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I’ve been there right with you for longer, and cut my teeth on the old primitive Pre-SYS-V Unix systems, like Xenix, Ultrix (DEC Unix), BSD386 and even SunOS/xBSD, when it finally arrived. The first Linux I ever ran was RedHat 2.x and that was on a multi-cpu Pentium Pro, and it crashed horribly trying to compile and run the SMP kernel. I never thought it would get to the level of refinement necessary for ubiquity, but here we are. I remember when networking required you to install a package called Berkeley Sockets. I also remember that because of the popularity of Socket Programming, that it became the de facto standard for network communication APIs. I even remember that silly play toys like Microsoft Windows for Workgroups required third party libraries to gain TCP functionality, and that Microsoft integrated WinSock prior to utilizing full BSD sockets in WINNT 3.1. You can still see license attribution to UC Berkeley in the Windows source. By the logic of some posters, Microsoft Windows must then run on a version of *BSD, as well. In reality, Windows is a direct descendent of DEC’s VAX/VMS kernel with the Windows API bolted on top. This was clearly visible as up until Windows 2000 (WINNT 5), NT released ports for: Intel, MIPS, Alpha and PPC, the primary installation targets of VMS. But, WIN32 programs primarily would only have binary compatibility on Intel, hence why the others were killed-off, as MS had no intention of supporting any other native CPUs. |
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I have in the past. The problem is I can't get away completely from the Windows/MAC world. Turbotax (for example). Now before somebody says I can always run Windows as a VM; that requires purchasing Windows. And if I have to do that what's the point??? I've heard Turbotax has an web version these days but I don't really trust that.
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Good choice, relatively painless transition.
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Several distros, since the 1990's, starting with Caldera Linux 1.3 and Red Hat Linux 5.2.
Today, we run a combination of Kubuntu LTS, CentOS, and Slackware, all protected by an OpenBSD-based firewall setup. Of them, Slackware is my favorite, though I typically recommend either Kubuntu or Linux Mint to people coming from Microsoft OS's.
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Not everything runs well in WINE, Sir.
I run Linux Mint for some things. I do lot's of graphics type stuff/Gaming, and Linux just plain sux for graphics, and gaming. |
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Graphics apps like GIMP and Inkscape work fine. I don't use them because I don't care for their interfaces (I'm used to the Adobe and Corel products... and GIMPShop is neat but not great), though Inkscape does have a neat plugin to drive a CNC laser I will use sometimes, but it works the same in Windows so I typically use it there.
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I deal with the Linux Redditors every day, who think Linux is the answer for everything. Nothing wrong with it for programming, and doing most tasks, but it's just NOT there for everything/everyone. 3D apps, Photoshop, AutoCAD, and Gaming? Linux isn't the answer. The way Linux deals with nVidia, is TERRIBLE! I use Linux when on-line for certain things, educational stuff for the grandkids, and as Linux IS more powerful than Windows for the most part, I use Knoppix for rescuing files off Windows computers, stuff like that. As a matter of fact, my Grandbabies have their own computers, and both run Linux Mint MATE. Last edited by Dragunov; 05-28-2020 at 6:35 AM.. |
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Experienced many different Distros. I keep it simple with Debian.
You're also using a Debian derivative. If you stick with Linux long enough you'll see it boils down to just a handful of branches and in the non-commercial sector it points back to Debian so you can suit up Debian to your refined tastes after a while (meaning you can take Debian and make it look and feel like Linux Mint with the packages found in Kali, for example). |
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Another way to look at it is package formats. Most things that use .deb came from Debian. Most of the .rpm is original red hat derived. Finally you get some of the build from scratch distros like arch or Gentoo. Which is a bit more like the old bsd where buildworld rebuilt the entire os for your system. |
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Here's a good breakdown of the root distro types.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._distributions At home I primarily use Debian. At work it's CentOS and Red Hat. I only use Ubuntu when I have to, and I prefer not to. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk |
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i was running Mint 19 and playing window games with steam. wanted to play blizzard games and i had to switch back to windows. it's just hard switching back.
Mint didn't work my laptop's finger print reader and wouldn't switch off the NVIDIA card to Intel when i wasn't playing games. maybe a future distro will fix that.
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Anybody who tries to use Microsoft Office on a GNU/Linux distro (e. g. with Wine or Crossover Office), I have no idea why, given that LibreOffice is so good at this point and has been for quite a long time. It's been 17 years since MS Office was in my home, and I routinely run LibreOffice at work as well (this is on a MS Windows box).
If you're just wedded to Adobe Photoshop, and that's how you make money, then I can see it; I'd still choose a Mac, though, for such tasks. To date, there has been nothing here at home, including as a general user, that I've had to do that GNU/Linux has not been able to handle. Matter of fact, it handles several things better than MS Windows. And it respects my freedom.
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That was one of my favorite uses for Knoppix, as it would even write to NTFS volumes, if need be, on the newer flavors. Not much need when some machines can reinstall windows 10 In 30 minutes these days on an SSD from a USB stick, and since I do well enough now to not need to do side work it has been a long time since I used it for this purpose.
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I recently moved from Ubuntu since they keep trying to reinvent and forcing snap apps first, and moved to POP OS. I am impressed. I used to use debian but I need some more updated apps and its hard to figure things out since I do not program and I am just a user not a tinker! I mainly want privacy and less intrusion!
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Fedora's a good distro. It's definitely somewhat "bleeding edge" at times, since it's the test ground for RHEL. But I've used it and have found it to be pretty easy to deal with. It's a good choice.
I'm still on Kubuntu LTS because they haven't forced 'snap apps" on us yet, i. e. standard .deb packages continue to work just fine and probably always will. As long as it keeps doing what I need to do, I see no reason to get rid of it. MS Office 365 via Web browser: first, that would then require an Internet connection. Second, your data really isn't "yours", if it's in Microsoft's cloud. I'd rather keep my stuff local on my computer and be able to work with it without any company like MS getting in my way of doing that.
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I'm not a Linux guy, so I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the correction. I started with CP/M, went to DOS, then Windows. I know, I know, ALL of it started in Unix. I've been in I.T. for over 40 years, and I'm not up on the history of software, before CP/M.... I'm ashamed.
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For you PDP folks the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA has a working PDP-1.
https://computerhistory.org/exhibits/pdp-1/ And for you big iron folks they have 2 working IBM 1401s. https://computerhistory.org/exhibits/ibm1401/
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So true, so true. |
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An electrician may never see a plumber's job, but they fall under the construction umbrella. An ironworker and a concrete finisher use entirely different equipment. What it ultimately comes down to in "the real world" is what you end up doing for the company that's right in your checks. There is some high paid people in it that do not know how to program because the job does not necessitate it. There are even many more highly paid software programmers that would have an extremely difficult time connecting a router and a few managed switches. |
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Yep since RedHat 6, mainly Debian, cents these days. Ran Slackware as my main desktop for time a while back. If you’re on 19.10, you should do a release upgrade as it’s support is ending soon. For Ubuntu I tend to stick to the lts.
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Turns out the wife has a computer that she'd installed Ubuntu Xenial Xerus (16.04) on some time back. This is an AMD 4-core build from maybe 2-3 years ago, and it seems she followed my advice on stuffing enough cores and DRAM into it for desktop use. Upgraded it to the current LTS version (20.04 Focal Fossa) last week, and I'm using it right now to make this post. :-)
I also installed kubuntu-desktop on it, since I tend to prefer KDE (she likes GNOME and uses that). Recently used Knoppix to do some troubleshooting on another box. I really like Knoppix; it's very handy. Installing it gives you standard Debian, too, so you get all that goodness as well (Debian is and always has been a mighty fine distro in its own right).
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"San Francisco Liberal With A Gun" F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah! http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos) http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast) http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel) ---------------------------------------------------- To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism. |
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But I digress. I've noticed these days there's aren't much in the way of Windows standalone applications because everything runs on a browser. Besides Office-type apps and a file editor I don't really need Windows at all. So I'm thinking of loading Linux on a semi-new laptop that came with Win10. Should I put it on a different "segment" or partition or vm or just wipe out the Win10 completely? |
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If that isn't enough Linux for you then you can install hyperv and create a VM which just about any Linux distro will run in. Finally you can do the create a second partition and dual boot but really it's more hassle then it's worth. Boot loaders are still not great and sharing files between the systems can be a pain. One option you might want to think about it running Linux in a raspberry pi. The board is only $35 and it's ready to run, it only needs a sdcard and a good USB power supply. You can get in cheap and you don't need to worry about losing your windows data. |
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I just wipe the Windows installation completely and install GNU/Linux on it. It reduces complications all the way around; I have no need for the Windows OS at this point. Been doing this on HP, Dell, and Acer laptops for years now.
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"San Francisco Liberal With A Gun" F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah! http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos) http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast) http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel) ---------------------------------------------------- To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism. |
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