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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Ideal for Los Angeles County to issue CCW
It hit me this morning that crime is starting to rise in Los Angeles County again. Emptying of the jails is probably the main reason for that... LA County Sheriff Alex Villanueva has publicly announced budget problems (caused by County Supervisors cutting his budget because they really don't like him). I'm trying to think up a sales pitch that says "CCW Permit Issuing will help."
I know CCW permits are fixed price/fee, however, there are ways around this with "options". 1) Fast track option where the person applying supplies a DOJ COE for approval, saving the Sheriff's department the labor/money. 2) Required training could be through a school that gives kickback money to the Dept. Licencing/endorsement I believe is the word. 3) Sheriff could request a once-a-year ride along to help augment his staff. 4) Obvious direct cash flow from +10,000 law abiding people applying and maintaining those permits year after year. Any other ideas on how to sweeten this for him? He may do it just to rub it in the Super's faces at this point. They really hate each other.
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LA is simply NOT going to issue CCW's. They will continue to thumb there middle finger at the 2nd Amendment. There is no rhyme or reason other than their hate for the concept of allowing their citizens to carry guns. You will have to move. I did.
Last edited by robert101; 05-27-2020 at 9:59 AM.. |
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He has already stated that increasing the amount of guns "on the streets" in the hands of otherwise law abiding citizens will increase crime, specifically referring to the CCW license. Keep in mind that an elitist not only believes that they have the right to determine what you can own, they also believe that they are entitled to the products of your labor. If he needs money, he'll find a way to force you to pay for it, without just compensation. Don't worry, the citizens will be happily complicit in any scheme that he develops.
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FWIW...
Supposedly, during the late-1990s to early-2000s, LASD Sheriff Lee Baca was open to the idea of issuing conditional (restricted use) CCW permits for a $10,000 application fee and $5,000 renewal fee. It was an outgrowth of his "special reserve deputies program" that was utilized by Hollywood "celebrities" as a means for them to have LEO powers and be able to conceal carry. This program was shut down within a year due to various incidents (brandishing, excessive force, etc) involving the people that were enrolled in the program. |
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OP, you are living in a pipe dream. It simply won't happen. As another member said above. Move. I lived in L.A. County for most of my life. I moved six years ago and now I have my CCW.
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It is very clear why they will not let the black community carry guns in LA. They just won’t come out and tell you the real reason because it is against the law. Hence the general nonsense of nobody gets one just because LA(I) said so.
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Best bet is winning some type of Carry from SCOTUS, perhaps as soon as before this July 1st.
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Let me tell you how controlling the idiot Villainueva is. His own civilian staff (Corrections officers, professional staff like nurses) who work with inmates do not get CCWs. You think he will issue a mere peon like you a permit?
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The last list of CCW permit holders that I saw had quite a few non-sworn members of the department on it.
Contrary to a lot of popular belief, contributors to the Sheriff's campaign fund were not present on the list. I only saw one person, whose employer was a large contributor, that had been issued a CCW permit. But he was also a reserve deputy and they were regularly issued CCW permits.
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And I should also note that the non-sworn folks that were issued CCW's tended to be the very senior members of the Sheriff's headquarters staff. I didn't see any line level non-sworn on the list.
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Give it up. It won't happen and it isn't even worthy of a discussion!
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The Sheriff is hosting a virtual town hall for residents in Santa Clarita on June 11th between 2pm and 4pm. Even though it won't make a difference, we should call in and make our voices heard regarding CCW's in the county.
https://www.hometownstation.com/sant...sidents-329890 There is a link in the story to register for the event. |
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Exactly why we need CCW. If the police won't show up, we're on our own.
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In case you wondered........they don't. Move to Kern county; Donny takes great care of the folks! |
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Sad but true. In another thread, LA chief and Sheriff hand out cards to protesters
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I'm not trolling. I am being honest. It is simple math and you don't seem to understand that. There are simply too many antis and anyone who is elected sheriff will not issue a CCW to regular people. You will not get a CCW in L.A. County. Period, end of story. It is your time to waste so have at it and good luck!
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Politics at play here, as always. |
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Agree with Big Jake. My cousin used to be a jailer, he didn’t like to be called this, they preferred correctional officers, for LA county; applied for CCW because of threats from inmates. He was denied repeatedly. He moved to San Diego and working for San Diego Sheriff as a jailer; he got his CCW automatically, his words. It must be true since it showed CCW on his jailer ID.This was way before Sheriff Gore changed his issuing policy. It just won’t happen in LA county for regular Joe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Ideal for Los Angeles County to issue CCW
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I am not quite sure who was the Sheriff but it was back in 2004-2005. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Signed up! Thanks
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There are no "sensible options" for CCW issuance in L.A. County. They simply will not issue to regular citizens. You can discuss it all you want. At the end of the day you will not get a permit. You are truly a wasting your time, however, as I posted above. It is your time to waste so have at it!
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"They" have already made up their mind a long time ago. It has absolutely nothing to do with sensibility either. They know all the data there is to know. It simply does not matter what you place in front of them. They do not want you or I to own or posses a firearm. |
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That I already know. I am asking specifically for a LEO’s off the record opinion in this current climate. How would he/she handle it? It’s also your time to waste to answer everyone who brings up the subject of ccw/LA county. So you also, have at it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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