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10-02-2010, 12:06 AM
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First amendment rights... Against Calgunners? WTF
As I've already explained to 69mach1 and to leelaw:
As a company or anything in general for that matter, can't take away a members first amendment... As a forum and marketplace, you understandingly allow people to post and view what is known as there right to freedom of speech. Example: Facebook can't tell people not to cuss, but instead the can take a single letter out of that one or more word(s) and replace it with a star sign. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law "respecting an establishment of religion", impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. the first: I explained a factual base a a sellers product and get a warning! Second time: I only said that I like it and bump... which is minimal... to say the least... I've warned both moderators that if they continue to take members rights away they will suffer the lawsuit consequences! 69mach1's answer: You do not have a first amendment right to free speech on this private site. follow the rules, or good bye. Leelaw's answer: Upon creation of your account, you agreed to abide by the terms of service of membership at Calguns.net. These terms include following all rules of the forums, including the Marketplace forum rules, as specified in the links which I have provided you twice now, and which are also posted at the top of each Marketplace forum for your convenience. You will follow the rules, or your account will be limited. I look forward to you reviewing this with your attorney, who will tell you that you have no case whatsoever for a Constitutional Amendment rights violation. I hope your attorney doesn't charge you too much for a remedial high school civics lesson. Cheers, Lee Leelaw also added: Frivolous lawsuits may incur expensive (for you) countersuits. You may wish to discuss that with your attorney as well. As to this conversation, we are done here, and so is your access. Regards, Lee _____ Tell me what you think!!! To Petition for the First Amendment Rights to this Website Please E-mail: Ogcsmn@ymail.com
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10-02-2010, 12:09 AM
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10-02-2010, 12:11 AM
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This is a private forum.
I own it, I set the rules, I allow access as I see fit. (Gee, I sound like ogre when I put it that way..) You do NOT have a first Amendment right in a private venue. Civics 101. Quote:
That specifies who this Amendment is restricting, Congress, which means the Government, not private citizens. Your 1st Amendment right to free speech is a guarantee against GOVERNMENT restriction of specific classes of speech and/or expression. Your 1st Amendment right to free speech does NOT afford you any protection in private venues such as someone's home or business. Think of it this way, if I come to your house and start spewing profanity in front of your child can you tell me to stop or to leave or are you bound by the 1st Amendment to just let me continue in your living room?
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10-02-2010, 6:13 AM
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You like apples?
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10-02-2010, 9:01 AM
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10-02-2010, 9:16 AM
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The mods on this website make up draconian laws and they must be stopped. We should BAN together and fight the injustice.
Wait....nevermind.
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10-02-2010, 9:21 AM
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10-03-2010, 10:58 AM
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10-02-2010, 10:39 AM
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I can't stop laughing.
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10-02-2010, 1:02 PM
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And to the OP: You have seven posts. Seven. SEVEN. 7. And you are already *****ing about rules you agreed to when you signed up? Seriously??? WTF over?
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10-02-2010, 1:30 PM
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10-02-2010, 1:36 PM
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He has already warned the moderators that if they continue to take members rights away they will suffer the lawsuit consequences! Somebody ought to start a petition or something.
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12-15-2010, 12:59 PM
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Boy, for all the law dogs on this sight yin's aren't to up on legalese speak.
So while we are waiting for the OP to return, lets see who knows the meaning of the legal term: haybuss corpses
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10-02-2010, 12:12 AM
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What do I think? I think you're so far off base it's not even funny. Well, actually it is funny. Have fun wasting money consulting your attorney.
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10-02-2010, 12:13 AM
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This is going to hurt you a lot more than it's going to hurt me.
I still hope your lawyer doesn't charge you too much for the high school civics class that you slept through. |
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10-02-2010, 12:30 AM
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 This is a private site. The owner can go on a ban hammer spree if he chooses to do so just because he owns it without having to give any explanations. Sorry.  This is a dictatorship, an anarchy. ----------------- Quote:
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10-12-2010, 7:02 AM
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10-02-2010, 12:20 AM
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If you come into someone's house and they kick you out, because you're being an *** or just because they want to, you're out. The US Constitution applies to the United States government interfering with us. This is a privately owned message board. I don't see the conflict here.
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10-02-2010, 12:20 AM
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so, this thread was deleted, then put back up?
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10-02-2010, 12:22 AM
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10-02-2010, 12:25 AM
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Good luck on your lawsuit! Tell us all how it goes, including that part about your lawyer laughing you out of his office.
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10-02-2010, 12:25 AM
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It's a 'teachable moment'....
I think I just vurped a little bit.
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