 200 rounds of ammo. No, thanks. I'm not planning to play that game.

I am currently well-stocked and I reload. I don't plan to ever buy another round of ammo in this state because what I buy is nobody's business but my own.

I can see limits on possession coming in the future, once CA DOJ and our legislature start tracking the amount of ammo being purchased.
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:02 AM
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People who don't shoot always seem to think 10,000 rounds is a lot.
This right here. When I was shooting regularly (1 or 2 times per month) I was always surprised at 2 things:

1. How quickly I ran out of ammo at the range
2. How my inventory total never really went up, even though I was ordering ammo on the reg

I've always viewed ammo in a SHTF scenario as being useful as currency, but also the perspective of you may never be able to replenish the stock, so you better stock deep.
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I got 3k 22lr, 500 9mm and 250 shells, I am good
Good for what, the weekend?
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How many rounds does a prepper think they can shoot without being shot?
All of them.

If that isn't your mentality, you're not prepping. Doesn't mean you're wrong. In TEOTWAWKI of course many people will die without even firing a single shot of their ammo. But prepping is about hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.

Most of the stereotypical movies about post apocalyptic society do not feature real preppers. The real preppers in those movies would be quietly living off of what they've stored and waiting for the most bloodthirsty part of SHTF to blow over. That's why you can never have enough ammo. Because survival isn't about finding food and water, it's about keeping what you already have.

Preppers that learn to live off the land, learn to do without common comforts/conveniences, and stock supplies on a defensible property. Those people can reasonably fight off a lot, if they even have to at all depending on how remote they are.
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Donít forget magazines. 24+ per rifle and a dump pouch each. 12+ per pistol. Mags wear out so buy a few sets of springs, followers and base plates.
+1 things wear out! Keep those parts bins full too
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Old 01-15-2019, 10:41 AM
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I got 3k 22lr, 500 9mm and 250 shells, I am good
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Good for what, the weekend?
Oh man!...I got a good belly laugh over this.
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Have two good friends with 10,000's of rounds of ammo keep telling me that I must get more. Mind you I live on a boat and weight is an issue on a sailboat.
Do you have a lead keel on the vessel? I'd think space is more of an issue than extra ballast.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:14 AM
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Yes I do. I just fear getting slowed down by adding a lot more and yes space is an issue. I'm going to add a 22 this year to the mix and space isn't a big deal for it that's mostly on the .308 / 300WM that I worry about.

BTW stores are not indicative of what is used in practice. Everyone practices at different levels. Myself included.

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Sailboat.
I would be stocking up on fishing supplies.
Supplies to repair sail.
Bringing fresh fish into port to preppers is food. They will protect you.
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Have two good friends with 10,000's of rounds of ammo keep telling me that I must get more.
My situation aside if I were land based I guess I don't see the need for more than I could shoot? How many rounds does a prepper think they can shoot without being shot?
I live in CA, 2nd Amendment rights are constantly under attack. Their paranoia for more ammo is WELL FOUNDED.
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I live in CA, 2nd Amendment rights are constantly under attack. Their paranoia for more ammo is WELL FOUNDED.
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They probably cant shoot ?
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Have two good friends with 10,000's of rounds of ammo keep telling me that I must get more. Mind you I live on a boat and weight is an issue on a sailboat. I was thinking about it though and realized if I ran out of 250 rounds of 45 acp, ran out of 500 rounds of 5.56 and the 100 rounds of 300 WM the SHTF would be real; and seriously if I went through that much ammo what chance in hell does one have on a fiberglass sailboat anyway?

My situation aside if I were land based I guess I don't see the need for more than I could shoot? How many rounds does a prepper think they can shoot without being shot?
Hoarding ammo is not necessarily a "prepper" behavior per se.
I know more than a few people that hoard ammo just because of the restrictive anti firearm laws under which we all labor here in the Neo Communist Democrat Paradise.

Serious prepared people have a logistical plan with regard to items they stock and they never divulge details of their plans.
Diversity of stocked items is key. Besides, you can't eat/drink bullets.
Forget what you see/hear on t.v. or radio etc.. Prepared people are usually very logical, pragmatic types and have multi dimensional skill sets.
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you definitely need more than the minimal amount for training & defense

some could be lost by fire / flood / natural disasters

especially if you keep all your eggs in one basket, thats why you need more than you might use, some could be lost , confiscated by National Guard / LE

the same thing happened during Hurricane Katrina, they might take it
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you definitely need more than the minimal amount for training & defense



some could be lost by fire / flood / natural disasters



especially if you keep all your eggs in one basket, thats why you need more than you might use, some could be lost , confiscated by National Guard / LE



the same thing happened during Hurricane Katrina, they might take it
That's especially true in this case.

After all, he might have a tragic boating accident ...

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Have two good friends with 10,000's of rounds of ammo keep telling me that I must get more. Mind you I live on a boat and weight is an issue on a sailboat. I was thinking about it though and realized if I ran out of 250 rounds of 45 acp, ran out of 500 rounds of 5.56 and the 100 rounds of 300 WM the SHTF would be real; and seriously if I went through that much ammo what chance in hell does one have on a fiberglass sailboat anyway?

My situation aside if I were land based I guess I don't see the need for more than I could shoot? How many rounds does a prepper think they can shoot without being shot?
There is no correct amount of ammo in a true SHTF or End of The World Stuff. Many posts here talk about 10,000+ rounds, 2,000 per weekend, etc. But that is “To be Prepeared FOR the SHTF”. Once the “S” has hit, you will not need 10,000 rounds unless you plan on holding up in your house.

OP is on a boat so fairly mobile. Most of us who will have to bug out in a car will be luck to take 5 firearms and 2,000 rounds. The rest of the SUV will have food and water. Those who bug out on Foot, maybe 2 firearms and 250 rounds max and that’s a lot.

So pre SHTF you need a bunch to practice.
Post SHTF depends on bug in vs bug out

(I have over 10,000 rounds but only because I bought a bunch online before the new rules. Most will be left behind when I bug out]

Side note the boat is one of the best bugout vehicles especially for a Viral SHTF scenario or to avoid mobs and zombies
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Yep, I have all I want. For decades, if I saw a bargain, I bought a bunch. When they threatened a per bullet tax, I bought a bunch. Gunmageddon? Loaded up. When they enacted the ban on Internet sales. Well, let's just say my UPS guy hated my guts.
I guess It's really not TEOTWAKI I worry about so much as the government messing with my rights.
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OP, keep what you need on the boat.... rent a storage unit nearby to keep your surplus stuff. If you have enough room in the storage unit and opted for climate controled, you could set up a workbench for reloading. Most indoors climate controlled units have a light and have seen an outlet.

Just an option for you...
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I don't think it is a fear of running out of ammo, as much as "If you really need it, can you get it."
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