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But are they Biden supporters? Have you seen one Biden flag or Biden hat or Biden shirt? I cannot find one Biden supporter. The people that are never Trumpers are more likely to be a-political than Biden supporters and may just as likely vote for a third party/green party candidate or no candidate. You should ask them if they are voting for Biden and we'll get a much better outlook.
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Ironically, your best chance at getting ANY gun laws changed or repealed would be via BLM protesting for gun rights to defend themselves against racism.
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Their woke parents would have already mailed in their ballots. For the whole family. Because coronavirus.
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What it'll turn out being is permits issued to only BLM for the above reason. The rest of us can't prove a "need" for it.
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So yes, both are tiny samples. One million people wanted tickets to Trump Rally tonight: that is a bigger sample than any poll (which is usually 1-2 thousand at most.
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And 6,200 people attended - a third of available seats. A follow-on outdoor venue was canceled due to sparse attendance. This is the kind of event die-hard supporters would have attended. While there may have been multiple reasons for the low attendance, the result is telling.
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Google k-pop tiktok Trump.
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People who hate Trump will hang on any excuse, while those who support him will see it differently. But if you are pro-gun-rights and do not vote for Trump, Biden will win and Beto O'Rourke may get to come and take your ARs and the SCOTUS will let him. November 3rd, 2020. will have the final answer.
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I also noted something interesting... For 3 1/2 years the Democrats have screamed falsely that Trump interfered with the election process with Russia's help. Such an outrage! But that has been de-bunked and proven false. And yet, a Democrat in Congress is boldly taking credit for and lauding the very same thing when their side does it: committing wire fraud to deny Americans their right to political assembly. Many Americans will remember that hypocrisy and double-standard so common on the left this November... BTW: this is political discussion in the wrong forum: one for updates and discussion of the SCOTUS Cert Denied. I responded this last time, but this needs to go elsewhere. My apologies to all for the transgression.
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Benefactor Life Member NRA, Life Member CRPA, CGN Contributor, US Army Veteran, Black Ribbon in Memoriam for the deceased 2nd Amendment Last edited by advocatusdiaboli; 06-22-2020 at 12:35 PM.. |
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Have you been drinking the CNN kool-aid? 8 million online viewers with FOX, 2 million from other online independent channels. ~10 million total online viewers. Low attendance but high online viewership. https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoy.../#279694fd1fe2 |
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>a single rally out of literal dozens under-performed during an economic and health crisis - surely Drumpf is finished this time :~) lmao |
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FYI... More young people watched it on Fox than CNN or MSNBC! Among viewers 25-54, the viewing group most valued by advertisers, FNC finished first in the 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. time period with 1.54 million viewers, followed by CNN (562,000 viewers) and MSNBC (294,000). Together, they were not even half of Fox News total. Fox News rules. MAGA
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No one calls him Drumpf in satire...says lmao cynically...
The ChiCom trolls use those memes. And he has a low post count. My spidey-sense says: Troll sign.
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The thing that's frightening to me is that out of all those cases, covering everything from handgun rosters, to hicaps, to AWs/EBRs, to OC/CC, SCOTUS felt there wasn't even one issue they were confident they could get 5 of them to agree on. To me, the most obvious "new" area of 2nd A Con law that they should have been able to agree on at some minimal, bare bones level would be Carry, that there is some right to "Bear Arms." Yet they wouldn't even accept one of the Carry cases (and note well it was a Carry case Thomas chose to write his dissent).
That the antis are sooo anti they won't admit any "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" should frighten everyone of us to fight for Trump to win re-election and for the GOP to hold the Senate like there were ATF agents gathering in front of our homes, preparing for a "no knock" seizure of all of our weapons. (Winning back the House would be good too.) Trump campaign: https://trumpvictory.com/ GOP Senate campaign: https://www.nrsc.org/ GOP House campaign: https://www.nrcc.org/
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240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives. Last edited by Paladin; 07-02-2020 at 7:41 AM.. |
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We are in a limbo now until November 4th (or perhaps the January 2021 inauguration depending on who wins in November): right now the 2nd is not longer a federal right (as it is supposed to be as an enumerated right), but an individual state-granted "privilege" to be restricted at the whim of each state. The scenarios I see are... If Trump wins: we will re-gain the federal right if/when either Roberts or RGB retires. Otherwise, without a conservative shift in the House, we're treading water...no new laws at the federal level, the SCOTUS will continue to avoid the risk of losing certs on gun case, and states which choose to, will gradually reduce the "privilege to keep and bear arms and ammunition". if Trump loses: the right is dead for several decades: Biden has already promised "Beto" O'Rourke will be his "gun czar" and we already know what he thinks about ARs and other guns, the status quo will allow states to continue infringe on the "privilege to keep and bear arms (and ammunition)" at their whim. More permanently, he'll fill any vacancy with an anti-gun justice and that will be the last nail in the coffin. I will vote in the election but my vote for Trump will not matter: the electoral college votes in California are very likely to go all to Biden. Other votes will also have little impact based on the mid-terms. But I won't give up as long as I am still registered here. Every gun owner who cares about their right of self-defense and the 2nd Amendment as well as America's tradition of freedom and liberty needs to get out and vote. If the radicals can take away the right of the police to defend themselves, your right to do so will be a cake-walk.
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If we lose this, the country is lost forever. Too many "swamp"/"deep state" RINOs have gone along w/Dems to import people who have no idea of how our federal republic was meant to operate and, frankly, don't care. They just want to make money and live like they're in their homelands ("multiculturalism" "diversity").
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If nothing else our tenacity scares them or pisses them off or both. And that is better than nothing. My reps ignore me...except around election time...then they pretend to listen and pretend to care. Quote:
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DeBlasio blessing the BLM protests while insisting concerts and even Jews going to temple need to have their gates welded shut should be an indicator. In New York City, being willing to go after religious Jews, means literally every religion better expect the full weight of arbitrary enforcement. Imagine if the FBI sent 15 agents to investigate any of the beatings of protestors like they did in the NASCAR driver's triggering by garage pull. No, we are entering a dark time where the law as written matters less than who appears before the bench. The idea of equal before the law will rapidly become a quaint notion on the course we are on. I doubt replacement of Roberts or RBG will stop this slide into the abyss.
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well, what have we got here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo
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Behind closed doors during one of John Roberts' most surprising years on the Supreme Court https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/polit...=pocket-newtab Quote:
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If Robert's indicated his preference to undermine the 2A, then the 4 liberal justices would have granted cert. & danced on the remnants of our constitution.
I believe Roberts is unclear on his position & is scaring both sides. |
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I support originalism!
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The very fact Americans are subject to literal kremlinology and speculate about octogenarian's deaths leading to a different political regime is evidence enough that even Hamilton's logic says we are far from originalism and we're deep in tyranny. Wait, sorry, Marbury v. Madison and other past cases are more important, because being consistent is the bedrock of the courts, except when they blatantly contradict themselves and repeal past rulings fully. The kafkaesque logic that posters here have to engage in to assert originalism makes any sense, or has any hope of reforming the system is truly hilarious.
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Just read an article that says, based on insider information, that the reason cert was denied in ten 2A cases was that Robert had signaled (privately) to the other four conservative justices that he could not be depended upon to side with them. It made sense, then, for the four not to risk losing even Heller to a justice worried that he would be labeled a mass murderer for allowing the 2A its rightful place in the fundamental personal rights pantheon.
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Roberts is turning into a real problem. He seems more interested in going along with the crowd. To preserve the status quo or back larger majorities in what looks like an effort to keep the court out if politics. I wouldn't be surprised if he would go against the 2a cases now but all of a sudden be for them once RBGs seat goes to a Trump appointment. |
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