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Old 09-19-2019, 10:58 PM
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Anyone have one? Been wanting one for a long time...finally gonna bite the bullet.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:05 PM
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I’ve got a PTR and it’s great! Heard the Century ones had reliability issues. Maybe those have been resolved?
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:14 PM
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PTR is close enough in price it's worth saving up a little more and getting a much better product.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:20 PM
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I’ve got a PTR and it’s great! Heard the Century ones had reliability issues. Maybe those have been resolved?
They are still hit or miss.

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Not a C308, but I have a PTR 32 and it is outstanding.
Gotta love the rollerlocks!
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There's a guy in the Marketplace that's been trying to sell his off for $500, still not sold after several months. That should be a good indicator.
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Old 09-20-2019, 7:45 PM
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There are dozens of century arms g3 clones at our local gun shows, gun store used isles and pawn shops etc for a reason. Save up and get a PTR. It’s as close as you’ll get to an HK91. I’ve owned an Hk91 and currently own a PTR91 GI and it is perfect. Bolt gap was spot on when new and still is after many many rounds. Welds are perfect. Fit finish and function are perfect.


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The Century Arms C308 is not really a G3/HK91 clone.
It's a CETME Model C parts kit on a US made HK91 style reciever.
They did so that it can use the less expensive G3 magazines, instead of the more expensive CETME magazines.
So, it's essentially a bastardized CETME/HK91 rifle.
The reliability issues mostly come from forcing/modifying the non-compatible parts to work together.
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:59 AM
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The Century Arms C308 is not really a G3/HK91 clone.
It's a CETME Model C parts kit on a US made HK91 style reciever.
They did so that it can use the less expensive G3 magazines, instead of the more expensive CETME magazines.
So, it's essentially a bastardized CETME/HK91 rifle.
The reliability issues mostly come from forcing/modifying the non-compatible parts to work together.


That and complete substandard assemblage of the kits including grinding bolts to get a “false” proper bolt gap. Total bs and a misunderstanding of how roller lock guns work which can lead to a dangerous gun to fire after they wear in a bit.

PTR has had its share of F-ups along the way admittedly. From too tight of chambers to too shallow and too few chamber flutes.
Those issues have been fleshed out years ago and PTR is making a very fine reliable rifle. They never did stupid stuff like grind bolts to get a bolt gap that can result in a dangerous gun. They just had early guns that wouldn’t run well or at all on certain ammo.


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I have a PTR and love it. Worth every dollar one will cost you.
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I have an early PTR when they were still using some surplus HK parts. The whole bolt barrier group is real HK
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I have an early PTR when they were still using some surplus HK parts. The whole bolt barrier group is real HK


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PTR is close enough in price it's worth saving up a little more and getting a much better product.
How close?
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How close?
From the $900s on up...

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From the $900s on up...



https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/taxons/ptr-industries



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Talking about 300 to 400....could use that for ammo
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C’mon guys. I thought everyone owned at least one gun from Century.
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C’mon guys. I thought everyone owned at least one gun from Century.
I have yet to have one lol
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I have a PTR91 GI-R in FDE. It’s a great hk style clone that’s reliable and fun to shoot. It’s a big mo’ f’er but it doesn’t feel that way as far as maneuverability goes. It’s not my 14.5 colt of course but for a 308 battle rifle, it’s pretty maneuverable. I would not go with a c308. I see people all the time post them on here for 800 bucks and 4 months later they’re willing to take 400 and it’s still not sold. That should definitely show you the name the c308 has in the firearms community. If people are passing up a 400 dollar semi auto 308 rifle (especially with dems so quick to try and ban anything that isn’t a musket), there must be something wrong with the rifle. Look how fast PTRs sell on the forums. Pretty quick

The PTR91 is tried and true and most ppl will back that up (except for the HK91 owners who think us PTR guys are the scabs of the earth!!). I have an HK91 that’s out of state and I can confirm that ptr did it right.
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C’mon guys. I thought everyone owned at least one gun from Century.
We do! Lol. WASRs
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Talking about 300 to 400....could use that for ammo
Well if you buy a c308 and 300 worth of ammo, and the c308 sucks butt like many of them do, then you gotta turn around and buy a ptr and then you’re wasting a lot more than a couple hundred bucks

Buy a Ptr91, buy some ammo, enjoy
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If it has a rail on it then it was built by PTR Industries. Should be just as reliable as the PTR's.
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I used to own a C308 and it was a pile of dog crap. Globby paint finish and worn out parts kit made for a rifle that couldn't be zeroed with iron sights and had a light primer strike every 9th or 10th round. Buy once, cry once. PTR really is THAT much better.
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If it has a rail on it then it was built by PTR Industries. Should be just as reliable as the PTR's.
It does have a rail
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That and complete substandard assemblage of the kits including grinding bolts to get a “false” proper bolt gap. Total bs and a misunderstanding of how roller lock guns work which can lead to a dangerous gun to fire after they wear in a bit.

PTR has had its share of F-ups along the way admittedly. From too tight of chambers to too shallow and too few chamber flutes.
Those issues have been fleshed out years ago and PTR is making a very fine reliable rifle. They never did stupid stuff like grind bolts to get a bolt gap that can result in a dangerous gun. They just had early guns that wouldn’t run well or at all on certain ammo.


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To be perfectly fair, those "problems" were actually features that performed as designed, but didn't fit the general wants of the public.

The original Precision Target Rifle-PTR was designed with a match chamber and barrel with 10 flutes that were shallower than milspec. These produced better accuracy, softer recoil, and less brass damage- however they were designed as target rifles to be used with clean match ammunition. They were never meant to run bulk ammo, especially not the tar sealed south african surplus.

After a few years of issues from customers using dirty cheap ammo, they went back to the original design with 11 deeper flutes and a looser chamber, so theres no issue unless you have a very early PTR, and even then its only a problem with cheap ammo- it can be a very accurate and fun gun as long as you pay the price for good ammo
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To be perfectly fair, those "problems" were actually features that performed as designed, but didn't fit the general wants of the public.



The original Precision Target Rifle-PTR was designed with a match chamber and barrel with 10 flutes that were shallower than milspec. These produced better accuracy, softer recoil, and less brass damage- however they were designed as target rifles to be used with clean match ammunition. They were never meant to run bulk ammo, especially not the tar sealed south african surplus.



After a few years of issues from customers using dirty cheap ammo, they went back to the original design with 11 deeper flutes and a looser chamber, so theres no issue unless you have a very early PTR, and even then its only a problem with cheap ammo- it can be a very accurate and fun gun as long as you pay the price for good ammo


You are very correct and I should have stated such in my post. It was even advertised as a more precise version and they included a list of acceptable ammo for these guns when you bought one. Me like many other HK91 owners wanted a gun that ran like a 91 on milsurp ammo. I ended up selling my original ptr because of that, and have since replaced it with a GI version that does run on milsurp. The originals were great guns and included many german parts and worked perfectly if used with the recommended ammunition. Thank you for the correction for historical accuracy.



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I don't have a Century, but I do have an SAR 8, the Greek HK 91, and it's the bomb. I've only ran early '70s Indian NATO in it, and it runs great. PAX
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I was wondering a voyager. But pricey. I figure a c308 is God enough to start me off. Just wondering what other owners would say

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