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Old 09-12-2015, 5:41 PM
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Default First Range Trip With My New X5 Comp....CZ Tac Sport Came Too

So a couple of weeks ago I finally found my SIG X5 Competition 9mm. Right place / right time, one owner, <400 rds, shipped in from Ohio, bargain priced for free states and a steal at California pricing. Fortunately for me the owner had 10 X5's and was selling one to fund an X6.

I picked it up this week and I installed a set of Hogue G10 Mascus Blk/Grey Chainlink grips and put some white out on the black front sight. I took it out to the range this morning and I brought my new CZ Tactical Sport 9mm along too.

Both guns are SAO, large framed, large double stacked grips, and have some weight to them. Both are great shooters with great triggers. The trigger on the CZ is a very light pull (2 lbs?). Lighter than every other gun I own, I like it, and I still need some rounds to get used to it. Sig says the X5 is 4.5 lbs, it's very smooth, and feels a bit lighter than the specs. The reset on the SIG is twice as long as the CZ but more tactile. The X5 doesn't come with a SRT installed and for my purposes I don't think it needs it. The TS reset is awesome, so short it appears to happen when you just think about releasing the trigger Neither gun has any noticeable creep. Once I get accustomed to the TS trigger I may prefer it but right now for my type of shooting (target paper, steel, PPC, and Tactical Pistol matches) I like the X5 a bit better. The SIG trigger is just more similar to my other firearms. If I were running and gunning and the shortest possible reset and lightest trigger were needed to be competitive the TS would be perfect out of the box.

At 15 yards I found the X5 a bit easier to hold on target than my TS (see below). With the Hogue grips it just feels better in my hand. It's only a couple ounces heavier and the sight radius is a little shorter but for me it was a little easier to hold on target. That said, I'm still working on fundamentals and a better shooter could take my TS and shrink my 15 yd group by 2/3.

The fit and finish of the X5 is rock solid. It just feels like a quality pistol in all respects. After handling it, field stripping it, and shooting it I understand why they command the price that they do.

The X5 is everything that I hoped it would be and the TS continues to impress. The TS may be the best gun available for the money and I'd say the X5 Comps are worth the money all day long. It's going to be some fun getting familiar with and breaking in these new guns.

I shot 200+ rounds total through both guns today at 7, 11, and 15 yards. Mostly slow fire but picked the pace up up a bit at 11 yards. No failures with either gun. I shot Federal and FM Blaster 115 gr. and when I moved out to 15 yards I was having so much fun I shot a full box of ammo at each target.







X5 My first 20 rounds @ 7 yards




X5 15 rounds @ 7 yards




CZ 15 rounds @ 7 yards





X5 15 rounds @ 11 yards




X5 15 rounds @ 11 yards




CZ 15 rounds @ 11 yards




X5 50 rounds @ 15 yards




CZ 50 rounds @ 15 yards

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Old 09-12-2015, 5:46 PM
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Nice shooting !
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Good shooting! That poor paper never stood a chance
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Excellent grouping OP!
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Fancy gun you got there... awesome shooting
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Awesome report. Now I have another gun to add to my want list.
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Old 09-12-2015, 7:31 PM
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Thanks for the pics and for the report. Enjoy your guns more!
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Nice report! Now I really have a hard time choosing haha
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Well done.
Nice shooting and very good for first time out
Get use to the X5 and it will impress you.
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Old 09-13-2015, 8:01 AM
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Bravo...Bravo!!!
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Great shooting op. TS will settle to a sub 2lb trigger pull once the gun is fairly broken in.
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:36 AM
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That's some great shooting and nice guns!
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Old 09-13-2015, 1:13 PM
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Well done.
Nice shooting and very good for first time out
Get use to the X5 and it will impress you.

Color me impressed. It took about 3 mags.



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Great shooting op. TS will settle to a sub 2lb trigger pull once the gun is fairly broken in.

I was planning on shooting the CZ exclusively for the next month or so to get familiar with it. Now that I have the X5 though it's going to be tough to leave it out of the bag. I know, first world problems, right.


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Old 09-13-2015, 1:33 PM
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Nice shooting ! Congrats! You are having the two 9mm range guns that are among the top. I am an X5 fan but I am very impressed with the TS 9mm as well. I shoots better group with the TS vs my X5 Comp. I think the TS is on par with my other X5's that has adjustable trigger . The stainless X5's look better and better great in your hands though.
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Those guns were specific built for IPSC/USPSA, try it some time.
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Nice report! Now I really have a hard time choosing haha

I would buy the CZ while still on roster and available. Even though I think the X5 is worth its price the CZ is a better value. Get the CZ now and keep an eye out for the X5.



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HopetonBrown Those guns were specific built for IPSC/USPSA, try it some time.
Yeah I've considered it. I've even taken the intro course at Concord. I know it's a lot of fun and will make me a better shooter but it's also a whole other level of practice, time, reloading, and $$. I shoot a monthly club Tactical Pistol match which is similar to IDPA (without the equipment restrictions) and it's a blast. Maybe in 2016 I'll dip my toes in the competitive action pistol waters.
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Nice shooting. Those are some fancy guns and nice shooting
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awesome groups
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Nice groupings, OP.
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Excellent groups
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Very nice, OP. Congrats and nice shooting.
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CZ Customs sells a modified SA trigger where they install a pre travel adjustment set screw in addition to the over travel that it comes with or a SAO flat trigger with both adjustments. I would also recommend the CZ (wide-lo) comp hammer to take the full width of the slide and frame notch while still clearing your rear LPA sight. The comp's hammer hook will improve your SA trigger pull.

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Thanks CAGLS, after I shoot it some more I'll look into to your upgrade suggestions.
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congrats, and thanks for the nice write-up.
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Your welcome, enjoy shooting those fine weapons.
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