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Old 05-16-2019, 6:18 PM
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How you like it? Is it as easy as the video??
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Old 05-16-2019, 6:29 PM
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Yes. I like it. Kind of a PITA to clear if your bolt does not close all the way, but that’s usually my fault for running my particular AR too dry.
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Old 05-16-2019, 6:33 PM
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I have 2 and they run great. Going to take them out tho as I am converting to featureless to enjoy some other parts purchased the first of the month
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.....first of April actually. Time is flying with so much fun now!!!
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Old 05-16-2019, 7:17 PM
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How you like it? Is it as easy as the video??
I have it, didn't install it myself. The bolt gets stuck on the mag if you shoot the last round. Gotta modify the magazines or leave one round in the mag before re loading. Yes it is as easy ro reload as the videos show. I don't know about installing it yourself.
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Old 05-16-2019, 8:31 PM
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Easy to install - yes
Easy to operate - yes
The complete kit has two components - the magazine release blocking device that replaces the bolt hold open, and the push button rear take-down pin. Each is an innovation in its own way.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:17 PM
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I have it, didn't install it myself. The bolt gets stuck on the mag if you shoot the last round. Gotta modify the magazines or leave one round in the mag before re loading. Yes it is as easy ro reload as the videos show. I don't know about installing it yourself.
I filed off a 'wedge' on some dedicated 10s. Now the bolt closes after the last shot.

I like it. Not as awkward as the first gen with my lower flapping around.

Yes easy to install if you ever built a lower.

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Old 05-17-2019, 6:29 AM
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.....first of April actually. Time is flying with so much fun now!!!
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Yes, time definitely flies when youíre having fun!
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I have it on two rifles and they work great. My only question is about absolute CA compliance. If you can still pull the trigger and drop the hammer, while the rear is popped open, have you actually disassembled/disabled the action? I know you can't cycle the bolt with the rear popped open but the trigger pull and hammer drop concerns me a little.
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I have it on two rifles and they work great. My only question is about absolute CA compliance. If you can still pull the trigger and drop the hammer, while the rear is popped open, have you actually disassembled/disabled the action? I know you can't cycle the bolt with the rear popped open but the trigger pull and hammer drop concerns me a little.
Been debated here over & over. Group A essentially feels that no matter what itís a no go, fine use something else....Group B essentially feels even if what you say is true you now basically have at most a single shot and would be ok. Fyi, I know a many LEOís that have it on their personal rifles, and feel they and everyone else are in 100% compliance. I agree.
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Old 05-21-2019, 2:04 PM
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Been debated here over & over. Group A essentially feels that no matter what itís a no go, fine use something else....Group B essentially feels even if what you say is true you now basically have at most a single shot and would be ok. Fyi, I know a many LEOís that have it on their personal rifles, and feel they and everyone else are in 100% compliance. I agree.
And if shops like Turners are selling rifles with them installed I doubt they would take the risk of it being non compliant. Yet another gray area.

All I have to do on both my rifles is change the grips, which I have for both already and go featureless. I just really like the pistol grip!
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Old 05-21-2019, 2:13 PM
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And if shops like Turners are selling rifles with them installed I doubt they would take the risk of it being non compliant. Yet another gray area.

All I have to do on both my rifles is change the grips, which I have for both already and go featureless. I just really like the pistol grip!
True on Turners, recently got a DTI with the kit installed from them. Also, X10000 on the pistol grip.
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I filed off a 'wedge' on some dedicated 10s. Now the bolt closes after the last shot.

I like it. Not as awkward as the first gen with my lower flapping around.

Yes easy to install if you ever built a lower.

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Haven't filed mine, yet. Seems like an easy quick fix.
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It's nice, Just be careful with that set screw lol, learned that the hard way.
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I bought a couple last year or so. They are kind of hokey. I think I'd rather go featureless after messing around with them.

I'll stick to pre-2000 RAWs for now.
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I bought a couple last year or so. They are kind of hokey. I think I'd rather go featureless after messing around with them.

I'll stick to pre-2000 RAWs for now.
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I hate mine.
I can't get my bolt to close with any of my magazines from 3 different brands. JT wanted me to file/sand etc until they worked.

Rifle is a DD v11pro and functioned perfectly as a bullet button gun. I've re-installed it twice and it just won't work right. Before i did anything I fully cleaned and lubed everything well to make sure the install went right.

Converting to featureless to use my standard cap mags and d60
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Once i got mine installed properly and figured out how the pins work ( instructions suck on the website) it works well on my ar pistol. I wouldnt mess with it on a regular AR. Featureless with the thordsen is far superior and you get 30+ rounds. But its great for a pistol ar.
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Love hate thing. Done featureless. Done mag locks. I think the hellfighter is by far the quickest option. My two complaints are its a great idea but it’s made too cheaply, and more importantly although not their fault you build muscle memory. I wasn’t happy going to a free state and trying to push the takedown pin instinctually before every mag change.
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A few of my buddies went this route. I shot the guns, the manipulation seemed awkward to me. They both ended up switching to featureless more user friendly and running standard capacity magazines.
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I use it in combination with a 333 tactical mag lock. Its very fast. I have seen it used with Hogue(need to drill lower) and AR mag lock and those are even a bit faster. Sure featureless is probably quicker for mag changes in general but if you train with hellfighter you can be very fast. I like to train with what I would use to defend myself. If you had your fin off your featureless and had an incident it could be an issue. Mine with the 333 tactical has last round bolt hold open still intact. FYI I was planning on going featurless but once I tried hellfighter I was sold.
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and chris at dual hammer (LAX range) tuned my kit. Its flawless with Pmags (2nd and 3rd gen)
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For those getting your bolt hung up, all you have to do is file a little bit(it doesn’t take much) off the back of the follower on your mags. I did like 10 mags in literally a couple minutes. It doesn’t affect function of the mags with a little of the back of the follower shaved down.
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EDIT... OOPS double post..
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I have it, didn't install it myself. The bolt gets stuck on the mag if you shoot the last round. Gotta modify the magazines or leave one round in the mag before re loading. Yes it is as easy ro reload as the videos show. I don't know about installing it yourself.
Discoverd this too... file the trailing edge of the mag follower.... solves the problem
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