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Of course I am a fraud when it comes to hunting. Which is fine. Still looking for the pics of all those San Diego hogs he's killed. Maybe he can teach me a few tricks? I need lots of help with killing deer too. |
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Sure, but different bullets do that to a different degree based on design depending on impact velocity and energy as they penetrate as you certainly know. I was speaking in general terms to make a point and keep it simple
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Thank you!
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Xcountry brings all these charts and tries to prove his point but dismisses all that really matters. Which is simply making sure of HIS abilitys, having the best optics available to him and carrying enough fire power to put the animal down with one shot and avoid wounding and losing the animal after he shoots it. Everything else is BS! |
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You're comparing an operating system to a text editor.
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As usual this kind of thing (like 9 vs 40 vs 45) starts out amusing at first llstening to all the bias and ego but degrades into anger and pejorative statements pretty quickly because egos get wrapped up in the tech and positions.
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Some poeple consider that bloated OS built on top of UNIX called EMACS a text editor. I think using it is an unnatural act the might be illegal in some states. But then I use a real man's OS even on my desktop.
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Absolutely scrap it, get rid of it asap, I'll send you a check with my FFL's number! Last edited by Don@Tahoe; 07-07-2013 at 7:45 PM.. |
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Hey buddy...take a look at the chart at 1:14....it shows you what everyone else is saying....its all about bullet construction and energy transfer that does damage...not BC... to me honest...I don't see that 6.5G bullet fully expanding or expanding enough to transfer its energy to the gel....heck based on BrassFletchers data...the 223 almost caught it on bare gelatin in terms of energy transfer... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROdbEm5wqA |
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I put some stock in what Chuck Hawk says. He's weighed in on both rounds. to paraphrase him a bit without treading on his copyrights...If anyone wants to full scoop—and he gives it—join his site. It's a wealth of information.
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I'll see your lame picture of somebody else hunting, and raise you one of me hunting, with a 6.8. 200 pounds, and it was charging my daughter when I shot it at 40 yards. Unless you can post one of you hunting something with your 6.5, it is time for your mom to kick you off the net for a while. You are getting a bit pastey down there in the basement, and you really should go outside and play with the other kids now. I like 6.8 for hunting thin-skinned medium game simply because it is a reasonably effective, low recoil round that a kid can use. It is still an intermediate round, and should not be considered to be a replacement for a full-powered hunting cartridge most of the time. -Mb (who loves it when trolls say they are "done" with a page because it means they are still reading it, but can't post without everybody knowing they are still reading)
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The 6.8 SPC is a sweet little round in an AR-15 or Mini-14. In my Contender pistol, it's a little more snappy but still fun to shoot. Great picture by the way.
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Then you just form the brass from 30-30 brass in standard 6.8SPC dies.
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Thanks Randall, Yeah, rimmed cartridges with Contenders are the way to go. I don't shoot my 6.8 SPC all that much, I like my 32-20 with a 308 bullet better, it's a little less abusive and groups better at 100 yards. Thanks for the tip.
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This conversation has been moved to the CALGUNS Facebook page. When people are forced to use real identities theirs less chance of jackassery. To much trolling and overreacting emotional silliness on here. Your welcome to join the conversation on that side.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/26740744435/
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Jackassery such as being banned from a whole subforum?
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I guess now we can compare your "ammo" to a volkswagen. They can pretty much do everything including off road but in the end there are much better vehicles to choose from. I guess you just blow your own argument about everything you have ever said in the last 3 months. LOL |
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He didn't do that, trolls made that happen
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Is there some irony there?
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OP - just curious - what is your highest level of education with regards to ballistics, aerodynamics, or similar topics? or even say just classical physics?
mine is not particularly high, but i do know that both cartridges are in the same ballpark and the difference probably isn't as big as you imagine. i.e. 6.5grendel vs 6.8spc it isn't 22lr vs 50bmg or even say 204 vs 375. but now you are calling us all trolls b/c we don't agree with this picture or idea you have painted in your head based on that 1 thing you heard that first time you saw a comparison? or b/c you are eating a bunch of marketing w/o an actual understanding of the physical principles dictating the numbers (granted, im sure hornady knows what they are talking about more than i do, but it's still mostly marketing you're eating). so yes, continue your attitude, go on facebook and continue to help the shooting community look like stubborn, ignorant, and argumentative bottom feeders. or calm down, think for a second, and then continue the discussion. Last edited by penguinofsleep; 07-08-2013 at 5:53 PM.. |
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just sent Email to Hornady asking about there H.I.T.S scoring and how they give a bigger hit score to a smaller bullet with less energy in FT.LBS then a bullet with higher everything across the board - velocity , diameter , energy . I will post there reply
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