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Old 11-20-2014, 3:22 AM
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We had the pleasure of spending some time visiting the IWI Facility and checking out the new IWI Galil ACE rifles and pistols. The gun is well thought out and very impressive .






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Old 11-20-2014, 7:33 PM
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Old 11-20-2014, 7:46 PM
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Too bad it says "GALIL" on the side of the receiver.
Banned by name in CA.
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(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models
identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and
86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1.
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.............
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Too bad it says "GALIL" on the side of the receiver.
Banned by name in CA.
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Thats not a problem since its made by iwi. Only the imi galil is a named aw. Weird how inverting a character is all it takes buts the illogic of the named list.
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Old 11-21-2014, 3:06 AM
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So is this a teaser or will you be offering a CA compliant mdl
Also approx price

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Old 11-21-2014, 6:15 AM
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Thats not a problem since its made by iwi. Only the imi galil is a named aw. Weird how inverting a character is all it takes buts the illogic of the named list.
Are you sure? Are you really sure?
Where are you getting this, or are you deciding this for yourself?
Look at the list posted below.
Nowhere in the law does it say "IMI" or "Israeli Military Industries," it only says "Galil"
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30510. As used in this chapter and in Sections 16780, 17000, and
27555, "assault weapon" means the following designated semiautomatic
firearms:
(a) All of the following specified rifles:
(1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models
identified as follows:
(A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and
86S.
(B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
(C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
(D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(2) UZI and Galil.
(3) Beretta AR-70.
(4) CETME Sporter.
(5) Colt AR-15 series.
(6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
(7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
(8) MAS 223.
(9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1.
(10) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M11.
(11) SKS with detachable magazine.
(12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
(13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
(14) Sterling MK-6.
(15) Steyer AUG.
(16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
(17) Armalite AR-180.
(18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
(19) Calico M-900.
(20) J&R ENG M-68.
(21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(b) All of the following specified pistols:
(1) UZI.
(2) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.
(3) The following MAC types:
(A) RPB Industries Inc. sM10 and sM11.
(B) SWD Incorporated M-11.
(C) Advance Armament Inc. M-11.
(D) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11.
(4) Intratec TEC-9.
(5) Sites Spectre.
(6) Sterling MK-7.
(7) Calico M-950.
(8) Bushmaster Pistol.
(c) All of the following specified shotguns:
(1) Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12.
(2) Striker 12.
(3) The Streetsweeper type S/S Inc. SS/12.
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Old 11-21-2014, 6:17 AM
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So....Atlantic Firearms....what is your take on whether or not it is legal?
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This is joj position on kasler:

What is the Kasler v. Lockyer California Supreme Court decision and what does it do?

This court decision upholds the constitutionality of the Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989. As a result, DOJ is obligated to enforce the statute with respect to identification of category 3 assault weapons (AK and AR-15 series weapons). These assault weapons are listed in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 979.11.

So make and model was only for ar15 and ak series. Didnt cover galil. So its a grey area....

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This is joj position on kasler:

What is the Kasler v. Lockyer California Supreme Court decision and what does it do?

This court decision upholds the constitutionality of the Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989. As a result, DOJ is obligated to enforce the statute with respect to identification of category 3 assault weapons (AK and AR-15 series weapons). These assault weapons are listed in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 979.11.

So make and model was only for ar15 and ak series. Didn't cover galil. So its a grey area....
You are confusing your stuff.
Galil's were never covered under series (though you could say they are an AK series, but it doesn't matter anyway), and Harrot was the case that did away with it effectively.
Either way you are over thinking it (IMHO anyway, IANAL)
Question: Does the receiver say "Galil" on it? Answer: Yes
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You are confusing your stuff.
Galil's were never covered under series (though you could say they are an AK series, but it doesn't matter anyway), and Harrot was the case that did away with it effectively.
Either way you are over thinking it (IMHO anyway, IANAL)
Question: Does the receiver say "Galil" on it? Answer: Yes
Its grey area because kasler only covered ar-15 and ak series for make and model. Doj hasnt been forced to include galils into this standard as stated on their website quote i furnished above. doj would prob loose in court if they claimed all galil rifles were aws...regardless of mfg...but who wants to deal with a court battle.

My take is that its a grey area. I can be done but it is a risk as leo could interpret these rifles as aws and leave it up to the da to prosecute.
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Atlantic has them priced at $1899. Looks like I won't be replacing my AK anytime soon.
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The price listed in the suggested MSRP coming from IWI , We are not sure what the final price of the rifles will be until they are actually in hand.
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Its grey area because kasler only covered ar-15 and ak series for make and model. Doj hasnt been forced to include galils into this standard as stated on their website quote i furnished above. doj would prob loose in court if they claimed all galil rifles were aws...regardless of mfg...but who wants to deal with a court battle.

My take is that its a grey area. I can be done but it is a risk as leo could interpret these rifles as aws and leave it up to the da to prosecute.
Its the original Roberti Roos list. Kasler, Harrott, all that stuff has nothing to do with this. Roberti Roos does not say "IMI."
Your position on this is basically "Yeah, it should be OK because I'll win in court."
I'm telling you, as long as these say "Galil" on them, you should consider them Kryptonite.
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