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Light up my G19
I tried searching in the light section, but it doesn't seem like that part of the forum gets any traffic so I'll post here. I recently won a G19 through a raffle (thank you Gunfighter Tactical in Miramar, CA), and unexpectedly, I've got the butterflies for it, which is odd because I am a huge 1911 guy. But to the point. My birthday is coming up and I always treat myself with a little present every year. I would like a weapon light for the G19.
I know, I know... google is your friend, do research, blah blah blah. And I did. I've narrowed it down to 3 different lights I'm also thinking I might want a laser too but not sure about that yet. I narrowed it down to these three because I want them compact and don't like the look of the protruding lights (streamlight & inforce) Help me choose one, and why: 1) Surefire XC1 2) Crimson Trace Rail Master PRO 3) Viridian C5L Thanks in advance! Last edited by soulbyte; 12-05-2016 at 8:07 PM.. Reason: Post up you Weapon Lights and Lasers |
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If money is no object I would go XC1. Quality and performance is better than anything out there and it fits the weapon nicely.
My preference is the Inforce APL. I really like the way they look in Glocks.. but aside from that nonsense I've had really good luck with them and think they are a great light that is bright and reliable.
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The Crimson Trace is "only" 100 lumens. The Viridian, I believe, is a green laser, so you would pay for the laser in order to get the light. I'd pick the Surefire, but Streamlight is good, too. I had a Streamlight XL-1 which got stolen. I'll take a hard look at the Surefire and the newest compact Streamlight.
I keep a Sig P229 in the nightstand and really like having a light on it. Gotta replace the stolen one.
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Between those three, XC1 hands down. $210ish on the B.H. Photo site.
Although in my opinion for actual use, an x300 is brighter and better for extreme close quarters ccw type shooting (creates a small gap for the muzzle -- whatever that term is called) while being cheaper than an XC1. |
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You could always buy one of those laser guide rods. Seem pricey though.
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I've been playing with an XC1 on my Glock 19. It's been pretty solid so far and Surefire products have never disappointed me. I have a couple of X300s on some other guns with DG switches along with a TLR-1 with a remote switch. I just like having remote switches on my gun mounted lights. However with the XC1 (which does not have a remote switch option) I've found that the light is easy to operate with my support side thumb or my trigger finger with no issues.
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Any user comments on the Streamlight TLR-3, which is their most compact light? (Yes, I've read some of the internet chatter about the mount breaking, but many say that is due to overtightening of it. The company recommends just using a coin to tighten but not over tighten. )
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The TLR-3 could be as well-built as the TLR-1 and do quite well in the real-world, but my spidey-sense says it won't.
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I know you said no protruding lights but I still recommend the Streamlight TLR-1 HL. 800 lumens for $120. It is so bright it will melt a home invader and you won't even have to pull the trigger. I own two and put them through seriously regular abuse with never a single issue. I refuse to purchase overpriced surefire products when streamlight offers a superior product for less money. They're also local to San Diego. I've actually never had an issue ever over my 10 years of using streamlights. All of them still work like new.
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i guess ill be the lone guy preferring the viridian c5l. its not as flush as the xc1 but then again i dont carry the c5l, i use it as my bedside gun. anything brighter than 100 lumens in the dead of night is overkill imo.
im looking to simply identify my target and with the laser/light combo i can sufficiently identify and put rounds on a target in my home. |
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But yes if you are on a budget, the TLR series will serve you well. But I can honestly say I chose the TLR-1 for price at the time and wound up spending more money just buying Surefire products later on. |
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I know its not on your List but i have a Tlr1s and Ive left it on my G19 since i bought it. They are durable and bright and take a beating. When i got to range i leave it on as well, not sure if others take theirs off but i leave it in no matter what. And i bought mine used years ago. Best light i think.
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I chose the XC1 for my G19 because it has the smallest profile, which makes it perfect for ccw. I also like that it runs on a common AAA battery.
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i have a tlr3 on my nightstand gun sig sp2022 and on a compact p320. haven't had any problems with them and although may not be the brightest feel it's sufficient for my use. |
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Something else to consider for a weapon light is blinding oneself when you turn it on. If I turned on my Streamlight TLR1 (not HL) in the middle of the night after I just stumbled out of bed, the light reflecting off the wall would blind the **** out of me. I would suggest turning on any light you use when your eyes are totally adjusted to the dark. Just to see how it affects your vision at varying distances and surfaces. That's why I'm not too concerned about having the very highest light output possible. Leave the light unattached on your night stand and use it to find the bathroom one night. It's an eye opening experience. Pun intended. I also have a good handheld light so I don't have to wave a gun around to identify anything. |
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I have the XC-1 and though it looks good the controls are kind of weird. The temporary need a little more force than I like, and the always on is on the wrong side (for a lefty like me). It sits on my 19 still since it's my girlfriend's beside anyway and she's right handed.
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WOW! Thanks for all the input guys. To be completely honest. I run the trl-1 on a my 1911 and love it. I like the tr-1 and believe the HL version is the best bang for the buck. I've tried the trl1 and like the look. That being said the main reason for the three choices above is for carry. I want the smallest package possible, that, and I already carry a 1100 lumen Thrunite TN12 with me at night. That thing lights up way past 100 yards easy.
I did end up purchasing the Surefire last night for around $230 shipped. I expect it to be delivered tomorrow as I went with expedited shipping. The tipping factors for me was mainly size, the AAA battery, and the flood of light it produces rather than hot spot. I am however experiencing a little buyers remorse as I'm not really sure the price tag is justified. I guess we will see. I really appreciate all the input. I know at one point or another others will be looking for the same info. I would like to keep this thread going. Please post up pictures of your weapon lights and a brief description on why you chose it. It will also help others with the same gun to see how that particular light fits. I know there are other threads out there explaining the same but I didn't find one on Calguns. Last edited by soulbyte; 12-05-2016 at 8:08 PM.. |
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First off, congrats on your glock 19. You will like it despite being a 1911 guy. Secondly, if its worth anything these days, i work for a police department and i prefer the surefire for a weapon light. I carry a glock 21sf on duty but the light i choose to use is a surefire. Yes the TRL is less expensive, but i find the surefire light to a better overall light. I think you made a good decision and you definitely will not regret it. I carry my glock 19 off duty and it is by far my most versatile handgun.
Just FYI, i find mine is the most accurate with 124 grain JHP. It does well with 115 and the 147 grainers, but for some reason i get just a hair better accuracy from 124 grains. |
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Thanks for easing my mind over the XC1 purchase. If it's tested well with the boys in blue, it's definitely good enough for me. Also, thanks for the ammo tip. I shoot 124 grain for competition so I have a bunch laying around, maybe a box or two of 147 and a bunch of 115 also. I'll bring all three to range with me this weekend. But I do agree that I've had most success with 124 in all of my 9mm's. Last edited by soulbyte; 12-05-2016 at 8:39 PM.. |
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Haha, looks good with the extended base plate. Plans for more mods? |
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I would like to get a vortex viper on it and I think that might be it. Want to use it for carry optics division and maybe some fun club shoots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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