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Plus you can run (for practice) .40 in a stock Glock 20 or Glock 29 if desired.
(If money for Ammo is an issue) Bob
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If you look at the FBI data on people being shot and the death rate, there is a revaluation of the .40/ .45
There is no difference in stopping power between the 9/.40 and .45 acp The only measurable difference in humans that were shot was shot placement. So many law enforcement agencies have started switching to the 9mm Cheaper ammo More ammo per magazine Lower recoil (Lower recoil seems to reduce flinch so training / quals are faster) Here is a sight that shows bullet speed by the inch http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html The full power 10mm is an awesome round.... I am not sure that for the increased recoil / slower follow up shot, the extra power is worth it for a CHL firearm.
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I agree with this thinking as I'd rather stick with 40 or 45 for defense against 2 legged animals. Not my intention to slam the 9mm as I have standbys in that caliber also. For someone who lives in bear & cougar areas the 10mm is a good choice, but I'll hate to shoot the G29 with real 10mm loads. Plus 10mm ammo is not cheap.
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This is the exit cavity on the passenger side in an 80s Chevy Sedan. Shot was fired from 5 feet from the drivers door. Round went through both doors completely and dented the milvan 15 feet behind it. Left is some 180gr JHP (?Brand?) a buddy had in his Wilson 10mm Right is my 200gr Nosler JHP DoubleTap out of my G29 Load is everything
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If you where near Elk Grove/Sac... Their indoor range has a 29sf or where I'm at Fresno, one of the LGS that comes to the gun show has a 29 Also but I know it's too far from where you're at. The 29 is about the length of 19/23 and you won't be disappointment at all. If you get it and has to much recoil get yourself a heaver spring like 20lbs and up and you're good to go. That's the most of aftermarket parts you can do for the model 29
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I also reload so i can take advantage of the 10mm. |
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Calguns has gotten pretty lame lately. Anyways Riflegear has g29s in stock time to time. I got mine there back in May. OC Outdoors can order them but I know distributer stock sometimes is limited.
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I am mulling over getting a HK PSk 2000 in 9 mm rather than the Glock now. After renting one ( range only had a 9mm even though I wanted to try a .40) I found it to be the best sub compact I have ever shot. I was maybe planning on carrying my wife's .40 Shield because I shoot it well, but I may sell it and get her a 9 Shield (she doesn't like the .40) and get the HK. They are on sale r now at Turners $50 off. I have been researching carefully and I have to believe the experts that when it comes to stopping human beings, a Speer Gold Dot 9mm ( what I have in my Beretta Storm) or equivalent is just as effective as larger calibers.
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In the final months of SSE 1.0 I bought both a G29 and a G30. I wanted the gen 4 because I am a lefty and I figured I could always sell either if I did not like them. I put a 21 lb recoil spring in the G29 and it is easier for me to shoot accurately than the G30.
I purchase the G29 because I had plans to take a trip to Glacier and do some hiking. I did that this past summer. It concealed reasonably well under the shirts I wear while hiking with the holster I was using. When I learned I could also run .40 cal through it with no other modifications, it became even more useful for me. I have the option of keeping a couple of mags loaded with .40 cal for when I am more concerned with two-legged creatures and then when I go out to the woods and change over to the 10 mm mags. I have some arthritis in my hands and I find the G29 with the 21 lb spring much less painful to shoot than the G30. With regular practice, my follow up shots are nearly as fast and just as accurate as they are with my G17 when I use normal factory 10 mm loads or .40 cal. As always, YMMV. It all comes down to personal choice and what works best for you.
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Sounds like BS to me. Follow up shots? After being hit with hot 10mm load? Waste of ammo (-: Increased recoil blast and no increase in stopping power? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I been reading everyone replied and all I can say is that, Op just want to know if the model 29 from glock is still on roster and yes I did, do a replied to this forum too but seen most people are arguing about you don't need the 10mm rds for HD and stick with the common calibers. But than you have to look at this we're in the America where we have Bill of Rights and to this we can get what we desire to get. The guys who said don't get a 10mm or 10mm ammo is to expensive to buy or to shoot. Are the guys that never have shot a 10mm or maybe Just shot one in their lifetime. All I can say is if you can afford things like a 10mm and have a good variety of 10mm ammunition in their ammo can than said no more
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I'm no Miculek for sure, but for some strange reason I tend to shoot better with heavier recoiling rounds within their respective classes. My first 10mm was a Colt in '87 and I noticed faster cycling times over the 45. I think that actually helped.
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As a side note, my .357 magnum TRR8 has more snappy recoil than my Glock
29. Reload so you can practice, practice, practice. Bob
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May the Bridges I burn light the way. Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain. Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728). |
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And plenty of other listings here. https://www.ammograb.com/10mm-auto/ The Armscor stuff is pretty hot too. I chronographed the 180s at over 1200 fps out of my G20. |
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Several links were posted to various dealers with them in stock, including one within 15 miles of him.
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You should talk with the guys behind the counter of a brick and mortar. I asked my local gun store about a P226 in 357 Sig and was told they don't/won't stock them. They said their isn't a big demand for them. I guess a 9MM Glock will move off the shelf faster than a 10 MM.
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Ditto. I've proven to myself that movement of the slide dampens recoil by a noticeable amount when I shot my 3" unfluted 610 in the same session as my 1006.
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I just wanted to pop in here really quick to say I trust a Glock 29 with my life every single day. It's what I CCW 99% of the time. With Underwood Extreme Defender rounds, I'm confident that a good shot or two should end pretty much any threat from a rabid squirrel to an angry grizzly, and everything in between. As a bonus, it's a lot of fun to shoot, manages the recoil of 800ft/lb rounds stupidly well considering its size, and reliable enough that, like I said, I trust my life to it.
All that said, 3 years ago when I bought mine, my LGS had several in stock. I doubt they are losing popularity, if anything it's the contrary and LGS's are having a hard time keeping them in stock. Some LGS's intentionally choose not to carry 10mm anything for some reason - I choose not to associate with such blasphemy When you get your G29, look into a different recoil spring though. The stock spring is the same one used in the .45acp baby-glocks, and just doesn't cut it for full-power 10mm ammo, although it works fine for everyday off-the-shelf 10mm. I put a 21lb spring in my G29 and never looked back - it even still cycles cheap 10mm ammo, which was a pleasant surprise. 19lb is probably good too, but the factory 16lb is way too weak for full-power ammo. My slide was literally battering into my frame and the slide was jamming in the rearward position - not ok. Anyways, enjoy, you'll love it!
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Been a few threads on CG about freedomunitions reloads blowing up some barrels. I can't say one way or the other, I don't shoot them myself, but I have definitely seen the threads. But LAX has those threads too, and I fire LAX reloads all the time without issue, so take it for what it's worth.
wholesale 10mm reloads are pretty weak though, usually in the 350ft/lb range, same as 40s&w. Probably better for the wallet to just buy 40s&w at that point. These G29's crave full-power ammo!
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Just want to reiterate again for anyone who doesn't know. You can safely and regularly fire 40SW out of your stock 10mm glock. If you are going to buy weak 10mm ammo, just buy 40SW ammo. Cheaper and easier to come by.
I have a G20 with a lone wolf 10mm barrel (for full chamber support) and a heavy recoil spring. Even with that setup, I can run 40SW without any issues. I reload both 10mm and 40SW and take full advantage of the caliber, but sometimes don't feel like blasting hundreds of rounds of 10mm. For me, that's where 40SW comes in. Also interesting to throw in a mixed mag of 40s and 10s. Catch yourself flinching/anticipating... |
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One of my local gun stores had a G29 a few years ago. I haven't looks at them lately.
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More than 5 in stock at Riflegear: http://www.riflegear.com/p-3762-glock-29sf.aspx
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Some people just can't handle a 10mm, or think they can't even though they have never shot one. Too bad, their loss.
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Most who try the 10mm first time become positive. If they had negative thoughts before it gets erased.
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Going from my G20 (big brother to the G29) to my Sig P226 9mm is only slightly different than going from the 9mm to a .22lr.
When I shoot the G20 I shoot perhaps 3-4 mags. My hands get too torn up. Granted, I'm shooting hot Underwood ammo .... |
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Once you go 10 You'll cluck like a hen? Write with a pen? Be honored by men!! That's it 10MM rocks!!!
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