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Old 11-26-2019, 9:43 AM
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Default Any AICS mags Black Friday sales

Hello my fellow enthusiasts,

I just wanted to know if anyone here knows if thereís going to be a Black Friday sale on AICS metal mags 5rds, or 10rds? I know Magpul AICS are available, but Iíd like to have a couple metal AICS mags.

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Old 11-26-2019, 1:59 PM
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Brownells has them, and has 11% off code right now
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Old 11-26-2019, 2:35 PM
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Check to see if any of the site-wide or coupon code vendors on this list carry them. Brownells' code for 11% off that Bicky mentioned is "HAA."

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1573104
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Old 11-29-2019, 9:07 PM
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MDTtac.com has metal AICS for about $40 each.
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MDTtac.com has metal AICS for about $40 each.
Probably not AI brand mags.
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MDT has expanded its offering of both polymer and metal magazines. Check out our different MDT magazines selection for short action and long actions calibers with capacities of five, ten or twelve rounds depending on the model. MDT's magazines are AICS compatible to fit our MDT chassis systems and many more.
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Probably not AI brand mags.
How important is this?

And for those that want to risk buying non-branded, what do we need to expect? To have to do some fitting to make sure it drops free via gravity, and feed lip adjustment and polishing?

Or is there something fundamental that PRS shooters know that really requires branded mags for best performance?
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Old 12-12-2019, 9:20 AM
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How important is this?

And for those that want to risk buying non-branded, what do we need to expect? To have to do some fitting to make sure it drops free via gravity, and feed lip adjustment and polishing?

Or is there something fundamental that PRS shooters know that really requires branded mags for best performance?
It's only important if you require quality.
The people that understand that and would likely know how to adjust and fix magazines are usually the people that understand and don't need to fix them because they bought good ones to begin with.
The people that don't know or believe there is a difference are also usually the people that won't know how to fix them either.
They just ponder why one mag won't work as good as another.
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Some people have better luck with non-AI mags than AI mags. It depends on the gun.
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OTM has some 6715 338 CIP length mags for $78. $2 more then what brownells priced them for on their Black Friday sale.
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It's only important if you require quality.
The people that understand that and would likely know how to adjust and fix magazines are usually the people that understand and don't need to fix them because they bought good ones to begin with.
The people that don't know or believe there is a difference are also usually the people that won't know how to fix them either.
They just ponder why one mag won't work as good as another.
+1! Well put.

OP, just wondering..whatís your reason for this preference? I was on board with Magpul from the beginning. Actually never had a problem with the Gen1 Pmags(and I purchased some from one of the first batches available to the public!). I donít know why Magpul bent to the cry-babieís will over & over! It was was an instant no brainer for me when they came out with their AICS mags.

Is it the bit of extra OAL in reloading? I can load around 2.860Ē max in 6.5-08. I canít imagine itís for presumption of quality, or performance? And the Magpul mags are hands down the toughest!

Anyway.. just curious.
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Is it the bit of extra OAL in reloading? I can load around 2.860Ē max in 6.5-08. I canít imagine itís for presumption of quality, or performance? And the Magpul mags are hands down the toughest!
AI metal mags feed way slicker than any plastic lipped mags.
Plastic is sticky compared to metal.
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AI metal mags feed way slicker than any plastic lipped mags.
Plastic is sticky compared to metal.
I had this exact issue with pmags, and why I wonít run them. At one point I offered 2 free to any calgunner who showed up at my house to take them and got 0 takers (one nibbler).

It sounds stupid to write, but the ergo for a mag that falls free by gravity feels more imortant when on the firing line than it sounds when writing it on an internet forum.
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+1! Well put.
Avtually, I thought the opposite, but didn’t want to argue. There’s no detail. Just “the quality is better, and if you don’t buy them then you should feel bad about yourself”

I was hoping for something better, like maybe parallelism of non AI mags is worse, the tolerance of box size is worse, feed lips can be rough, I don’t know. Whatever aspect that really drives AICS mags to be better to be stated.

Why?

I recently bought three 338 CIP mags. 2x AICS brand, one OTM brand. ONE of the three mags has an issue with the sides bowing out when fully loaded and is hard to install because of it. It’s an AICS branded one. All three needed feed lips polished.

On the other hand, I bought two off-brand AICS mags for my short action RPR, and both needed exterior wall side polishing to drop free nicely. Now they are slick as snot and perform wonderfully. But didn’t work out of the box.

So I don’t see it in terms of actual measurable performance. I can fix diensional issues, but I don’t have a clue what to do about side wall bowing. And it’s an AICS brand mag that has the side wall bowing.
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Use fewer bullets.
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I had this exact issue with pmags, and why I wonít run them. At one point I offered 2 free to any calgunner who showed up at my house to take them and got 0 takers (one nibbler).

It sounds stupid to write, but the ergo for a mag that falls free by gravity feels more imortant when on the firing line than it sounds when writing it on an internet forum.
You still have the Magpul AICS mags? I'll take 'em! It feeds fine and smooth out of my BigHorn Origin mated with a KRG Bravo.
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:08 PM
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Not aics.
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Old 12-14-2019, 7:25 PM
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AI metal mags feed way slicker than any plastic lipped mags.
Plastic is sticky compared to metal.
I guess....but it’s only an issue if it’s an issue, if that makes sense? What I mean is I’ve run hundreds upon hundreds of ARs and have used Pmags exclusively since 2006. And I never had a problem.

I do understand what you mean. Yes, metal is slicker because the surfaces of the feed lips and case are harder, thus the sliding against each other has a lower coefficient of friction. (That was part of my class on TUNGSTEN(Carbide), and CONFUSION it causes to some!) J/K

No, I do agree..and yeah I do remember people complaining about Pmags right away. I just never had a problem. They have always functioned great, love the super toughness/impervious to moisture, chemicals, etc. And I just never really noticed them being “sticky”, to the point of it bothering me anyway. Same goes for my Pmag AICS mags from Magpul. They work outstanding for me.

But, that’s why there are different kinds & materials of mags. Because it’s OK to disagree and choose different products.
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AI metal mags feed way slicker than any plastic lipped mags.
Plastic is sticky compared to metal.
The plastic Tikka mags have the smoothest feeding I have experienced
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AI metal mags feed way slicker than any plastic lipped mags.
Plastic is sticky compared to metal.
I HATE loading my Glock Magpul mags for this reason.
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