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Old 04-07-2020, 12:52 PM
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Default Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive

Wouldn't surprise me. That's how they get their low numbers.

Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.

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Old 04-07-2020, 12:58 PM
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I'd note that the story may not be sufficiently sourced.

However, it is all too easy to believe that the Chinese government might do this kind of thing.


Oh, and BTW. . . It could be kind of a neat statistical trick as well.

If they did not die of Covid-19 but instead were burned to death - it's not a Covid-19 death.

And it doesn't really appear as a murder since it was directed by the government. And since it was not adjudicated it isn't an execution, either.

So statistically, they just disappear?
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They sell organs of the living. Incineration of the elderly while still alive would mean nothing to those sick people. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this story were true, and I actually expected over a month ago that they were doing this. They wanted to stop the virus, and it is hard to spread the virus if you are incinerated. Whether you are already dead doesn't matter.
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I don't believe it, way easier to deal with a dead person, why wouldn't they kill them first?
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China burn live old sick people, Democrats cut up live healthy babies.
By the way, The wuhan virus will not kill as many people this year as Planned parenthood has and will.
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They didn't tell the world about coronavirus either, until it was too late.

Unless they did it on purpose.
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Oh come on, there's a huge difference between China burning people alive, and not reporting illnesses or purposefully releasing a virus to harm their enemies.

China is asshoe, but no way would they burn people alive to cover up something that's already known, too messy.
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China doing China stuff, next!
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Wow, everything about Trump, the world virus numbers, and New York “victims” right in our own backyard is exaggerated fake news.....

But this is supposed to be accurate?


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That story is a long stretch.


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If TDS exists, does CDS also exist?
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Oh come on, there's a huge difference between China burning people alive, and not reporting illnesses or purposefully releasing a virus to harm their enemies.

China is asshoe, but no way would they burn people alive to cover up something that's already known, too messy.
They boil dogs alive, they torture them to make them taste better.

They lied about their dead. It's being reported it's in the tens of thousands. They tried to control it and couldn't.

Remember they ran over live people with tanks at Tiananmen Square.
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Good thing they're on the Human Rights commission. They might pull some really bad stuff if they didn't get that.
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By the way, The wuhan virus will not kill as many people this year as Planned parenthood has and will.
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I'd note that the story may not be sufficiently sourced.

However, it is all too easy to believe that the Chinese government might do this kind of thing.


Oh, and BTW. . . It could be kind of a neat statistical trick as well.

If they did not die of Covid-19 but instead were burned to death - it's not a Covid-19 death.

And it doesn't really appear as a murder since it was directed by the government. And since it was not adjudicated it isn't an execution, either.

So statistically, they just disappear?
That sounds like something a bunch of lawyers would come up with.. The Chinese would just flip the bird and say whatever they wanted.
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I don't believe it, way easier to deal with a dead person, why wouldn't they kill them first?
It might be a little difficult for them to get your typical medical person to kill them. But if you have thugs who are going through and simply taking those who appear too feeble then it isn't as hard on their vital medical personnel.

Also, if they were going to use drugs or similar to kill them - they they are using up supplies.

If they shoot them, you've a big mess to clean up.

If they are already very feeble then they aren't going to put up much of a fight when you extubate them and slide them into a body bag so that a bigwig can have their ventilator.

Also, there would likely be a longer delay arranging for a euthanasia than simply putting them in a bag.


If this is really happening you can bet that some bigwig commie has given directives that there can only be a certain number of deaths due to Covid-19. Only certain amounts of certain drugs can be used. Certain people get priority for treatment (and remember their social scoring system?). Etc.

Oh, and medical people get proficient at changing the way statistics look - even in this country. It happens all the time (and is not illegal or unethical).
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That sounds like something a bunch of lawyers would come up with.. The Chinese would just flip the bird and say whatever they wanted.
That depends on the level at which one is operating.

Ghost cities are one example of how distorted their society can be.

You can get dictates handed down which you must meet in order to keep your job and/or your life. So the data which goes up the chain of command is doctored and they have to make sure the data is not discordant with other data because someone may catch that.

This is also not unique to the Chinese government.

I remember when my unit got sent to Iraq (I did Afghanistan) an soldier was killed by a road bomb along with his HMMWV and the trailer. I was advised that our people accounted for so much stuff which had disappeared by indicating it was in that blown-up trailer that it would have had to be a semi-tractor trailer to hold all that stuff.

They had to account for the stuff somehow and stuff does disappear in a combat zone no matter how hard you try to keep it from happening.

So Supply Sergeants and others learn how to get around the system when the system is making unreasonable/impossible demands.

You can bet it is simply worse in China. Frank corruption is endemic from the highest levels to the lowest levels.
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They would have euthanized them first...
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You're missing the logic By burning them alive they don't have to report them as a Covid-19 death. They are now a burn victim.
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If TDS exists, does CDS also exist?
Let’s see, 40-million murdered Chinese in the last century just under Mao and hard to know how many since Mao the CCP has murdered...

I wouldn’t call it deranged to have reasonable caution or suspicion about the Chinese Communists nor their ambitions.
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Hmm, I’m guessing not true, but the lady seems convinced.

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If the Communist can run over protester's using a tank as in the Tiananmen Square murders, what makes you think they won't do this?
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My father and uncle along with numerous other marines who got together every year for the marine corp birthday and had fought in the Korean "conflict" always said ..." the cheapest commodity that china had was the human body".
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To avoid expending resources. They probably figure that the fire is gonna kill you inside of a couple minutes - so as a good citizen, you should prepare to make this tiny sacrifice.
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If true, it would be easy to carry out. Simply zip them up in a bag, and they suffocate. At first, the patient may flail a bit, but if multiple bags were stacked upon one another, it would be minimal. A bit of loud music could drown out the sound. They could handle hundreds or easily thousands this way. The bags could even be re-used multiple times. Final disposal could be either chemical or thermal.
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Bullsh*t. Truly fake news. It's Breitbart afterall.
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