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Old 06-11-2019, 1:38 PM
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Default Reloading 44 magnum

Need to get set up for a new caliber.
Any tips or recommendations for dies?
Iíll be using H110 for magnum rounds.
44 special favorites?

Dual ring Redding dies worth it or hokum?
Iím thinking single stage mostly. Maybe progressive for special- but not sure I need to load hundreds of cannon rounds at a time.

Not sure why Iím excited to add another caliber to my stack of dies. But I am!

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Old 06-11-2019, 6:25 PM
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I would just use RCBS dies.

For magnum powders may I suggest H110, 2400, Unique and IMR 4227.

For specials I would use H110, 2400, Unique, and IMR 4227.

It all depends on what you are going to do, and how hot you want your loads to be.


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Agree RCBS get the job done just fine used them for years before I went with Dillon 550B switched to Dillon dies.
Iím old fashioned 44 mag either Unique or Winchester 296, 44 Special Unique does everything I need.
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You might find this short piece a interesting read.


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You might find this short piece a interesting read.


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Have loaded the Keith 44 mag load of 22gr of 2400 for over 30 years. Yes with a 240gr Keith bullet
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You might find this short piece a interesting read.


http://www.sixguns.com/range/elmersloads.htm


. Very nice read indeed. May need his book.


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I use his load with my 265 gr Keith bullet in my Ruger RedHawk but reduce to 15 grains in the .44 Spl. It's my go to .44 spl load for lots of things. I switch to my 300 gr 44 mag loads in Grizzly country, gun of last resort for a bear fight.
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Hell I was there is a easy fun read.
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24.95 for hardcover on amazon. On its way!


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I hate cleaning lead out of revolver barrels... I would load with 2400 and keep cast loads to a slower speed to avoid the crazy cleaning....

Friends cast and used Gas Checs and turned up the velocity...

I have not yet tried powder coating but it seems like the 44 could benefit from that process
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Haven’t tried 2400, hard to find a year ago.

For magnum magnums, I like win 296.

Medium magnums, cfe pistol or universal.

Most pistol powders work in 44 spl, maybe even red dot.

In lever actions I’ve tried heavier rounds, cast 255gr-270gr, because of their length, a 44 spl case is the only way to run em’
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RCBS dies with the Lee Factory Crimp Die works for me... Single stage or progressive.. 10.5 grs of Unique and a 200 or 240 gr plated bullet is a light mag load... Fun to shoot ,, not punishing... I only use mag primers in my 44 mag loads,, no matter what powder is used... Cold weather performance-reliability my goal...
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Thinking about the die part of your question and I think I would use Redding dies and the Lee factory crimp die for any cartridge that needs a crimp. There are better dies for some applications but for general use I believe I see a higher quality more constant product in the Redding, I have seen first hand to many times issues with the later RCBS. Enough I wont buy any more of them unless there is no Redding available and I would rather wait a reasonable time for the Redding. One of the issues that seems to be a regular with RCBS is very rough necks, they scratch the necks so bad the dies have to be polished out, sometimes that takes to much metal out of the die.HTH
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I load 44mag using H110 and ACME coated 240gr Keith style bullets. I dont recall the exact load data but can get to it this evening. They are definitely on the MAGNUM end of the spectrum.

I also load 200gr bullets in magnum brass for my "44 special" loads. For this, I use a much lighter charge of bullseye. All with Dillon dies on a 550 press
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I've used RCBS and the Alliant powder products for years with great results. Low loads with Unique and heavy loads with Blue Dot. tons of fun and a lot of margin for great shooting.
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I'm another fan of Unique for 44 Special and H110/Win 296 for 44 Magnum.
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I only loaded Sierra 250 grain FPJ bullets with Winchester 296 powder. It worked good. Never loaded for 44 Special.
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Not a big unique fan. Will have to try a lb of 2400 sounds like.


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8.5gr of Unique is a nice all day plinking load in a 44 mag.
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Unique is versatile powder for the .44 Remington Magnum.
Every reloader I know has used it.
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22.5 gr h110 with a 240gr PC cast lead for 44 mag or 9gr unique for a plinker with less boom
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Old 06-13-2019, 6:36 PM
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Hornady custom dies come with a rebate for 100 bullets free right now btw. I love their dies too. $50 die set gets you a $30 box of bullets
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I’ll be using H110 for magnum rounds.
44 special favorites?
For low pressure target fodder I really like BE86. Not a lot of data for it but I just use Unique data. They're very close in burn rate and I'm shooting it out of a .44 Magnum revolver so...

Stuff burns really clean and meters well.

Full house magnums get H110 or 2400.
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Never considered be86. The metering and dirty burn are what I donít like about unique. Iíll look into this.


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I loaded Keith's load mainly when I used to shoot 44mag, with 240gr JHP. Worked great, even on 100m steel.

I switched over to H110 with good results. I found the recoil a little less snappy than with 2400. The H110 seemed to have more flame; at the time I was shooting a Desert Eagle with a Magna Ported barrel so it was easy to see.

H110 loads were as accurate as the 2400 loads on paper and on steel; buddy and I were shooting 100m off hand and consistently knock the chickens over.

My buddy shot the Keith load for years(with 240JHP). it worked equally well in the SW629 and Desert Eagle that he had at the time.
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I don't get too worked up about handgun dies, Lee have worked fine for my needs. But I'm also shooting for fun ringing steel, blowing up plastic water bottles, clays, and anything that seems like fun. Not shooting for points on paper, but I would take my loads hunting if the state allowed it.

Far as loads go, I made up a 300-400 big flame throwing 44mag rounds with 300mp (similar to H110/296) years ago and still have a couple hundred left and my kid will probably wonder what to do with them. I primarily shoot 8.5gr of Unique behind a 240ish in magnum cases. Kinda similar to the Skeeter load of 7.5gr Unique/240gr in a special case. Fun to shoot and probably be more than adequate for any serious work you might need.
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I splurged on a Redding die set on clearance. Figured that the cost of the dies will get so amortized over the years itís better to buy a nice set than to save a few bucks.

Hope to get the first rounds out this week.

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This is why I don't buy or recommend buying RCBC dies anymore. New unfired brass run through a RCBS sizer, this does not happen with any of my Redding dies and have never seen it in them anywhere before, quality control matters.

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Itís nice to have nice tools. I have Lee and rcbs and hornady dies and they are generally fine. But I got my first Redding dies a little while ago and they are nicer. Just feel better and seem to be higher quality.


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RCBS used to be darn fine stuff.
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... Iím thinking single stage mostly. Maybe progressive for special- but not sure I need to load hundreds of cannon rounds at a time.

Not sure why Iím excited to add another caliber to my stack of dies. But I am!

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That is what reloaders do. I keep buying firearms in different calibers so I have new projects on my Reloading Bench.

Today I do a Rockchucker and RCBS dies. 2400 and W296 was my Magnum load powder but today its mostly 44 Specials and Unique powder.
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Been using Lee dies for years for my Desert Eagle and never had an issue. Typically Load 240gr over AA#9 or H110.
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Today I do a Rockchucker and RCBS dies. 2400 and W296 was my Magnum load powder but today its mostly 44 Specials and Unique powder.


Ok - you busted me! I think thatís about half the reason I got the 44.


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This is why I don't buy or recommend buying RCBC dies anymore. New unfired brass run through a RCBS sizer, this does not happen with any of my Redding dies and have never seen it in them anywhere before, quality control matters.
That kind of scratching can happen if the brass galls and transfers in the die. Brass adheres to the steel surface, and as a smooth piece of brass is forced over it, it galls and leaves some brass behind. The result is the scratching on the necks (or body, if it's a straight walled case.)

You can clean it up by using a bore brush in a drill and some fine (1000 grit or higher) wet/dry sandpaper lubed with a bit of oil. Wrap the abrasive around the bore brush, lube with oil, and spin it for a bit in the neck area of the die. You can check to see if all brass is removed with either a borescope or checking if brass sizes without the scratches.
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Been using Lee dies for years for my Desert Eagle and never had an issue. Typically Load 240gr over AA#9 or H110.
Do you use Lee's factory crimp die? I'm just getting into reloading and was curious how much, if any crimp(just straighten the brass after expanding) is recommended for the 44mag DE. I will also be using 240gr with H110.

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I used to use RCBS dies when I had my 44 DE. I put a mild crimp on my 44 loads.

I like a crimp with the DE semi-auto action. The bullet wont come loose from recoil, but it could get bumped around coming out of the mag, up the ramp, and in to the chamber.

Try some lowlight shooting... the H110 makes a nice muzzle blast/flame!

I noticed H110 had more of a rolling recoil in the DE, whereas 2400 was a bit snappier.

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I just use the carbide Lee Deluxe die set that includes the factory crimp die. I also use Unique, W-231 and Titegroup for lighter .44 SPL loads. I have found the powder coated bullets works well, even out of a Rossi carbine and magnum loads.
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I don't use Lee FCD for the 44 mag. I probably turn in the Lee seating die maybe 1/4 turn for a crimp.

With that said, I picked up a lot of used reloading stuff that had some Lee FCD's in the lot: 40, 45, 308, etc. and have started using them and I really like them. I find it easier to seat with one die and then crimp with another, particularly when loading lead bullets. So if I found a good deal, I wouldn't hesitate to pick one up for the 44.
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