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One more thing I miss being retired
The days where going to qualify meant I could put a few hundred rounds though my guns, making cleaning worthwhile. Spent more time cleaning the them after qualifying yesterday then I did actually shooting them.
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Range time is the best at work: paid to shoot guns and ammo that someone else paid for at a place someone else maintains! Another bonus is that the more political staff members seem to avoid range time/spend as little time there as possible. And I like using that time to give a good detail clean to all my other metal bits of equipment..
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The county I retired from has a Sheriff that has a yearly retiree breakfast. While there you can qualify with your retirement guns, get a updated ID card, and get to talk to fellow retirees that I haven't seen for sometime.
Also has the range open for regulars and retirees for reasonable amount days a month. No set amount of guns you can qualify with. The qualification is documented so you have a record of all the guns you have qualified with. |
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Another sign of how much things have changed. At my dept range days for active sworn is like pulling teeth. Everyone is offered several hours of shooting but most only do the bare minimum qual and leave. There are guys/gals here and there that take advantage but for the most part they will shoot around 30 rounds and there for about 20 mins. I would love to have more coworkers that took shooting more seriously. It's only one of the most important job skills we have.
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Worst part is I don't know anyone there since the city decided to disband the department and go contract with the SO. We're kind of the red headed step child. Which is funny because the carbine training course they are still using today was written by my range partner and I. Well plagiarized with permission from the guy who wrote the instructor's course. |
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Glocks, Berettas and even revolvers. Lets not even get started on 1911s. Some people can not use tools properly so it does not surprise me some people are clueless on firearms. |
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Another time a different staff officer leaving a recoil spring at the range after cleaning his firearm. Range staff was frantic trying to figure out who didn’t have their handgun put together right
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What do I miss about being retired? Nothing. Did my time and have moved on to the rest of my life. Way to much to get done before I go to relive my glory days!! LOL
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Sorry, I dont know a thing about this---what does qualifying involve? And, why does a cop have to qualify to keep a gun in retirement? Are these special guns of some sort?
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OIC! Thank you. If I understand this then, the keyword here is concealed carry, not retirement. The way I was reading the posts, it seemed being an ex-policeman was forcing the annual qualification, but its concealed carry that does. Im sorry to seem ignorant about this.
What does qualifying involve? Is it proficiency in breaking down a weapon? Meeting a certain target score? Are corrective lenses allowed? What are the obstacles that make it difficult to pass a qualification?
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We have a certain amount of rounds we fire and they all have to be in the black. Corrective lenses are permitted for an active officer, so by the same token, they are for the retiree (within a certain standard as when active). I would say that age, mobility and sight deterioration are going to be obstacles we retirees will all face. Altho it will be difficult, if I live long enough (mom was 94) that those factors or anyone of them will make it unsafe for me to carry, I'll turn in my ccw and give my guns to my kids early. I believe age and sight will be the two biggest detriments to qualifying. Just being in a wheelchair or a walker doesn't mean one can't qualify. |
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I didnt want to say it but yes, age, sight, mobility. Im 64 and doing fine but a man's got to know his limitations, right. Ive been riding motorcycles since I was 13 and last year was the first time of an instance of demonstrating poor judgement based on one of the above. When I start piling up those instances, I'll stop riding. For guns, if I really just cant shoot well at all i'll give them up except for one simple revolver for bedside and i'll give up that one too when I can no longer pull the hammer back. I dont know how best to answer this as im not in the space yet. Maybe I quit altogether. Although, my dad just turned 90 and can still shoot! We'll see.
So, would you say that the target course in one of the Dirty Harry movies was accurate, that you move about a course shooting bad guys that pop up and out of windows, then fail the test if you shoot a good guy?
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The course I shot was a static course, only movement front to back. Fired 36 rounds (I don't know who came up with that number or why PIA with a J frame). Had to score better than 85% hit's inside the 9 ring on a standard B27 target. Anything below 85% was shoot again. |
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This is the goal
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AZ DPS offers retired LEO's who reside in AZ the opportunity to qualify here and AZ will issue a AZ DPS proof of qualification which meets the LEOSA standard. The course of qualification is the same as active duty LEO's here in AZ. 50 rounds at various distances between 25 and 3 yards. Strong hand and weak hand. From the holster and from the low ready. including different types of failure drills and types of reloading. All timed. It's pretty challenging. If I were to travel back to my dept. in Ca. all I would have to do is put 20 of 30 rounds into a standard target... Much less challenging.
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We qualify every quarter. The regular quals are a dynamic course of fire, 45 rds, from a holster. For off duty quals (active and retired), it's usually at the discretion of the rangemaster on duty that day. Since people are usually doing their CCW with pocket guns of various makes, models and magazine capacity, it's hard to run a line to accommodate everyone. So, we typically shoot a traditional 36 rd static course of fire ("point and shoot") at a B27 target, various distances, from a holster. The passing score for off-duty weapons is the same as the regular quals, but they're really just looking for you to demonstrate safe operation of the CCW weapon you've chosen and that you can get put enough rounds in the middle. Weapon breakdown is not required and corrective lenses are ok. I think the only challenges I've seen for our retired guys is maybe a little bit of arthritis in their hands or bad knees; but I have not seen any unsafe weapon handling. Quote:
No, but we do that kind of training every year on a "simulator screen" program. The officer uses a laser-operated training weapon to address situations as they are presented on a huge video screen. The officer talks to the suspects on the movie screen as if it were a real scenario and an instructor in the back of the room uses a computer to control the actions of the "suspect" in response to how well the officer is handling the situation. If force is required, we have laser guns and laser pepper spray (etc) to "shoot" the screen and the computer program is able to tell if you hit the correct target. Cool stuff. Thank you for asking!
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