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Looking forward to this one in our own back yard!
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The rules do not allow me to run my rear setup.
Advancing the sport by keeping the rules from the 1960's
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Throw a rear bag under that som***** and come shoot with us! 😜
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Put a half round piece of barstock on it like a keel on a boat and whoop there rules from the 60's. Add some cant so you get elevation and fill the bag with half heavy sand and half lead shot so it doesn't walk on you.
Beat them at there own game!
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The "original" ELRC rules favored F-class rigs. The "original" rules seemed to prohibit rear adjustment mechanisms. But, If the buttstock only touches a bag; an argument could be made that rear windage/elevation screws have the same effect as bag squeezing.

It seems that revision 10 posted above; relaxed the restrictions. Only, heavy rail and bolted down rigs are prohibited. The rear bag requirement was changed to "may use".

Don't overlook the new 100y zero carve out! That eliminates the cold bore & shooter requirement.

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The 100 yard zero could be made directly before the record shots according to the rules. Another dumb rule. The army snipers don't take a warmup shot before they send one downrange.
I liked this sport because you could do whatever you wanted.
I can't have a rear adjustment system that cost $400 that is deemed illegal, but the AB guys can use $120,000 in electronics and thats OK.
Only progressing the sport for them ... not really interested in new ideas which would make them look bad

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Damn, you aren't messing around!
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Here you go. Gun only touches bag.

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I think Hoffer actually has that exact setup and it isn't allowed?
His guns have a mono-pod that ride in a channel/groove and he can control his windage/elevation from the back of the gun without having to reach out further forward like a conventional front rest.
He is a metals guy and has some unique ideas we are sworn to secrecy about but the AB rules don't seem to allow much imagination for tinkerers.
Don't get me wrong those guys can shoot but they are trending in one direction.
I also trend in one direction a shooting bench but I have a plate a cage and four screws in my neck holding me together and prone shooting is painful.
Our organisation allows everything as long as it is legal to own and shoot.
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I think the trend is having stuff so expensive that Only AB can win.
Helps when you make your own rules

All these cold bore shots everyone is bragging about are not cold bore, but just moving your rifle to a different distance after shooting it multiple times before that. The truth is coming out.
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Some of us new the truth long ago but when we post it some shooters take it wrong and get there panties in a wad.
When your on the line at a big match you usually get the skinny on who is real and who the phonies are.
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A "World"or International record can not be set with a few guys in the US setting the rules. That is what you call a National record at best.
I would call it a National record if the NRA was involved and the meets were officially recorded.
One of the problems is if someone got a record earlier this year using the old rules the new rules would make it void. Then next year when they tweak the rules again same thing happens.

You need rules that will last for at least 20 years.
They have been working on it for almost 2 years and still pretty dramatic changes. The apparent lack of vision in the rules will not stand the test of time and create true progression of the sport.
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Hoffer:

When tech is changing daily (hourly?), a rule that is expected to last for 20 years is a non-starter. This particular event is clearly identified as being for an ELRC record. No one (at their end) is trying to say it is a world record. Taking what they are trying to do out of context is not helpful.
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From LRO

ELR CEntral World Record Event

LRO would like to announce that there will be a World Record Even held Sunday Jan 21st before the 2018 SHOT Show in Las Vegas NV.

From ELR Central

The following is a list of scheduled events in which ELR world records will be attempted according to the ELR Central criteria.

ELR Central World Record Event
Date: January 21 2017

Location: Front Sight Range, Pahrump, NV

ELR Central flyer

INAUGURAL WORLD RECORD EVENT
Las Vegas, NV – Sunday, 21 Jan 2018

1. The World Record will be 3 out of 3 direct impacts on a 36-inch square plate with no
practice shots or sighters.
23. Every attempt will be made to video all shooters for World Records. World Records
must be witnessed and verified by 5 witnesses including the Match Director.
24. Any existing record must be broken by at least 10 yards.
25. If a shooter has a spotter, they will both be named as the “World Record Team.”
26. If a shooter shoots without a spotter, he or she will be named as the “World Record
Individual.”

27. If more than one shooter scores 3 for 3 at a given distance, those shooters will hold the
World Record until another shooter goes 3 for 3 at a longer distance.
28. After a World Record setting performance, the exact range will be re-measured from
the shooter’s shooting position to the target. The shooter’s rifle may also be weighed at
this time to ensure that it is under the 50 pound limit.
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As it says, "ELR Central" world record..."attempted according to the ELR Central criteria". Without the "ELR Central" this announcement is out context. Like saying "Cadillac motorcar" and concluding that "Cadillac motorcar" and "motorcar" are the same thing. Obviously, at least to me, they are not. Everything that follows from the title is ELR Central... just like you say a person's name and subsequently refer to him as "he". Same goes for Guinness World Record. Without the "Guinness" the statement is out of context, at very minimum sloppy presentation.
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Am I reading this correctly that you need 3 hits on your 3 shots to be a world record or ELR World Record?
Or is it one hit at the furthest distance?
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Being the rookie I am more worried by :

Morning Relays: 0800-1000
Afternoon Relays: 1400-1600

Wondering who will shoot in the morning . . .
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Some shooters are expecting to shoot both the AM and PM. It's all good; as long as the attempts are 4 hours apart.

I wonder how many shooters have booked a Front Site session to warm up prior to the match?

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As it says, "ELR Central" world record..."attempted according to the ELR Central criteria". Without the "ELR Central" this announcement is out context. Like saying "Cadillac motorcar" and concluding that "Cadillac motorcar" and "motorcar" are the same thing. Obviously, at least to me, they are not. Everything that follows from the title is ELR Central... just like you say a person's name and subsequently refer to him as "he". Same goes for Guinness World Record. Without the "Guinness" the statement is out of context, at very minimum sloppy presentation.
They are saying their event is a world record. No way to state otherwise.
Be it miscommunication or misdirection the claim they make is a world record.
I believe it to be a match record.
I have held 4 Bonneville "world" records and an FIA international land speed record for 18 years. Only the FIA record is revered by by all.
The Bonneville records were claimed to be world record, but unless it's an FIA international record it's not a true world/international record.
People throw these "record" things around like candy to be believed by those who may.
Oscar ... I think the rules of your association will stand the test of time. No big claims or misrepresentation. Just an honest true to the sport test of skill.

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Lynn - 3 shots and 3 hits at the shooter-chosen distance (suppose to be 6 targets set up, starting at 1500 and going forward to 2xxx). Once a record is shot, that record can ALSO be shot by other shooters and they will SHARE the record until it is broken (at least 10 yards further down range). [I have never heard of a record being shared but that is the way this event in set up.] They have ALSO made it a "shooter's best" event with minimum one hit at any available distance to gain entry into a "xxxx Yard Club" - thus the furthest hit you mentioned.

Hoffer - as you well know, there is NO world organization remotely equivalent to FIA for ELR shooting. There MAY be a meeting to discuss forming one at SHOT. Because of the timing, world participation will likely be limited to folks already planning to be at SHOT on whatever date/time such a meeting might be held. At this point I have only seen a discussion of "meetings" BUT the agenda has not been proposed, "world organization" or otherwise. Reality.
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. . . . but the AB guys can use $120,000 in electronics and thats OK.

Only progressing the sport for them ... not really interested in new ideas which would make them look bad
That's what I mentioned many moons ago - got 'fired' for that idea - but now you see 'my point of view' from back than as . . .

5 guys (and a few companies) running the complete ELR show

Perhaps spilt it up in 2 groups :

1. Private shooters

2. Sponsored / team shooters

I think the line is already drawn in this game . . . and way too high for 99 %

And not being negative but if you ask me . . . . many shooters will stop for that reason !

How do you want all of us to be competitive again a team like AB ?

I am all ears !

That's also the main reason why my brand new rifle & the rest of equipment is just sitting in my garage . . .

I was in a rush to get all ready for the match in Tonopah . . . but . . . but . . . but . . . .

I understand Hoffer completely !

Probably some won't like this post of me . . . but than the will be a reason for it

And now as Lynn said so nicely 'Now I will get my panties in a wad'
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There is still fun to be had in ULR(not ELR) with URSA without the BS.
Good bunch of guys and friendly to newcomers and experienced shooters.

I had a feeling the first time I saw the ELR Central site tied in with the AB site and had only pictures of them on it.

Follow the $. You can smell the stench when you get close.
I am sure they are doing it just to help the shooters out. You might need the $50K in AB electronics only to find they are using $200K in swag paid for by you later on.

There will be 3 guys left in a couple years when the price goes thru the roof.
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There will be 3 guys left in a couple years when the price goes thru the roof.
The 3 Kings . . . . Caspar, Melchior, and Balthasar . . . lol
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36" square! That's a joke in itself.

p.s. I shot the world record last match
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36" square! That's a joke in itself.

p.s. I shot the world record last match
I think a few of us did as cold bore is now redefined as warm bore
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I'm gonna go shoot it. One other guy for Vegas, Robert, is gonna shoot for sure, Kurt is up in the air, I don't really care of the why's or why nots. I'm gonna give it a try and see what happens. Every dog has his day. As much as everyone dislikes AB, I do think they have advanced the sport. Yes, it will be difficult to beat them, but I take that as more of a reflection of my abilities, than anything they are doing.
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You should do good Bill!
Hopefully low wind and no rain.
Should be fun although I'm not sure how 50 guys are all going to zero before the match on the same day. 3 shot zero @ 5 minutes each x 50 shooters = 4 hours +
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I think I will just have my stuff zeroed and ready to go. Getting a cold bore at the distances we are talking about, though not impossible, is gonna be a feat. After this weekend's URSA match, we are gonna shift gears on our training to get ready.
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I think I will just have my stuff zeroed and ready to go. Getting a cold bore at the distances we are talking about, though not impossible, is gonna be a feat. After this weekend's URSA match, we are gonna shift gears on our training to get ready.
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There is still fun to be had in ULR(not ELR) with URSA without the BS.
Good bunch of guys and friendly to newcomers and experienced shooters.

I had a feeling the first time I saw the ELR Central site tied in with the AB site and had only pictures of them on it.

Follow the $. You can smell the stench when you get close.
I am sure they are doing it just to help the shooters out. You might need the $50K in AB electronics only to find they are using $200K in swag paid for by you later on.

There will be 3 guys left in a couple years when the price goes thru the roof.
Hello, Hoffer - please be so kind as to refer URSA-style shooting as UR (unlimited range) since ULR (presumably, "unlimited long range") is rather redundant. Thanks.

Hopefully those three guys (or gals) will be out to show us how it is done - recalling that at least two shooters have to get 4 in 10 to move to the next distance.

As far as the $ investment, it has already been fairly clearly demonstrated that you do not need a ton of money in your rifle to shoot URSA - shoot it as far as you can find a second person to shoot as well (paragraph above). I'm looking forward to NorCal getting a couple of shooters at 4 or more in 10 at 2586 (come this Sunday?) and then Lynn scrambling to get a target up at 3xxx before the lazy types decide that they don't want to wait around.
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You should do good Bill!
Hopefully low wind and no rain.
Should be fun although I'm not sure how 50 guys are all going to zero before the match on the same day. 3 shot zero @ 5 minutes each x 50 shooters = 4 hours +
Zeroing would most likely be several shooters shooting at the same time - at as many shooting benches or ground patches as they have at their 100 yard range.

I've been ejected from the Secret Group for noting that (1) the event (as finally published in the flyer) will not be cold bore and (2) that what is shown in the ELRC world record guideline (published in March) and the match rules need to match. Seems the first part was what got me pitched because they have now copied in the event rules into the space that had been three pages of "guidelines and standards" - hard to mismatch when you are literally using the identical text, format and all.

With some luck, this event will kill off the "cold bore" clamor when what is actually meant is no practice/no sighters.
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Zeroing would most likely be several shooters shooting at the same time - at as many shooting benches or ground patches as they have at their 100 yard range.

I've been ejected from the Secret Group for noting that (1) the event (as finally published in the flyer) will not be cold bore and (2) that what is shown in the ELRC world record guideline (published in March) and the match rules need to match. Seems the first part was what got me pitched because they have now copied in the event rules into the space that had been three pages of "guidelines and standards" - hard to mismatch when you are literally using the identical text, format and all.

With some luck, this event will kill off the "cold bore" clamor when what is actually meant is no practice/no sighters.

I made one simple little comment on a FB page and damn near the whole AB team came out to berate me. Little ol me i should feel so honored that they would care so much about what I have to say.
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I made one simple little comment on a FB page and damn near the whole AB team came out to berate me. Little ol me i should feel so honored that they would care so much about what I have to say.
They don't take criticism very well

Just looked on facebook. It's a 100% AB advertising tool.
Not good when you have 1780 followers and have less than 20 people like their posts. They even like their own post so take 1 off of that.

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I'm looking forward to NorCal getting a couple of shooters at 4 or more in 10 at 2586 (come this Sunday?) and then Lynn scrambling to get a target up at 3xxx before the lazy types decide that they don't want to wait around.
You will be happy to hear Focus got 5 out of 10 twice today at 2500yards
I only got 3 at 2500 which is good for me. It was close to your goal

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Old 12-17-2017, 8:54 PM
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Nice shooting

Congrats !

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Nice shooting up there guys. That's awesome!
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