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Old 06-19-2019, 8:00 AM
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What’s the turn around time for renewal now that they do it online. I submitted my renewal in May and haven’t heard anything. My permit expires in mid July. I was waiting for the contingent renewal email before taking the 4 hour training class. Has something changed in the process?
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What’s the turn around time for renewal now that they do it online. I submitted my renewal in May and haven’t heard anything. My permit expires in mid July. I was waiting for the contingent renewal email before taking the 4 hour training class. Has something changed in the process?
Turned my renewal in on 4/23. Received request for more documents on 6/6. Nothing since. It's been 57 days.
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Turned my renewal in on 4/23. Received request for more documents on 6/6. Nothing since. It's been 57 days.
I turned mine in on 5/16. No word since except the acknowledgment and debit for the application. I turned everything in except the 4hr training.
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This is disappointing.
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Going back one to two years they have streamlined the process and eliminated the backlog, so apps were getting done in days or weeks, rather than months and months.

If your renewal date is coming up within two to four weeks, and your renewal was submitted at 90 days, and you've heard nothing, then it might be worth a phone call for a status. But generally they get them processed and done a couple of weeks prior to expiration. They issue your new card, tell you to destroy the old one once it expires.

If you utilize one of the online training options you can get your certificate within days, rather than waiting to book a class.
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What’s the turn around time for renewal now that they do it online. I submitted my renewal in May and haven’t heard anything. My permit expires in mid July. I was waiting for the contingent renewal email before taking the 4 hour training class. Has something changed in the process?
5/1 submitted, requested additional docs last week. I believe that now that someone is looking at my file and requesting docs, its being worked on and not sitting in a 'que'. So, maybe if I had all my docs in line I would have received a confirmation of pick up and would have it by now. Not sure though.
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They are suggesting 90 days prior now. I am almost 60 days in and had one request for additional paperwork. I am waiting for a contact from OCSD to schedule pickup. I Am expired a couple weeks now unfortunately. So they are back logged a bit now, new automated system and all. I will post again when I pickup.
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Submitted 4/23/2019, picked up 6/25. 9 weeks for me.
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5/1 to 6/25 - I had a week of supporting documents gathering and etc.
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5/1 to 6/25 - I had a week of supporting documents gathering and etc.
downdiver2, when was your permit going to expire?
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downdiver2, when was your permit going to expire?
uh, my permit expired on 5/30 - so I was without for 26 days. This was self inflicted as I didn't renew until 30 prior. That was my bad! It was training dates that held me up.
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Applied on 4/12 for renewal got approved on 6/6.

Still don't have a license though as I was traveling until last week and won't finish the training until next weekend.
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As long as you submit your renewal BEFORE the expiration date it's a 'renewal'. Up 'till the day of.
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As long as you submit your renewal BEFORE the expiration date it's a 'renewal'. Up 'till the day of.
Yes. Other than 16 hours of training vs 4, increased fees, and Livescan, is there a difference between a new issue and a renewal?
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I still haven’t heard anything from OCSD. permit expires in a couple weeks and I have done the training yet. Was waiting for the conditional approval.
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I submitted my renewal application with all the paperwork (including the renewal training class certificate) two days before you. I'm waiting, as well.

From what I gather from messages here, it's taking about 8 weeks to either get renewed or for them to ask for more documentation.

The eight-week mark for me is next week. I'll let you know what I hear (if anything). If you don't mind, please do the same.
Will do mag+1. Pretty lame that they won’t let you renew more than 3 months in advance. Then take two months to process.

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Old 07-08-2019, 2:17 PM
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Yes. Other than 16 hours of training vs 4, increased fees, and Livescan, is there a difference between a new issue and a renewal?
I think that's the difference. For most it would be the cost - IIRC there were fees associated with the livescan. I think training for new vs renewal is more as well.
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Old 07-08-2019, 4:56 PM
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If you are renewing no need for another Livescan.

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Old 07-15-2019, 6:48 AM
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Update on my renewal process...

5/6 - Submitted renewal application
7/1 - Request for additional docs supporting good cause
7/3 - Furnished requested docs
7/14 - CCW approved and picking up later today

All in all, was roughly 10 weeks.
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:04 AM
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Thanks for the update!

I submitted request for renewal and all paperwork on 5/21.
Expiration is 8/7
Have not heard a peep from OCSD
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Update on my renewal process...

5/6 - Submitted renewal application
7/1 - Request for additional docs supporting good cause
7/3 - Furnished requested docs
7/14 - CCW approved and picking up later today

All in all, was roughly 10 weeks.
What was your expiration date?
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Old 07-15-2019, 12:23 PM
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Did your GC statement change from your previous one?

If you don't mind me asking, what was the nature of the addition docs?
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Did your GC statement change from your previous one?

If you don't mind me asking, what was the nature of the addition docs?
I can’t answer for slixx, but at my last renewal in 2018, they asked me for a pay stub or W2. I had the same employer since 2008 and always just submitted a letter from employer. This was the first time they asked for additional proof of employment. So, in 2020, I will be sure to include a letter from employer and a pay stub.
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What was your expiration date?
5/31/2019 was my expiration date.

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Did your GC statement change from your previous one?

If you don't mind me asking, what was the nature of the addition docs?
Good cause stayed the same. They requested additional photos showing proof that I was where I said I went, throughout the year. I did however hear that ocsd was under budget and are running things a bit tighter over there incase they get audited. Not sure how true that is.

For those who are expired or going to expire, as long as you submit renewal app before your due date you’re fine.
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Recently, my OCSD CCW renewal took the detailed amount of time shown below. Everything (all necessary paperwork, including training doc) was all submitted at one time online in May.

Keep in mind that this timespan includes the 4th of July holiday period, where they may have taken an extra long weekend...
  • 2 months, 2 days
  • 9 weeks
  • 63 days
  • 1,512 hours
  • 90,720 minutes
  • 5,443,200 seconds
  • 17.26% of 2019
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Old 07-17-2019, 7:00 AM
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I sent an email to OCSD last week for a status update since I haven’t heard from them since my renewal app. They replied back that they are severely backlogged on CCW permits. I guess it’s just a wait and see now.
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There seems to be something that changed from january, when I renewed, and you guys that are renewing at this time of year.

I got my renewal in about 2 weeks. It would have been less if I got an earlier training class date. Now it seems renewals are taking over 2 mos for many people.

I wonder what has changed.
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I just got my conditional approval today. Now I need to signup for the renewal training.
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I just got my conditional approval today. Now I need to signup for the renewal training.
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There seems to be something that changed from january, when I renewed, and you guys that are renewing at this time of year.

I got my renewal in about 2 weeks. It would have been less if I got an earlier training class date. Now it seems renewals are taking over 2 mos for many people.

I wonder what has changed.
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Expired on 6/23/19

Sent my documents in 6/11/19

Figure I will hear from them within 90 days, oh well. Should have sent it in earlier.
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Is anyone willing to talk about my GC on the side in PM? I may have to change things up a little this year and am worried they won't approve if they are being more rigorous about the requirements being met and demonstrating that. I personally think I actually have a very very good case for GC and carrying, especially in today's climate considering the kind of profession I am in, but need some advice or insights from someone. Also, do you think OCSD would ever be open to talking to a renewal candidate about their GC? What I'd hate to do is apply and then get rejected even though in probably a year I'd be more likely to be accepted due to paper work, but since I have to renew now I'd risk getting a rejection on my record forever and my understanding is once you get a rejection it's basically over and that goes for other issuers as well. It's made me consider just not re-applying for renewal and having to start over again in the future in a year or so but I really really don't want to do that and just feel like if I talked to anyone with any sense that they would see the validity of my request.
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Is anyone willing to talk about my GC on the side in PM? I may have to change things up a little this year and am worried they won't approve if they are being more rigorous about the requirements being met and demonstrating that. I personally think I actually have a very very good case for GC and carrying, especially in today's climate considering the kind of profession I am in, but need some advice or insights from someone. Also, do you think OCSD would ever be open to talking to a renewal candidate about their GC? What I'd hate to do is apply and then get rejected even though in probably a year I'd be more likely to be accepted due to paper work, but since I have to renew now I'd risk getting a rejection on my record forever and my understanding is once you get a rejection it's basically over and that goes for other issuers as well. It's made me consider just not re-applying for renewal and having to start over again in the future in a year or so but I really really don't want to do that and just feel like if I talked to anyone with any sense that they would see the validity of my request.
I've looked at quite a number of them and helped flesh out content wording. There's a whole other thread that had actual copies of statements - mine included - might be worth at least reading through it.

Your GCS simply needs to explain where your busy life intersects with the threat of grave bodily injury or death. You can't shoot homeless people if you're scared of them, nor protect your 'stuff' - personal belongings. And it doesn't apply to your home cuz you already have the right to defend your home with a firearm.

OCSD requires that you are at least able to articulate this, statute requires it, verses simply 'at issue' for general self defense. Our statutes require that you show good cause to carry concealed. And you're right, with today's threat climate it isn't too hard, but simply a matter of identifying what and where and explaining how it applies to you and your loved ones.
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OCSD requires that you are at least able to articulate this, statute requires it, verses simply 'at issue' for general self defense. Our statutes require that you show good cause to carry concealed...
Misleading in that definition of the "good cause" is up to the IA not the statutes. Riverside county (and probably Kern) considers "self-defense" to be a good cause.
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I've looked at quite a number of them and helped flesh out content wording. There's a whole other thread that had actual copies of statements - mine included - might be worth at least reading through it.

Your GCS simply needs to explain where your busy life intersects with the threat of grave bodily injury or death. You can't shoot homeless people if you're scared of them, nor protect your 'stuff' - personal belongings. And it doesn't apply to your home cuz you already have the right to defend your home with a firearm.

OCSD requires that you are at least able to articulate this, statute requires it, verses simply 'at issue' for general self defense. Our statutes require that you show good cause to carry concealed. And you're right, with today's threat climate it isn't too hard, but simply a matter of identifying what and where and explaining how it applies to you and your loved ones.
Thank you for this detailed reply this is already helpful but if you would be willing to have a brief chat one on one I'd really appreciate it or if you know someone who can.
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Misleading in that definition of the "good cause" is up to the IA not the statutes. Riverside county (and probably Kern) considers "self-defense" to be a good cause.
Could well be. I had thought it was part of the CA statutes.

OCSD flip-flopped on Peruta - went back to requiring good cause. I had forgotten about that.

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2.2. "Good cause" for obtaining a CCW permit and the Peruta case

In the past, "good cause" has meant that you can show that:

a clear and present danger exists for you or your immediate family, and
carrying a concealed weapon would mitigate that danger.10

Traditionally, both the sheriff and police chief have maintained that carrying a concealed weapon is a privilege, not a right. You must, therefore, meet all their criteria before they will issue you this type of license.

This has been the case for each renewal application as well. Simply stating that "all conditions under which this CCW permit was originally issued remain the same" does not establish good cause.11 You must present evidence as to why this is the case.

The “good cause” requirement has been challenged in federal court, in a case called Peruta v. San Diego County. The plaintiffs in the Peruta case argued that the “good cause” requirement as it was administered by the sheriff of San Diego County was unconstitutional.

In San Diego County, concern for one's personal safety, by itself, was not enough to constitute “good cause.” Instead, an applicant for a permit had to show that s/he had a set of non-mainstream circumstances causing him or her to be placed in harm's way.12

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals initially found this requirement unconstitutional. In a 2014 ruling, the court declared that the Second Amendment right to bear firearms includes a right to carry firearms outside of one's home. According to the court in this case, San Diego's “good cause” requirement denies that right to most people—and thus violates the Second Amendment.13

But in June 2016 the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals reconsidered Peruta--this time sitting "en banc" with all the judges on the court involved. The full court ruled that the "good cause" requirement for a CCW permit was constitutional.14

The court's reasoning in its en banc ruling on Peruta is that the Second Amendment does not apply to concealed firearms.15 There is no Second Amendment right to carry a concealed weapon, and therefore regulations that limit one's ability to get a CCW permit do not violate the U.S. Constitution.16

It is possible that the Peruta ruling will be appealed to the Supreme Court of the United States. If this happens, then California's law on CCW licenses may be in doubt once again.
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These law enforcement agencies reserve almost exclusive authority to issue or deny California CCW licenses. The courts will not overturn their decision to deny someone a permit unless the decision is "arbitrary, capricious, or entirely lacking in evidentiary support."17
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Is anyone willing to talk about my GC on the side in PM? I may have to change things up a little this year and am worried they won't approve if they are being more rigorous about the requirements being met and demonstrating that. I personally think I actually have a very very good case for GC and carrying, especially in today's climate considering the kind of profession I am in, but need some advice or insights from someone. Also, do you think OCSD would ever be open to talking to a renewal candidate about their GC? What I'd hate to do is apply and then get rejected even though in probably a year I'd be more likely to be accepted due to paper work, but since I have to renew now I'd risk getting a rejection on my record forever and my understanding is once you get a rejection it's basically over and that goes for other issuers as well. It's made me consider just not re-applying for renewal and having to start over again in the future in a year or so but I really really don't want to do that and just feel like if I talked to anyone with any sense that they would see the validity of my request.
Yes, they are more stringent, but that doesn't equate to less being issued. Basically, by being more stringent - they are only backing up their files to ensure you provided as many documents as possible. But, no - they are not issuing less.

I believe I heard OC was issuing about 95% at this time. That 5% has to be background or document related (Cant support claims of why). My $.02 and Im not an expert.
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My renewal took 2 1/2 months. I sent in the application and did not wait for approval to take the class, so all docs were in within 1 1/2 weeks after the renewal app was sent. Did not hear anything from them till 2 was prior to my expiration date, and I did call for status update 3 was prior to expiration. Was told they were working on it and would get back to me soon.
Do not wait submit your docs 90 days prior then sit and wait and hope they get to you before expiration date.
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Old 08-12-2019, 1:51 PM
boomshaka boomshaka is offline
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Renewal Update:
Expiration 8/7/19

5/10 - Application submitted
5/21 - Training cert submitted
8/12 - Approval email - heading up in the morning to pick up new license.

Never got a request for additional documentation. Submitted virtually every document I could in hopes it would streamline my process.
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