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Turner's New Safe Affidavit Policy
Just picked up 2 lowers at Turner's Norwalk, which by the way took forever even with nobody in the store.
Apparently, now you have to own a safe with a combination lock to use the safe affidavit. My safe is keyed, so they made me buy 2 locks. First time I've heard anything like this.... |
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Took me 70 mins. just to pick up. I had to wait about 15 minutes to be helped, the rest of the time I was just waiting for them to figure out what their doing? Store was pretty empty when I left, maybe 3 people.
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I did, she asked me if it was keyed or a combo. I said keyed...
She said, Oh you have to buy a lock. Only the combo ones count for the affidavit. |
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if you safe is UL-listed, it can be a keyed-safe, that is covered under #1. #2 on the other hand does not seem to allow for keyed-safes.
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The affidavit is pretty specific, either you do or you don't, if you don't have a qualifying safe or DOJ certified lock box you won't be able to legitimately use the affidavit. Why the outrage? Have you even read the affidavit?
http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd...orms/gsaff.pdf
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read the affidavit, it states what is acceptable. An unlisted keyed safe doesn't appear to be acceptable under option #2.
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Well............enjoy the locks. If it happens again, please dig a little deeper into her understanding, ie., is it store policy, does she think it is the law, etc., because she is full of it, possibly without knowing it. I know they have you over a barrel at that point, but it is bs.
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I called the store mgr for clarification. His name is Mike. He said it's gotta be thick wall steel safe with a combo.
Turner's uses their own form that is very simple, it just asks for model number and brand. What the H do you guys do with all these locks? I have a bunch still in the packaging. What else are they good for? Only one I'd keep is the Ruger, since it's a padlock type. |
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Next time dont answer questions and fill in the paperwork accordingly.
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as for the locks, hang on to them. Some day the latest high school fashion is going to be these locks as necklaces. NOT KIDDING
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Can't speak to some weak sauce form Turner's came up with but the actual affidavit is pretty clear, at least to me. |
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I didn't need a receipt. They just wanted make and model.
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[QUOTE=Master Blaster;10502996]You can have a cabneit. You just have to bring the receipt.
Winner winner! This is the bottom half of the CA DOJ form (already been down this road) Affidavit Stating Ownership of a DOJ-Certified Lock Box (This affidavit applies only to lock boxes listed on the Roster of Firearms Safety Devices Certified for Sale and is not valid for any other type of firearms safety device. Firearms Dealer: This affidavit is only valid when accompanied by a receipt.)I own and possess a _________________________ ________________________ lock box that is listed on the (Make) (Model) Roster of Firearms Safety Devices Certified for Sale that will accommodate the firearm(s) I am taking delivery of on ________________. The DOJ-certified lock box was not presented at the time the firearm was acquired (Date) because the lock box was permanently affixed at some other location or too large and/or heavy to present at the time of acquisition. I declare under penalty of perjury that all statements made in this affidavit are true and complete. (Signature) (Date) Last edited by TheHammerOfTruth; 02-11-2013 at 9:27 PM.. |
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So, they followed the law and you're complaining?
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That's all the lady who helped me with my 2 lowers at the Norwalk Turners asked for. Nothing about it being a keyed or combo safe.
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So I take it you've been back there looking for guns yourself? Did you ever ask why it took so long to find it? I asked when I picked mine up @ Reseda. They said that they had over 200 lowers stacked in there. Ever since this latest gun craze, they've been overflowing with guns. So it would take a while to find your gun. As for your safe, if it doesn't fall under either of the 2 categories then you're SOL. The form they use is not something they made up on their own.
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So, it's bs.
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Big 5 uses this affidavit as well.
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The stack on cabinets are not considered a safe so you can only fill out the affidavit within 30 days of purchase with receipt I believe. The DOJ approval really means very little when it comes to what qualifies a safe from a cabinet. I went through that headache and ended up having to buy locks. Needless to say I just picked up a real safe after that |
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I asked a salesman about commission and this is what he told me. They don't get commission, but they get something called "turners bucks" which they can use as store credit.
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Please stop wasting our time. I would say our air as well but Kes doesn't control that. No difference between an approved cabinet or safe. There probably should be. Turners is full of it. A keyed lock is perfectly ok. If you roll over for Turners expect to get rolled over a lot. Last edited by paul0660; 03-06-2013 at 2:01 PM.. |
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Here you go. Hope this meets the criteria for "not wasting your time"
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=708735 Stack on cabinets are certified as lock boxes not gun safes. Lock boxes are a separate portion of the affidavit and only good for 30 days. Quote:
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Last edited by AKSOG; 03-06-2013 at 2:51 PM.. |
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