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Old 03-27-2017, 8:20 AM
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Default NCPPRC Intro to Long Range Clinic - Sat, June 17, Northern California

Long Range Clinic


The NorCal Practical Precision Rifle Club Long Range Clinic is an introduction to precision long range shooting.

When
Saturday, June 17, 2017.
Check-in is from 7:00-7:30 am. Clinic is 7:30 am – 5:00 pm.

Where
Sacramento Valley Shooting Center
If you’re coming from out of town, see our list of places to stay.

Cost
$100 per shooter. There are no refunds for cancellations.
Includes range fees, instruction, course material, drinks, and lunch.

Topics covered during the Clinic
Introduction to our shooting discipline here at Sac Valley Shooting Center.
Prone and positional shooting tips and techniques.
How to run your rifle and optics.
Data Development – gathering actual data for your rifle and load.
Trigger Time – You will shoot from 200 to 1,000 yards. You will have an experienced coach on the firing line to help you with ballistics, wind calls, and getting DOPE out to 1,000 yards or as far as your equipment will allow you to safely shoot.
If time permits we will cover rifles, caliber choice, and equipment.

Required Equipment
Rifle chambered in 6 mm up to .338 caliber.
Tactical rifle scope with ranging reticle and elevation knobs.
70 rounds of ammunition.
Empty Chamber Indicator Flag (you can pick one up during registration for $1.00).
Rifle Sling.
A backpack or shooting bag to carry all your kit in.
Bipod or pack to shoot from.
Rear rest or sand sock is strongly recommended.
Note taking gear.
Tools to run your rifle and optic.
Sun block.
Eye and ear protection is mandatory.
Elbow pads are recommended.
Dress for the weather, we will shoot rain or shine. Long pants recommended, the ground can get hot.
We will have water available on the firing line and in the target pits.
You may want to bring snacks that you can eat on the go. Lunch will be provided.
Please have your rifle zeroed at 100 yards. All of our drop data is based on a 100 yard zero.
We walk the entire range for all distances, including a return to the target pits from the 1,000 yard line.
Make sure your gear is mobile. Practice setup and re-packing of your gear beforehand. Things move fast as we go from one line to the next and you need to be ready to move.

Prerequisites
You must be at least 18 years of age.
You must be able to legally own a firearm to participate in this event.
Proficient with your rifle at 100 yards.

Registration
Registration will open on Monday, April 24, 2017 at 6:00 pm Pacific time. Once registration opens, please complete the Online Registration Form.
You will receive a response within a few days of your entry request.
Please note that this event is limited to 50 participants.

Join our online forum for up-to-date information and to ask any questions you may have.

https://ncpprc.com/long-range-clinic/
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When is the next one ?
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Sounds like fun, I've never shot at 1,000 yards.
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The registration form will not work until registration opens on Monday, April 24, 2017 at 6:00 pm. You haven't missed out. Just be prepared on the 24th at 6:00 pm, this clinic will fill up very fast. Thanks.
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Question for the experts ( I know it has been talked about for a millions times) : straight or angled spotter for long distance.

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That would depend on its intended use. In Precision Rifle, we don't use spotting scopes for Long Range. We do use spotting scopes to spot impacts when shooting steel matches, but that's not the shooter who is on the scope.

If you are shooting F-Class, then a spotting scope is widely used, especially in F-Open or F-TR. (F-Class guys feel free to jump in here to expand and clarify). From what I've seen when I've shot a few F-Class matches, I think I've seen primarily angled scopes. I shoot in the Tactical class, so I just open my bipod, drop the rifle on the deck and shoot, I don't use a spotting scope - but that's just me. If you're scoring at an F-Class match, then you would need to be on a spotting scope.

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That would depend on its intended use. In Precision Rifle, we don't use spotting scopes for Long Range. We do use spotting scopes to spot impacts when shooting steel matches, but that's not the shooter who is on the scope.

If you are shooting F-Class, then a spotting scope is widely used, especially in F-Open or F-TR. (F-Class guys feel free to jump in here to expand and clarify). From what I've seen when I've shot a few F-Class matches, I think I've seen primarily angled scopes. I shoot in the Tactical class, so I just open my bipod, drop the rifle on the deck and shoot, I don't use a spotting scope - but that's just me. If you're scoring at an F-Class match, then you would need to be on a spotting scope.

Hope this helps.
The intended use is to spot hits at long distance range or BLM when I go out and shoot with my friends, to help each other make corrections as spotter. Plus mirage observation to determine wind condition.

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If you are shooting F-Class, then a spotting scope is widely used, especially in F-Open or F-TR. (F-Class guys feel free to jump in here to expand and clarify). From what I've seen when I've shot a few F-Class matches, I think I've seen primarily angled scopes.
Nearly all F-Class shooters have angles scopes, but it is purely preference. Some do not have one at all when they shoot.

In F-Class, we use high magnification on our rifle scopes. Having a spotting scope for watching mirage and other shooter's targets as they come up and down is beneficial, at least for me anyways.
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Nearly all F-Class shooters have angles scopes, but it is purely preference. Some do not have one at all when they shoot.

In F-Class, we use high magnification on our rifle scopes. Having a spotting scope for watching mirage and other shooter's targets as they come up and down is beneficial, at least for me anyways.
Duh, just received a Bushnell t series 15-45x60 with mrad rectile on FFP, but it is straight...

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Duh, just received a Bushnell t series 15-45x60 with mrad rectile on FFP, but it is straight...

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The only difference is that when prone, the straight spotting scopes are a bit harder to use. It can be done though.

Here is a picture that gives you an idea of how some scopes are set up next to the guns during a relay.
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Hey guys. Last year there was a mid range clinic that went from 300 to 600 the day before the long range clinic. Anyone know of that will be happenin good this year and where to sign up?
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It happened today. Was fun.
It is operated by a different club, their long range clinic is tomorrow.
Good guys. I missed signing up their long range clinic so will try to sign up with this one.
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the wind clinic occurred yesterday. it was a great clinic. just enough wind to make it challenging, but not extreme that it made it hard to coach. we had switches, angle changed and pickups and letoffs. no consistent wind really, which is the best conditools you can ask for in a wind clinic.
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the wind clinic occurred yesterday. it was a great clinic. just enough wind to make it challenging, but not extreme that it made it hard to coach. we had switches, angle changed and pickups and letoffs. no consistent wind really, which is the best conditools you can ask for in a wind clinic.
Unfortunately yesterday I was at a match so I couldn't attend. When is the next one?

Somehow watching a 338 LM getting blown all around at 2k has made me reconsider the need to brush up on my wind reading.

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With a 6.5 rifle, should I get 120gr elm to make the wind reading more challenging? Or 140 gr?

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Being a rookie :

140 should resist the wind better

120 will be there faster so less impact of the wind

Try both and see what your barrel likes . . .
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Being a rookie :

140 should resist the wind better

120 will be there faster so less impact of the wind

Try both and see what your barrel likes . . .
Good suggestion, except that I would not have a range to try it at 1000 yard until I go to the clinic

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Good suggestion, except that I would not have a range to try it at 1000 yard until I go to the clinic

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Most of the regulars on the 1000 range at sac will shoot 139s, 140 and 142 grain projectiles.
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Most of the regulars on the 1000 range at sac will shoot 139s, 140 and 142 grain projectiles.
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Just try each

The 6mm guys are shooting around 105 grains so . . .

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The 6mm guys are shooting around 105 grains so . . .

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The advantage of the smaller 6mm cartridges in say a PRS setting are typically for recoil mitigation so follow up shots can be taken much faster. The primary calibers seem to be the 6x47 lapua, 6mm creedmoor, 6XC and 6 Dasher. If recoil mitigation was never a concern, then I would suspect shooters would be choosing larger calibers to get better ballistics.

In F-Class, the 6mm are used primarily for the same reasons, but the consensus is that the 6mm cartridges are just inherently more accurate. In mid-range, the targets are small and in many cases the match winner is determined by the X-count. This means that a gun needs to be consistent in 20+ shots. The primary cartridge is a 6 Dasher or 6x47 lapua for this game.

That being said, for long range (600+ yards), smaller calibers have a hard time against the 7mm. The 6.5 mm cartridges have a harder time as well, but can be overcome by shooting a 6.5mm bullet really fast, like in a 6.5x284. The downside is barrel life. Stick with the largest caliber you can shoot with the heaviest bullet and shoot it at a decent speed and you will fair better in the long range game.
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Stick with the largest caliber you can shoot with the heaviest bullet and shoot it at a decent speed and you will fair better in the long range game.
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I am shooting 6.5 creedmore with a RPR.
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Cool gun for sure,

Decided on 147? 143?g

How fast should I push 6.5cm 140grn to hit 1000?
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Cool gun for sure,

Decided on 147? 143?g
I was asking around here the projectile selection. So far people are suggesting 140 gr.
Going to pick up more Honady 140 gr ELD.

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Also am sporting 6.5 Creedmoor in a Ruger Precision Rifle.
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I think so - I'm trying to sign up but it says registration is closed. Dang ..mad at myself for not signing up. Waited on a friend to see if he could make that day.
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