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Old 01-29-2015, 2:20 PM
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U.S. Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer (R-Mo.) released a statement after a meeting with Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Chairman Martin Gruenberg and Vice Chairman Tom Hoenig discussing the agency's involvement in Operation Choke Point.

Today, the Congressman told NSSF, "After a year of mounting pressure from Congress and outside organization like the National Shooting Sports Foundation, top officials from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation finally acknowledged their involvement and wrongdoing in Operation Choke Point. While I am very pleased the FDIC will put in place new polices and change the culture at the agency, there is still work to be done, specifically with the Department of Justice. I am pleased the National Shooting Sports Foundation supports my legislation, the Financial Institution Customer Protection Act, and I have no doubt the foundation will remain steadfast in educating its members and continuing the fight in ending Operation Choke Point once and for all."

The FDIC's important admission immediately received the attention of the Heritage Foundation's Daily Signal, which filed this comprehensive story by news producer Kelsey Harkness.

Earlier this week, the firearms industry's outspoken opposition to discriminatory financial services practices was the subject of major print and video coverage by the Daily Signal's Harkness, who traveled to the SHOT Show to gauge industry response, including an exclusive interview with NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel Lawrence G. Keane.
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Kudos to NSSF and Rep. Luetkemeyer.

AG should be ashamed of himself, such a failure.

Thanks for posting OP.
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If only they had to pay a nice (out of pocket) fine that could be distributed to the people they hurt.
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If only they had to pay a nice (out of pocket) fine that could be distributed to the people they hurt.
seems like a stretch that those involved acted in good faith....

didn't like guns personally; abused authority to make them harder to buy...
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Interesting that this coincides with the senate information hearings for the next AG. Today's hearings were apparently an airing of grievances against the current AG. Could this be the beginning of the DOJ "cleansing of the pallet" or just some making nice so the senate won't take it out on the new nominee.
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That entire "operation" was unfair and unjust to many legitimate businesses. Fines would be pointless, but I like to see an advertising campaign admitting what the did was wrong and they are apologizing to those who were harmed by this illegal and unjust action. Probably 99% of the public are completely unaware of this "operation".
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That entire "operation" was unfair and unjust to many legitimate businesses. Fines would be pointless, but I like to see an advertising campaign admitting what the did was wrong and they are apologizing to those who were harmed by this illegal and unjust action. Probably 99% of the public are completely unaware of this "operation".
I'd just like to see the Washington Post and the New York Times and the LA Times man up and admit the Executive branch was using Federal regulations to unfairly target perfectly legal American businesses of which it did not approve.

Fat chance, huh?
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More from NRA-ILA: Momentum Shifting Against Operation Choke Point?

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...a Wisconsin gun dealer reportedly captured audio tapes of his conversations with employees of his credit union, in which they acknowledge they were terminating his account because of pressure from federal regulators who objected to the nature of his business. The recordings appeared to substantiate the central criticism of Operation Choke Point: that it is seeking to deny entire lawful industries of access to banking services, rather than specific bad actors within those industries.
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"Operation Choke Point" was part of Obama's promise to the Brady bunch of "under the radar" action against guns...
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I hate to bring this up, as I know its a sore subject; but isn't this partly or wholly the same reason why GPAL failed?
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I hate to bring this up, as I know its a sore subject; but isn't this partly or wholly the same reason why GPAL failed?
Good question. And I agree, its a potential can of worms. But I am curious whether early operation choke point type efforts were related to the Gpal failure.
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I guess "integrity" is no longer a desirable trait anymore.

Operations like this are insidious & repulsive on so many levels.

If the GunPal/ Gpal / Ben Cannon fiasco was somehow related to Operation
Choke Point, that would be very interesting, indeed.


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I hate to bring this up, as I know its a sore subject; but isn't this partly or wholly the same reason why GPAL failed?
Doubtful. Gpal had a lot of other problems. Also, it failed long before Operation Choke Point went into effect
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Doubtful. Gpal had a lot of other problems. Also, it failed long before Operation Choke Point went into effect
The Gpal incident was talked about across several gun forums and created
quite a mess for all those connected with it.

Its conceivable the Anti 2nd Amendment crowd monitoring gun forums
picked up on this, saw the havoc it caused, and started thinking about
how to capitalize on it in some manner.

In other words, it might have been one of the catalysts which eventually
resulted in Operation Choke Point years later....

Doubt if we will ever know for sure, one way or the other, though.


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