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Old 11-07-2018, 1:22 PM
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Default CA DOJ Signage Update required for 2019

CA DOJ SIGNAGE DEALER REQUIREMENTS

Quite a few are NOT tagging guns in inventory with the ....New warning labels for any firearms transferred or sold in CA (DOJ provided) are required after 1.1.2018, order at tics@doj.ca.gov include your CFD number, contact name, contact number, full address and the total number needed planning for a 3-6 month supply.

The eight large 1" letter signs currently required stay in effect through 2018.

As of 1.1.2019, one new sign is required and 3 others are updated.

They are available here:
https://rkffl.com/products/2019-cali...d-replacements

If you wish to buy a new kit with the 2019 (9) signs it is available here:
https://rkffl.com/products/2019-cali...-large-posters

or the link to all options available:
https://rkffl.com/t/ca-doj-dealer-required-signage





There is an option offered by another member to print them off on 33 pages of 8.5x11 paper on your own printer.
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Old 12-28-2018, 1:12 PM
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A couple of dealers have asked if the signs need to be in the correct order. The answer is NO. They just need to be displayed where they can be seen. The actual order is shown below according to the penal code. Numbering of the signs is not required. The DOJ understands that many of us have signs going back many years with different letters. This is to once again help you make sure you have what is needed. Kevin @ RK Enterprises

(1) “FIREARMS MUST BE HANDLED RESPONSIBLY AND SECURELY STORED TO PREVENT ACCESS BY CHILDREN AND OTHER UNAUTHORIZED USERS. CALIFORNIA HAS STRICT LAWS PERTAINING TO FIREARMS, AND YOU MAY BE FINED OR IMPRISONED IF YOU FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THEM. VISIT THE WEB SITE OF THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL AT HTTPS://OAG.CA.GOV/FIREARMS FOR INFORMATION ON FIREARM LAWS APPLICABLE TO YOU AND HOW YOU CAN COMPLY.”
(2) “IF YOU KEEP A LOADED FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE OBTAINS IT AND USES IT, RESULTING IN INJURY OR DEATH, OR CARRIES IT TO A PUBLIC PLACE, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY FUNCTIONING.”
(3) “CHILDREN MAY BE UNABLE TO DISTINGUISH FIREARMS FROM TOYS AND MAY OPERATE FIREARMS, CAUSING SEVERE INJURIES OR DEATH. IF YOU KEEP A PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON THE PERSON, WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE GAINS ACCESS TO THE FIREARM, AND CARRIES IT OFF-PREMISES, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR, UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY FUNCTIONING.”
(4) “YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR, INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT FINE OR IMPRISONMENT, IF YOU KEEP A FIREARM WHERE A MINOR IS LIKELY TO ACCESS IT OR IF A MINOR OBTAINS AND IMPROPERLY USES IT, OR CARRIES IT OFF OF THE PREMISES TO A SCHOOL OR SCHOOL-SPONSORED EVENT, UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE.”
(5) “IF YOU NEGLIGENTLY STORE OR LEAVE A LOADED FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR CUSTODY OR CONTROL, WHERE A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE IS LIKELY TO ACCESS IT, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR, INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT FINE, UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE.”
(6) “DISCHARGING FIREARMS IN POORLY VENTILATED AREAS, CLEANING FIREARMS, OR HANDLING AMMUNITION MAY RESULT IN EXPOSURE TO LEAD, A SUBSTANCE KNOWN TO CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS, REPRODUCTIVE HARM, AND OTHER SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY. HAVE ADEQUATE VENTILATION AT ALL TIMES. WASH HANDS THOROUGHLY AFTER EXPOSURE.”
(7) “FEDERAL REGULATIONS PROVIDE THAT IF YOU DO NOT TAKE PHYSICAL POSSESSION OF THE FIREARM THAT YOU ARE ACQUIRING OWNERSHIP OF WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE INITIAL BACKGROUND CHECK PAPERWORK, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS A SECOND TIME IN ORDER TO TAKE PHYSICAL POSSESSION OF THAT FIREARM.”
(8) “NO PERSON SHALL MAKE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD AND NO DELIVERY SHALL BE MADE TO ANY PERSON WHO HAS MADE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD.”
(9) “IF A FIREARM YOU OWN OR POSSESS IS LOST OR STOLEN, YOU MUST REPORT THE LOSS OR THEFT TO A LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WHERE THE LOSS OR THEFT OCCURRED WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF THE TIME YOU KNEW OR REASONABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THE FIREARM HAD BEEN LOST OR STOLEN.”
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I just saw last years "conversation" on this topic. lol

Thanks for the update. Love you and Hate you lol. Cant blame you for making a buck, I sure dont want to print them out. Looks tacky. Maybe for my home FFL and post them on the ceiling lol
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Maybe for my home FFL and post them on the ceiling lol
Was gonna' say... 2AZone is going to have to move into the Bonus Room
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Was gonna' say... 2AZone is going to have to move into the Bonus Room
Heh, we got them all from him and they are all hung up in the room. We are adding the tags on start DROS, do we have to add them when taken into inventory? I assume as long as the guns leave with the tags it's fine?

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Heh, we got them all from him and they are all hung up in the room. We are adding the tags on start DROS, do we have to add them when taken into inventory? I assume as long as the guns leave with the tags it's fine?

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you need them on the ceiling cuz most of the time im there thats where i look lol
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Heh, we got them all from him and they are all hung up in the room. We are adding the tags on start DROS, do we have to add them when taken into inventory? I assume as long as the guns leave with the tags it's fine?

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Can you clarify? What "tags" are you referring to? Is this something new I missed. I already put the smaller warning tags on the guns along with the Federal handgun pamphlet that's required. I don't have the tag in front of me, I don't recall the BOF/DOJ number.
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The new tags are a bit larger that the older ones and contain a Att. General web site address for Cit's to use for further info.
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Can you clarify? What "tags" are you referring to? Is this something new I missed. I already put the smaller warning tags on the guns along with the Federal handgun pamphlet that's required. I don't have the tag in front of me, I don't recall the BOF/DOJ number.
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you need them on the ceiling cuz most of the time im there thats where i look lol
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Waygeekierthanu, that’s what I thought you meant, I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something.

I’m running low, I thought we were supposed to order them through the DOJ, I sent an email a few weeks ago and have heard nothing.

Can I make copies on card stock and use those?
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Waygeekierthanu, that’s what I thought you meant, I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something.

I’m running low, I thought we were supposed to order them through the DOJ, I sent an email a few weeks ago and have heard nothing.

Can I make copies on card stock and use those?
You can copy them, but due to the requirements, it needs to be in color?

What address did you email the CA DOJ at? There is a specific email address: tics@doj.ca.gov (corrected, didn't look at the most recent email that I sent)

Where are you located? I got a whole bunch of them, then again I got a whole bunch of the old ones just before they changed, I think that they wanted to get rid of them.
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I also had to email them three times before they sent them out
But did they give you three times what you asked for like they did with me? :-)
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But did they give you three times what you asked for like they did with me? :-)
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To avoid looking at the guns or to avoid looking at Sandra?
Ya... to avoid looking like a creeper
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The correct email address according to DOJ for the hang tags is

tics@doj.ca.gov

It changed when they started the newest version of the tags. When the DOJ sent the warning letter PDF on AB1525 it was on the front page. Kevin @ RK Enterprises


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What address did you email the CA DOJ at? There is a specific email address: boffscprogram@doj.ca.gov

Where are you located? I got a whole bunch of them, then again I got a whole bunch of the old ones just before they changed, I think that they wanted to get rid of them.
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The correct email address according to DOJ for the tere hangs is
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Are the warning labels changed for this year also?
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Are the warning labels changed for this year also?
The ones posted by "wayjeekierthanu" above are the ones currently in use.
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The ones posted by "wayjeekierthanu" above are the ones currently in use.
That is the same as last year when it changed. I compared the wording.
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Ok, yeah I needed to reorder anyhow so I got another 1000 coming.
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Currently shipping within 24 hours on all orders. Some had asked as tracking was not dispersed the same day.
I have 3 sons, 2 are in the Army and fortunately I have been hosting the oldest child's family why he is deployed overseas. Going back to having a 4 month old and a toddler around is very enjoyable but does slow me down a bit.
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