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Also, for the record, the 1911/2011 guys are cleaning mags not firearms between stages. Your comparison doesn't really work.
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You know you can fire a striker gun without the FRAME or TRIGGER?
If you have the slide and the barrel, you can fire a striker gun... it's basically a zip gun. And that's whey plastic framed guns are all striker fired. Apart from the recoil, there is no stress on the frame at all. And yeah, get some grit in front of your hammer and see how well that works. However, i'm guessing this entire thread is yet another "plastic guns suck" troll thread. Enjoy.
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I was going to argue more, but decided that I don't really care if OP hates striker fired guns. More power to him!
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So what happens when they DON'T clean the mags? 1911's have crappy mags? That is part of the gun IMHO. A pretty important part, too.
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You wouldn't think the 2011/unlimited guys would need to clean mags as they don't have to drop nearly as many mags as us production guys do.
I went from CZ to Glock for production, and in most situations prefer a striker fired handgun. Only problem I have ever had was when I went to too light of spring. I sold off my HK, Sigs and now only have one CZ and 1911 left. All fine guns, but mainly sticking with one platform now for anything but the range. |
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"They chose a striker gun with a sand and water cover shielding the striker and water cups to keep the striker from hydraulicking."
What is a "sand and water cover". Never heard of such a thing. The term was never used in the Armorers course. Sounds to me like someone is inventing terms to support his position. Last edited by 003; 12-03-2016 at 5:38 AM.. |
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G19 has no flaws. If you want to design the most perfect pistol start with a G19 and change nothing. Done.
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I actually prefer a 17 due to the grip length.
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Blasphemy!!!!
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ALSO, you are basing the In any case, I think the 1911 will fare the least out of all the platforms. Especially in the sand/dirt test |
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I wish the glock had the design and ergo of the hk vp9, id be all over it. |
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Will you be open carrying it? Will you walk over large bodies of water multiple times a day? Probably not. Therefore chances of water lodging into the striker channel are slim to none for the average civilian trying to use a vp9 as their primary defensive weapon. Besides. In the recent MAC retest of the vp9 passed the water dunk. So the hydro locking issue is really a moot point. Unless you got copious amounts of sand or mud that thick around you at all times, you should be fine IMO https://youtu.be/WMDMAEwjAeI |
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Umm
Because the 100 year old gun has been getting the job done for... Wait for it... 100 years!! There must be something going for a design that nearly every pistol manufacturer makes. re: Striker vs hammer pistols ANY gun can fail when abused.
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You have no idea what the word 'hydraulic' really means do you?
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You're probably right about less stress in a striker fired gun frame, but you are not right about all "plastic" (polymer) guns being striker fired, there are quite a few external hammer guns with polymer frames, such as the H&K USP which is a fantastic gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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He probably meant hydrolock. The striker and cups are a quasi piston. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolock .
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Hmmm, never had to do that with any of M&P's. I guess they are flawed as you suggest.
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As mentioned already. You should familiarize yourself with different models as some don't require squeezing the trigger to disassemble. S&W M&Ps don't require it. Springfield XDMs don't require it.
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This thread is is full of...and everyone entertained the op for 4 pages of....this is another one of those great troll threads right?
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I did hear that they are going to start a cap and ball division for uspsa. Mostly steel targets, similar to cowboy action shoots. Has anyone heard about holster placement in relation to powder bag and balls. This division could be a great throw back division. But like dead coyote said , bear grease or other natural grease like this are going to be a hot commodity.
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Re: Hydraulic lock of diesel Engine (OR Hydraulic FOR SHORT, WHICH IS WHAT I SAID, PLEASE TAKE FOOT OUT OF MOUTH) https://forums.cat.com/t5/Maintenanc...gine/td-p/2659 Maybe Caterpillar corporation doesn't know what they are talking about either. Last edited by uparmor; 12-07-2016 at 12:52 PM.. |
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Not my fault you continue to do so...
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You errantly used poor wording either for lack of understanding or for laziness, either way, you appeared ignorant of the very subject of which you were speaking as a result. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe hydraulic is a verb somewhere. Let us consult that good old fashioned source of wisdom Webster's Dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict..._source=jsonld Definition of hydraulic 1 : operated, moved, or effected by means of water 2 a : of or relating to hydraulics <hydraulic engineer> b : of or relating to water or other liquid in motion <hydraulic erosion> 3 : operated by the resistance offered or the pressure transmitted when a quantity of liquid (as water or oil) is forced through a comparatively small orifice or through a tube <hydraulic brakes> 4 : hardening or setting under water <hydraulic cement> hydraulically play \-li-k(ə-)lē\ adverb Nope, still an adjective, perhaps the Oxford English Dictionary has what you're looking for? https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/hydraulic Nope, adjective there too. Perhaps you speak of it in a more colloquial manner? Let's check urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...=search-action There is a verb form of the word 'hydraulic' there, but it's in reference to drinking, and not in reference to hydraulically locking a system. Sooooo, about that 'foot in mouth' syndrome you were referring too...
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Maybe, but I hate hammer fired guns, prefer striker fired all day.
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Maybe you should just stick to revolvers if you want a gun that will work when you throw it in the mud...or wait, they may fail in that environment too. Normally, I ignore these stupid posts. With the number of striker fired guns out there and the decades of reliable service records your question is ridiculous. It's not like asking "Hey, I heard a Honda had a transmission that failed once when the owner drained all the fluid out and drove it down the highway. Should I buy a Toyota instead?" That would be a more intelligent conclusion than you are trying to make. No, your question is more like, "Hey, I heard Honda had a transmission that failed once when the owner drained all the fuild out and drove it down the highway. Should I drive a a horse and buggy because horses don't have transmission?" Seriously, if you aren't comfortable with striker fired guns don't buy them. FWIW, I own striker fired guns and non-striker fired guns and enjoy shooting all of them. These dumb, loaded questions are scourge of every open forum out there! They change nobody's opinion on anything and spark no constructive conversation either. |
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Not all striker-fired handguns require a trigger pull for disassembly. The Sig P320, for example, requires you to drop the mag, lock the slide back, and then flip a lever on the side of the frame.
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