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Old 09-20-2016, 8:11 PM
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Default Sig MPX-P: to convert or not convert?

I am very fortunate to have a Sig MPX pistol, and it is one of my favorite firearms ever. I would someday like to pass this on to my son, but with the new CA laws it looks like I will either have to register it as an AW, or convert to carbine with BB 2.0 or featureless carbine.

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Old 09-20-2016, 8:17 PM
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I think if you want him to have it and register it it has to be in his name and registered in his name otherwise it dies with you. I could be mistaken I'm sure others will chime in.
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If you want to pass it to your son, correct me if im wrong, but you can deregister it and give it to him (convert to featureless)... Just make sure you know the exact date youre going to kick the bucket.
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If you want to pass it to your son, correct me if im wrong, but you can deregister it and give it to him (convert to featureless)... Just make sure you know the exact date youre going to kick the bucket.
This makes sense... register now and use as intended for the rest of my life, and convert to featureless if that is even possible in 40 yrs from now. Plasma guns will be all the rage by then anyways.
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How old is your son now? If he will be 18 or more by 12/31/2017, you may be able to register it under his name and yours.
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Old 09-20-2016, 8:53 PM
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What if underage?
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How old is your son now? If he will be 18 or more by 12/31/2017, you may be able to register it under his name and yours.
How does that work? I thought once SB880 takes effect, an assault weapon can only be registered to a single person?
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How does that work? I thought once SB880 takes effect, an assault weapon can only be registered to a single person?
The current laws provide for co-registration of RAWs to two or more members of the same household. I don't think SB-880 changes that, does it?

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201520160SB880
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He's going to be 2 so no registering for him
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He's going to be 2 so no registering for him
In 16 years, pick out a college out of state, be sure he pays his own way for at least one year(loans) and for the year don't claim him as an exemption on your income tax. Make him get a local Driver's License, bank locally where he is, let him register his car and register to vote there. Then, the following year, he'll decide to buy his own MPX-P out of your generous pocket money. After that, he can move back into the state
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Old 09-21-2016, 7:55 AM
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I know very little of CA gun laws and less about trust laws, so hopefully someone with more knowledge chimes in; would a gun trust work for you?
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Old 09-21-2016, 8:29 AM
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It's a pistol. You have to register it. You can't pass it down
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Move out of state!
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:24 AM
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In 16 years, pick out a college out of state, be sure he pays his own way for at least one year(loans) and for the year don't claim him as an exemption on your income tax. Make him get a local Driver's License, bank locally where he is, let him register his car and register to vote there. Then, the following year, he'll decide to buy his own MPX-P out of your generous pocket money. After that, he can move back into the state
Love this response! I hope he doesn't fall far from the tree/home but whatever it takes to be successful and happy.
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This makes sense... register now and use as intended for the rest of my life, and convert to featureless if that is even possible in 40 yrs from now. Plasma guns will be all the rage by then anyways.
Can't make it featureless as a handgun. The magwell is a feature.
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Can't make it featureless as a handgun. The magwell is a feature.
But can a handgun be converted to a carbine and then be made featureless?
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But can a handgun be converted to a carbine and then be made featureless?
Yes! But it's a one way trip unlike in the USA.



As long as you are in the immediate vicinity, you can let little McStuffins shoot your registered MPX pistol, so you can register it comes 2017 and wait on the carbine conversion.
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The current laws provide for co-registration of RAWs to two or more members of the same household. I don't think SB-880 changes that, does it?

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201520160SB880
I think it's an uncertainty until we see the new registration form (same issue was brought up in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1222985). I'm certainly hoping it remains the case.
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If MPX left as pistol why does it have to be registered? Sorry if this is a silly ?


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If MPX left as pistol why does it have to be registered? Sorry if this is a silly ?


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Any pistol with a non-fixed magazine well outside of the grip is automatically an assault weapon. Up until the new law, bullet buttons could be used to make the external mag well "fixed" but as you know that will no longer fly. Unless you find a way to move the magazine well into the grip (lol) the pistol will need to be registered as an AW

Or you could turn it into a carbine with a fixed stock and 16" barrel, overall length of 30", and grip-wrap the pistol grip to make it featureless.


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Where can you get the carbine barrel/upper for the conversion?
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Any pistol with a non-fixed magazine well outside of the grip is automatically an assault weapon. Up until the new law, bullet buttons could be used to make the external mag well "fixed" but as you know that will no longer fly. Unless you find a way to move the magazine well into the grip (lol) the pistol will need to be registered as an AW

Or you could turn it into a carbine with a fixed stock and 16" barrel, overall length of 30", and grip-wrap the pistol grip to make it featureless.


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Where can you get the carbine barrel/upper for the conversion?


Hard to find right now. Supposedly Sig will be selling barrels / caliber conversion kits that would work but they are behind schedule as usual. Same with uppers. Maybe give Sig a call and get more up to date info?


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In 16 years, pick out a college out of state, be sure he pays his own way for at least one year(loans) and for the year don't claim him as an exemption on your income tax. Make him get a local Driver's License, bank locally where he is, let him register his car and register to vote there. Then, the following year, he'll decide to buy his own MPX-P out of your generous pocket money. After that, he can move back into the state
Won't work since his problem is not the roster, but the AW statute. If it's an AW configuration and not registered, no soup for him.
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Move out of state!
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Any pistol with a non-fixed magazine well outside of the grip is automatically an assault weapon. Up until the new law, bullet buttons could be used to make the external mag well "fixed" but as you know that will no longer fly. Unless you find a way to move the magazine well into the grip (lol) the pistol will need to be registered as an AW

Or you could turn it into a carbine with a fixed stock and 16" barrel, overall length of 30", and grip-wrap the pistol grip to make it featureless.


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Wouldn't bb2.0 work to make it so he didn't need to register?
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Wouldn't bb2.0 work to make it so he didn't need to register?
AFAIK...
The ARMagLock and Patriot Mag Lock (BB Reloaded) are not compatible with the SIG MPX, due to dimensionally differences in the receivers.
No one is currently offering a new magazine locking mechanism for the SIG MPX that will comply with the new fixed magazine definition.
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Won't work since his problem is not the roster, but the AW statute. If it's an AW configuration and not registered, no soup for him.
The above is true. I didn't think of the AW issue.

He either stays out of state (not a bad option, given how deep blue the state is and our current tax situation), or hope the featureless option remains an option in 16 years (which I sincerely doubt.)

I missed my chance to freedom in the 1990's when I decided to move back to CA to start this career. My brothers, who decided to move to MO and TX, are much better off.

I myself am hoping my daughter would find a good job in a free state (not NY, NJ, CT or CO) so I can move closer to her upon retirement. To remain in the state as a taxpayer is a losing proposition. It's nirvana for those getting freebies from the .gov though.
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Does the sig mpx have a flash suppressor or muzzle break ???
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Convince you son to leave this god forsaken state the second he is old enough to venture out on his own!!!!

Also don't assume you kid will like guns.
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Where can you get the carbine barrel/upper for the conversion?
This won't get you what you need. The barrel is not 16" by itself. The barrel with the pin/welded flash suppressor is 16". No one makes a muzzle brake for it.
See this thread here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1279386
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Get a barrel extension/ fake can- Gio @ Honeybadger did mine....

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I would like to find either a replacement Sig MPX pistol barrel to add a >16 pin/weld muzzle device or a 16-in barrel outright (which Sig has not yet produced as a part).
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I would like to find either a replacement Sig MPX pistol barrel to add a >16 pin/weld muzzle device or a 16-in barrel outright (which Sig has not yet produced as a part).
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7&postcount=20
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