Upland is going to renew! (Upland Stopped Issuing LTC's) (Upland LTC in 3 weeks)

[morrcarr67]

I get my hair cut in Upland and my barber lives in Upland and he told me that the City of Upland is now issuing LTC's and the process from start to finish was about 3 weeks.



Looks like they are going to renew.

See post 388

[DannyInSoCal]

That's actually one week too long....

[TaticalTater]

[Trout_fear_me]

Nice! That's my old stomping ground as a wee young lad.

[Capybara]

3 Weeks! That's so un-California-like!

[TheWoodCrafter]

I used to live in Upland. Nice little town.
That is fantastic news for the citizens of the city.
I would assume you need to live inside the city limits.
I didn't realize that any city inside a county that issues LTC can issue one themselves.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by TheWoodCrafter

I used to live in Upland. Nice little town.
That is fantastic news for the citizens of the city.
I would assume you need to live inside the city limits.
I didn't realize that any city inside a county that issues LTC can issue one themselves.

Yes you need to live in the city.

Yup, any Chief Law Enforcement Officer may issue a LTC/CCW permit. In fact San Bernardino CO used to make you apply with your city first. Then you would bring your denial letter to him and you could now apply for one from the county.

[CG of MP]

Does that include the DOJ firearms check? I hear THAT ALONE is taking far more than 3 weeks.

How long should the firearms portion of the DOJ check take?

[postal]

Originally Posted by TheWoodCrafter

I didn't realize that any city inside a county that issues LTC can issue one themselves.

Any city police chief 'can' issue.

Almost none do. And defer to the County Sheriff.

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

I get my hair cut in Upland and my barber lives in Upland and he told me that the City of Upland is now issuing LTC's and the process from start to finish was about 3 weeks.

Does he actually have a CCW or that's what he's heard? There's no way the process only takes three weeks; you can't get your firearms clearance that fast.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Doheny

Does he actually have a CCW or that's what he's heard? There's no way the process only takes three weeks; you can't get your firearms clearance that fast.

From start to finish he was done with everything needed to get HIS LTC/CCW.

Step 1: Fill out form and turn it in.
Step 2: Meet with Lt of Detectives.
Step 3: Wait for call from the Chief's Secretary.
Step 4: Attend county approved training in Victorville.
Step 5: Wait for the Chief's Secretary to call and tell him she has his firearms training certificate and on what day his permit would be for him to pick up.

All this took 23 days.

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[Tommy C]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

From start to finish he was done with everything needed to get HIS LTC/CCW.

Step 1: Fill out form and turn it in.
Step 2: Meet with Lt of Detectives.
Step 3: Wait for call from the Chief's Secretary.
Step 4: Attend county approved training in Victorville.
Step 5: Wait for the Chief's Secretary to call and tell him she has his firearms training certificate and on what day his permit would be for him to pick up.

All this took 23 days.

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You can't beat that. That's how govt should work!

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by CG of MP

Does that include the DOJ firearms check? I hear THAT ALONE is taking far more than 3 weeks.

How long should the firearms portion of the DOJ check take?

All they had him do was bring his guns so they could verify make, model, calibre and serial number. I have no idea if they did a DOJ check on them.

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[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Tommy C

You can't beat that. That's how govt should work!

It's a shame not every office works like this.

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[postal]

He didnt have to livescan????????

Please talk to him and clarify that he did not livescan, or hasnt done a recent live scan for his work.

[Dee_Dub]

OP your friend a celebrity ? or a VIP? what was his GCS?

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by postal

He didnt have to livescan????????

Please talk to him and clarify that he did not livescan, or hasnt done a recent live scan for his work.

That was part of the interview with the Lt

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Dee_Dub

OP your friend a celebrity ? or a VIP? what was his GCS?

Nope. Just a Barber in the city of Upland.

They have a new policy in the city. They are pretty much issuing to any resident that can pass a basic NICS background test.

[FLDWRX]

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[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by InsanePropane

No celebs live in Upland.
Claremont, LaVerne or Glendora.
I used to live in Upland. Dammit!

Time to move back

[Dee_Dub]

I know a few ppl that live out that way. Sort of surprise they started to issue.

[$nake-Eye$]

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Dee_Dub

I know a few ppl that live out that way. Sort of surprise they started to issue.

Be sure to let them know

[postal]

Originally Posted by postal View Post
He didnt have to livescan????????

Please talk to him and clarify that he did not livescan, or hasnt done a recent live scan for his work.
End quote-

That was part of the interview with the Lt
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I've been waiting and waiting for someone else to question this....

So far no one has....

So, I'll ask again.

1- do you actually know what a "livescan" is?

2- Did you actually confirm with your friend that he actually took a livescan fingerprint check from an authorized livescan source?

3- How did your friend get his livescan results that fast?????

A "livescan" is a form you fill out, and digital fingerprinting- then checked against FBI national database, CA database, and for USUAL CCW applications also includes the DOJ "firearms check"- which usually takes 3-5 weeks.....

The form will say
"Request for Live scan service"

ORI # CA33xxxx....

and give an "ATI" #

It is minutely possible that his 'interviewing' detective performed a live scan at the interview....

However it is ridiculously unlikely...

Please confirm with your friend if he has an "ATI" number assigned from a livescan check.


The "gun check" for the live scan typically takes longer than 3 weeks.... Thats why I'm curious.... and I've not heard of ANYONE getting a permit without doing the livescan with gun check....

The FBI an normal DOJ check is in within 24-48 hours. However, the DOJ "gun check" is usually 3-5 weeks...

My interview detective did not perform the livescan... He gave me a list of authorized live scan agencies....

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by postal

Originally Posted by postal View Post
He didnt have to livescan????????

Please talk to him and clarify that he did not livescan, or hasnt done a recent live scan for his work.
End quote-

That was part of the interview with the Lt
__________________


I've been waiting and waiting for someone else to question this....

So far no one has....

So, I'll ask again.

1- do you actually know what a "livescan" is?

2- Did you actually confirm with your friend that he actually took a livescan fingerprint check from an authorized livescan source?

3- How did your friend get his livescan results that fast?????

A "livescan" is a form you fill out, and digital fingerprinting- then checked against FBI national database, CA database, and for USUAL CCW applications also includes the DOJ "firearms check"- which usually takes 3-5 weeks.....

The form will say
"Request for Live scan service"

ORI # CA33xxxx....

and give an "ATI" #

It is minutely possible that his 'interviewing' detective performed a live scan at the interview....

However it is ridiculously unlikely...

Please confirm with your friend if he has an "ATI" number assigned from a livescan check.


The "gun check" for the live scan typically takes longer than 3 weeks.... Thats why I'm curious.... and I've not heard of ANYONE getting a permit without doing the livescan with gun check....

The FBI an normal DOJ check is in within 24-48 hours. However, the DOJ "gun check" is usually 3-5 weeks...

My interview detective did not perform the livescan... He gave me a list of authorized live scan agencies....

Yes, I know what a livescan is.

Upland PD has their own Livescan system. So does Montclair PD and Ontario PD; I found this out when I got my Hazmat Endorsement on my CDL, too bad for me I couldn't use either one. It cost him like $113 dollars to do it and it was done when he met with the LT.

[Best sale]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Time to move back

I second that .....

[caliberetta]

3 Weeks for a CCW permit in California? Holy crap that's almost like freedom.

[Randy G.]

Klamath County (Oregon) Sheriff's office uses Livescan. I applied for and got a non resident CCW from them in 10 days. The hold up isn't Livescan.

[AR-Realtor]

I have a friend that lives in Upland that's been talking about getting his CCW. I'll have him go down there and be a guinne pig

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by Randy G.

Klamath County (Oregon) Sheriff's office uses Livescan. I applied for and got a non resident CCW from them in 10 days. The hold up isn't Livescan.

The comparison isn't the same.

"LiveScan" is the name of the machine/process. Klamath may have LiveScanned you, but they didn't do the firearms check that CA DOJ does. That's done in Sacramento by someone at the DOJ and that's what takes so long to get a CCW here.

So yes, in California the LiveScan is the hold up.

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[NastyNate]

This is awesome. Way to make a relatively safe city, even safer.

[Dee_Dub]

Originally Posted by morrcarr67

Be sure to let them know

Already did, I'll try and update for the forum when I get a chance to speak to them on their experience.

[morrcarr67]

Originally Posted by Dee_Dub

Already did, I'll try and update for the forum when I get a chance to speak to them on their experience.

Cool

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[jonc]

Update !!!

Cuzin had interview today with upland PD
This morning. Said the inteview went well .
PD said they will review and contact here within
A week .
She got a call back same day it was approved .

Now she has to schedule fingerprints
and Sheriff's gun safety class!!!!

[Foxmaster05]

I live in Upland and applied at their PD around Dec. '12 for my CCW. I met with Lt. Anthony Yoakum (nice guy), but ultimately it was just a formality since they were deferring apps to the Sheriff. If they're processing it themselves now then this is a great step forward.

[Dee_Dub]

To any permit holders from upland, Do they have any restrictions placed on the permit?

[jonc]

Originally Posted by jonc

I told my 2 cousins about this thread ..
They went tue to pick up apps .
Turned in apps to UPLAND PD today .
1 has a interview Monday!
Other has interview Tuesday!...


This is how It should be everywhere ...

Update !!!

Cuzin had interview today with upland PD
This morning. Said the inteview went well .
PD said they will review and contact here within
A week .

[roadtrip]

This is interesting. What caused the change of policy?

I'd imagine that someone on the board here will be picking up their paperwork in Upland soon and going through the process. When that happens, can you report back with some more details on their policies and procedures?

[voodoomedman]

Originally Posted by Dee_Dub

To any permit holders from upland, Do they have any restrictions placed on the permit?

Yeah. One thing I don't like about San Berdoo is that they restrict using it for work. Can't go get an executive protection job or something like that because of it. Trampling on our rights to a legitimate job.


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[jonc]

i think you MUST BE a upland resident to apply for ccw direct upland PD