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Old 09-19-2013, 9:42 PM
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2550 FPS / .324 BC

Altitude varies from Texas (boar) to Wisconsin (deer) to Nevada (big horn)....
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Altitude varies from Texas (boar) to Wisconsin (deer) to Nevada (big horn)....
Is that a flat base?
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Yes - I rarely go longer than 350 with this round...
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Yes - I rarely go longer than 350 with this round...
Ok ill run data with 0-350 in mind
Just so you know the drop is not much at such short range so I will be on.
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arrghh, mine's not due to arrive until monday and I'll be stuck in Vegas for work then.
arrgh, more first world problems. UPS decided to change the delivery date to today instead of monday, but never sent me any UPS My Choice notifications about the shipment untiil less than 2 hours before the rescheduled delivery, but there was no-one home to sign for it so it won't be delivered until monday again unless I can pick it up from the depot tonight or Saturday.
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Ok ill run data with 0-350 in mind
Just so you know the drop is not much at such short range so I will be on.
Be right back with data for you
Ok if that s your data and not some factory claim here is how it will look.

This is with a 200 yard 0 or about 2" high at 100

100+1.8"
200 0
300 0
400 -4"

Here it is with a 100 yard 0

100 0
200-2"
300-6"
400-8"

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arrgh, more first world problems. UPS decided to change the delivery date to today instead of monday, but never sent me any UPS My Choice notifications about the shipment untiil less than 2 hours before the rescheduled delivery, but there was no-one home to sign for it so it won't be delivered until monday again unless I can pick it up from the depot tonight or Saturday.
Sucks..

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Watched the video, how would the break down be for .308?
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Got mine. Numbers and lines in reticle are to small for me to focus on with my right eye. May be my slight eye infection.
I may be wearing my reading glasses to use this scope.

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Got mine. Numbers and lines in reticle are to small for me to focus on with my right eye. May be my slight eye infection.
I may be wearing my reading glasses to use this scope.
Its not going to look right unless your looking at stuff 300 yards + up close the horse shoe is what to look at.

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Got mine. Darn thing is built like a tank. Illumination knob and magnification ring tight, take a bit of force to move. Suspect will loosen a bit. 1x seems to be pretty close to true. And as said before, glass is pretty clear to me.

As for the reticle, you're gonna need close to 20/20 or glasses if you want to utilize to it's fullest potential. I just had PRK (form of Lasik) surgery to my eyes this past Wednesday to be able to use scopes with such fine reticles, so talk about an expensive scope. Left eye (dominant shooting eye) hasn't fully recovered yet so gonna have to wait a few more days before I can hopefully play with my new toy.

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Here is the first review and pic of reticle

http://fnforum.net/forums/optics-mou...ns-review.html



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That's pretty comparable to what I would write. Very nice body. Reticle looks great in the daylight unlit. Looks great illuminated in daylight.

The light smear in a low lit area is what immediately caught my attention. It does look like smudges all over the glass. Not noticeable on 2 in a low lit area, which to preserve low light vision would probably be the best setting anyway. But I am still left wondering what it's about. It's not visible in daylight, just lower light.

The glass seems to be good from 1-4x. After that it seems to get cloudy. At 6x it's very hazy. I was looking approximately half a mile off at a house up the hill. This may be because I didn't focus the scope, but the paper seems to read that the reticle should be sharp, which it is. But the view is cloudy. I'll try focusing tomorrow to see if that'll go away.

I don't have another variable scope to compare to. Only used to a fixed 4x.



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Its black and very easy to see
I prefer it to illuminated in bright day light. The Battery life is 300hrs at highest level but scope will work with out it.

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I picked mine up from UPS tonight and the switch was left in an ON position and the battery is apparently dead. I'll put in a new battery tomorrow and see if it was a dead battery or not. Please remind your staff to turn the unit off after they finish QC.
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What battery does it use and how many?
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1x CR2032
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1x CR2032
Thanks. Primary Arms should add that information to the specs on their web page.
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That's pretty comparable to what I would write. Very nice body. Reticle looks great in the daylight unlit. Looks great illuminated in daylight.

The light smear in a low lit area is what immediately caught my attention. It does look like smudges all over the glass. Not noticeable on 2 in a low lit area, which to preserve low light vision would probably be the best setting anyway. But I am still left wondering what it's about. It's not visible in daylight, just lower light.

The glass seems to be good from 1-4x. After that it seems to get cloudy. At 6x it's very hazy. I was looking approximately half a mile off at a house up the hill. This may be because I didn't focus the scope, but the paper seems to read that the reticle should be sharp, which it is. But the view is cloudy. I'll try focusing tomorrow to see if that'll go away.

I don't have another variable scope to compare to. Only used to a fixed 4x.



I have 1-2 setting for night time. I tested it and the very low settings were purposely done.I live near woodland with no lights around. At night your eyes and ambient light allow you to see in short distances. At night some illuminated scopes appear very bright and glare. This scope at 1-2 the illumination is perfect! Our goal was to have a 24hr capable reticle.

ACSS low night setting notice there is no glare and in person very easy to aim with.



PA3x
Notice the glare and how you see 3 reticles. Its hard to show in a pic but at night in very low light thats a problem, a big problem. For those that have aimpoints and eotechs check it out they have that feature as well.



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Mounted and leveled my 1-6x tonight. Will head out to shoot and zero this weekend.

First observation is the scope seems well built and the ACSS reticle looks very nice.
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Mounted and leveled my 1-6x tonight. Will head out to shoot and zero this weekend.

First observation is the scope seems well built and the ACSS reticle looks very nice.
Leveling is key I also use an anti cant device. Get the wind holds right its the most important thing and hardest to master.

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Leveling is key I also use an anti cant device. Get the wind holds right its the most important thing and hardest to master.

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Correct. On a BDC reticle anything less that perfectly level will start to show.

I'm anal about getting the level dead on.
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Correct. On a BDC reticle anything less that perfectly level will start to show.

I'm anal about getting the level dead on.
Do u have an anti cant device? It will do you no good to have a level mounted scope and then cant the rifle.

I like this one its cheap and works.



There also the 30mm


Sounds like your a serious shooter.

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Do u have an anti cant device? It will do you no good to have a level mounted scope and then cant the rifle.

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You bet. I use the same type as you.

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1-4x. After that it seems to get cloudy. At 6x it's very hazy. I was looking approximately half a mile off at a house up the hill. This may be because I didn't focus the scope, but the paper seems to read that the reticle should be sharp, which it is. But the view is cloudy. I'll try focusing tomorrow to see if that'll go away.
Pretty honest review, although I would not say it gets VERY hazy at 6x. A barska at full magnification is VERY HAZY. This, to me, is noticeably hazy. Its very workable. There is a lot of fish eye in the peripheral of the scope, but that doesn't really even matter.

The waiting is over. Now I have to put some rounds down range. A lot of rounds.

My main concern is that this scope isn't really that waterproof... but I will let someone else dunk there's in a bathtub.

Great scope, great price. Best frickin reticle on the US market. Thanks to the team at Primary Arms.
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Pretty honest review, although I would not say it gets VERY hazy at 6x. A barska at full magnification is VERY HAZY. This, to me, is noticeably hazy. Its very workable. There is a lot of fish eye in the peripheral of the scope, but that doesn't really even matter.

The waiting is over. Now I have to put some rounds down range. A lot of rounds.

My main concern is that this scope isn't really that waterproof... but I will let someone else dunk there's in a bathtub.

Great scope, great price. Best frickin reticle on the US market. Thanks to the team at Primary Arms.
I agree. I got mine and shot it this morning! The reticle is not only the best in the US market but arguably best ever made! Even with my old eyes we were popping gallon jugs of water at 400 and then 500! The glass on my 6x is a little better then my 1-6 but like you said that does not matter. I love how fast it is at lower x and how accurate I am at 6x. My friend was not buying in to it until this morning. He has a Vortex and Nikon buck master and out of all the shots fired and knob turning he popped 1 jug. I let him try my 1-6 and he hit 2 out of 4 shots at 400. The scope is average to good but the reticle turns it to the best scope for the money out.
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Thanks guys
I created it to solve my field problems using other scopes and range finders.
This reticle is made to range an engage targets out to 800 hitting center mass fast.

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Patiently waiting for PA to stock some mid-priced glass with this great reticle.
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I haven't received mine yet (Monday seems a loooong way off). But I'm very excited about this reticle.

I would love to see this reticle in a higher-powered scope (something like a 4-16, 5-20, or 6-24) with larger objectives and calibrated for 7.62x51 M80 ballistics.
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I haven't received mine yet (Monday seems a loooong way off). But I'm very excited about this reticle.

I would love to see this reticle in a higher-powered scope (something like a 4-16, 5-20, or 6-24) with larger objectives and calibrated for 7.62x51 M80 ballistics.


Have you heard about the
4-14 FFP with ACSS HUD reticle coming soon?The standard ACSS is designed for fast ranging and engaging more set for a carbine the HUD is designed for a DMR or sniper system. It is perhaps my best work yet. Set for .308 175 gr SMK 168 SMK and others including some .223. M-80 lined up good I believe out to 800. The standard ACSS lines up with M80. There is also another reticle coming that has proven very effective at CQB-Medium range called

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There seems to be something between my glass. I have tried cleaning the lenses but it's still there. Any idea?



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No, just took it out of the box today and put it on a rifle I got out of jail today.

It doesn't move, shake or anything. Not sure if it's something on the glass on the inside or a mark on the outside. I cannot see anything without looking through the scope.

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Not sure why anyone would have any complaints about the scope given you just paid $250 for a 1-6x scope! There is nothing comparable in that price range.
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No, just took it out of the box today and put it on a rifle I got out of jail today.

It doesn't move, shake or anything. Not sure if it's something on the glass on the inside or a mark on the outside. I cannot see anything without looking through the scope.

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Pretty honest review, although I would not say it gets VERY hazy at 6x. A barska at full magnification is VERY HAZY. This, to me, is noticeably hazy. Its very workable.
Alright, I finally got a nice clear day and 5 minutes of time and peeped out the window again. I'd agree with the above. It'll work for sure. The image is comparable at 6x to the one posted right before mine of the fence. Totally usable. Now I just need to get out to the range with it, and patiently wait for the AK version.
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Old 09-22-2013, 6:05 PM
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Finally had a chance to Mount the scope today on my Colt. Great lighting this late afternoon. I just came in from my back porch "peeking" at the homes on the next ridge (800-1,000 yds estimate) and the 6x is GTG.

And for $300 w mount, CQB to 800yds, come on now people. Up next, range report (need to sight in) then followed by CQB report.
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