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Intrafamilial Transfer from Father to Son for Armed Security Job?
Hello, new to calguns so bare with me if this question has been answered already. Well, first off, last month, I applied to be an Armed Security Officer and my father told me he would give me one of his pistols as a gift if I got the job. Fast forward to last week, I got the job. So my question is, under "How Possession Was Obtained" on the Intrafamilial Transfer form, would I say "Gift"? Or would I say "For Work"? Because my father told me he would like me to transfer it back once I can buy a handgun of my own. So technically it is more like I am borrowing his handgun longterm. Also, prior to the Intrafamilial Transfer, am I required to have my HSC first? Thank you all in advance for aiding me in all of this. By the way, I am 19 years old.
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Put down "gift". That's all they need to know.
Yes, you are required to have a HSC in order to legally receive the handgun. |
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Not part of the picture at all.
http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/27875.html See requirement e) |
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Nothing illegal about that.
Per CA and Federal laws, a person that is 18 years or older can legally own/possess a handgun. |
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Thank you for the replies. Yes I was told I can possess a handgun in my security guard certification class. I just can't purchase one is all But the replies are much appreciated. It shouldnt be long until I can use it on duty. Its not exactly my #1 choice of a handgun but it'll have to do for now. I don't believe they even make Jerichos anymore lol
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FYI.
Most security companies have policies that regulate what types of handguns and calibers they allow their armed guards to carry. So, depending on who you get hired on with, you may have to get a different handgun. |
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Yes, I have checked with my supervisor to make sure there aren't any regulations. But to my surprise, there are pretty damn lenient lol. I just HAVE to carry the caliber I was certified to use at the time I acquired my firearms certificate. Which is a 9mm btw. Nothing big.
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Haha that'd be swell.. but he's not THAT cool enough to do that. Our father-son relationship isn't too good I guess you could say. (complicated and won't explain further.)
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Oh btw, I made my first detainment on monday!!! kinda sucked though cuz I did not have my firearm on me at the time. But luckily the man listened to my demands and I was able to slap cuffs on him and hold him til the LEO's arrived.
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http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve
31700. (a) The following persons, properly identified, are exempted from the handgun safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615: (11) Any person who is authorized to carry loaded firearms pursuant to Section 26025 or 26030. 26030. (a) Section 25850 does not apply to any of the following who have been issued a certificate pursuant to subdivision (d): (1) Guards or messengers of common carriers, banks, and other financial institutions, while actually employed in and about the shipment, transportation, or delivery of any money, treasure, bullion, bonds, or other thing of value within this state. (2) Guards of contract carriers operating armored vehicles pursuant to California Highway Patrol and Public Utilities Commission authority, if they were hired prior to January 1, 1977. (3) Guards of contract carriers operating armored vehicles pursuant to California Highway Patrol and Public Utilities Commission authority, if they were hired on or after January 1, 1977, and they have completed a course in the carrying and use of firearms that meets the standards prescribed by the Department of Consumer Affairs. (4) Private investigators licensed pursuant to Chapter 11.3 (commencing with Section 7512) of Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, while acting within the course and scope of their employment. (5) Uniformed employees of private investigators licensed pursuant to Chapter 11.3 (commencing with Section 7512) of Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, while acting within the course and scope of their employment. (6) Private patrol operators licensed pursuant to Chapter 11.5 (commencing with Section 7580) of Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, while acting within the course and scope of their employment. (7) Uniformed employees of private patrol operators licensed pursuant to Chapter 11.5 (commencing with Section 7580) of Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, while acting within the course and scope of their employment. (8) Alarm company operators licensed pursuant to Chapter 11.6 (commencing with Section 7590) of Division 3 of the Business and Professions Code, while acting within the course and scope of their employment. (9) Uniformed security guards or night watch persons employed by any public agency, while acting within the scope and course of their employment. (10) Uniformed security guards, regularly employed and compensated in that capacity by persons engaged in any lawful business, and uniformed alarm agents employed by an alarm company operator, while actually engaged in protecting and preserving the property of their employers, or on duty or en route to or from their residences or their places of employment, and security guards and alarm agents en route to or from their residences or employer-required range training. (b) Nothing in paragraph (10) of subdivision (a) shall be construed to prohibit cities and counties from enacting ordinances requiring alarm agents to register their names. (c) A certificate under this section shall not be required of any person who is a peace officer, who has completed all training required by law for the exercise of the person's power as a peace officer, and who is employed while not on duty as a peace officer. (d) The Department of Consumer Affairs may issue a certificate to any person referred to in this section, upon notification by the school where the course was completed, that the person has successfully completed a course in the carrying and use of firearms and a course of training in the exercise of the powers of arrest, which meet the standards prescribed by the department pursuant to Section 7583.5 of the Business and Professions Code. Better double check with a lawyer before you take possession Last edited by Brianguy; 03-14-2013 at 2:56 AM.. |
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I'm sure that's not what you intended. |
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No need to even play that game. His father could buy him the gun he wants as a straight up gift.
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Yep, it's so common and legal that there is even a question on 4473s about it.
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The fact you don't know this, and your obvious attempt to cover your tracks, speak volumes. Cheers. JR |
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Just keep in mind that if your parent buys you a firearm as a gift, you can not pay/reimburse/give money to your parent for the firearm.
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We can't be trolls...I checked and there's no room under the bridge since you moved in. Now, where is that "ignore" button? Aha! Got it! |
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