What do you keep in your car if SHTF happens when you are away from home

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by danfinger

Knowing the boating community, there will be folks giving rides across the bay to Jack London square. It happened for Loma Prieta. It'll happen again.

Just a side note from older related threads: sometimes a poster will suggest hitting a marina and stealing a boat.

Turns out that lots of boat owners seem to be armed, and would resist that plan.

Paying for 'taxi service' would be a much better idea.

[Librarian]

One of the issues is 'how much has fallen apart?' Will there be power to run stores? Will there be people around, or will they have fled the stores? etc, etc. Planning to buy stuff inside the affected area seems a poor idea.

Originally Posted by ChuckD

As far as firearms go, get one of these (https://www.amazon.com/Gunvault-MV50...words=gunvault) and mount in a hidden location in your car, then stash mags and ammo in another location in the car. I think this is legal, if you say you transport it to go the range, but not sure of all bay area laws.

Same as the rest of CA - in a car, no destination requirements; ammo may be stored separate from or with the gun, so long as the gun itself is not loaded.

[CALI-gula]

Originally Posted by delta9

What do you keep in your car if SHTF happens when you are away from home?

Figuring all electronics will cease working, internet will be lost, car won't work either.... plenty of time to kill....

Porno-mags.



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[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Just a side note from older related threads: sometimes a poster will suggest hitting a marina and stealing a boat.

Turns out that lots of boat owners seem to be armed, and would resist that plan.

Paying for 'taxi service' would be a much better idea.

That didn't work out too well for the guys that tried to steal the Abigail.

[olhunter]

Nobody seems to prepare for the elements and the weight of your gear.

Get a few space-blankets. Good for rain/sun protection and will keep you warm.

Sort of.

Also get a big umbrella. Rain and sun protection.

And put a little, cheap stroller in your trunk. Hauling some of your gear and water in a little stroller is WAY easier than carrying it.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cosco-Umb...-Camo/49369031

All of these things take up very little space and are not expensive.

[kbenson]

Idea for those who travel to SF and are cut off from i.e Eat bay (bridge damaged)
Would an UN-inflated truck inner tube + cig lighter air compressor work? Use the tube to float across the bay with improvised oars

[dozer wright]

I actually got in this discussion at work Fri . The guy I was working with said his b.o.b included a stolen Motorcycle . In a Major earthquake San Francisco would be a nightmare. Getting accross the bay at noon is a 30 min deal if your lucky.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by olhunter

Nobody seems to prepare for the elements and the weight of your gear.

Get a few space-blankets. Good for rain/sun protection and will keep you warm.

Sort of.

Also get a big umbrella. Rain and sun protection.

And put a little, cheap stroller in your trunk. Hauling some of your gear and water in a little stroller is WAY easier than carrying it.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cosco-Umb...-Camo/49369031

All of these things take up very little space and are not expensive.

I personally would prefer https://www.walmart.com/ip/Easy-Whee...k-1ct/17688909 Easier to pull behind you.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by kbenson

Idea for those who travel to SF and are cut off from i.e Eat bay (bridge damaged)
Would an UN-inflated truck inner tube + cig lighter air compressor work? Use the tube to float across the bay with improvised oars

Might want this app on a waterproof phone - http://norcalcurrents.org/COCMP/currentmaps.html

[danfinger]

Originally Posted by kbenson

Idea for those who travel to SF and are cut off from i.e Eat bay (bridge damaged)
Would an UN-inflated truck inner tube + cig lighter air compressor work? Use the tube to float across the bay with improvised oars

If by 'work' you mean 'drown'. Then yes, that would work. If the tides didn't flush you out of the gate then the water temperature would send you into hypothermia before you got to Treasure Island. Then there's water traffic of some extremely large boats that wouldn't be looking for some knucklehead sculling across on an inner-tube.

[KrisDSA]

Originally Posted by delta9

I think I'm fairly well prepped at home if there is a SHTF/natural disaster event - having over a months worth of water, food, plenty of guns and ammo. My job is 17 miles away and across the SF Bay Bridge from my house. If there was a major earthquake or SHTF situation while at work, I might need to take a long and time consuming detour to get back home. Currently I try to never let the gas tank drop below 1/2 full, I have about a gallon of water, $100 cash in small bills, some energy bars and a 3 day pack of survival rations (also includes water), and a basic first aid kit. I'd love to keep a gun stored in my car but don't think it would be a great idea for long term storage.

What do you keep in your car?

I had a Glock 38 wrapped in a Remington oil wipe for 4 years without any problems in winter and summer. Oiled it every two months and swapped out ammo every three months.

[WMG]

Originally Posted by danfinger

If by 'work' you mean 'drown'. Then yes, that would work. If the tides didn't flush you out of the gate then the water temperature would send you into hypothermia before you got to Treasure Island. Then there's water traffic of some extremely large boats that wouldn't be looking for some knucklehead sculling across on an inner-tube.

I can't believe this ... I'm on a CA based web site ................ and no one has mentioned they would surf....................... my reality as I knew it is crashing all around me.

[WMG]

Originally Posted by wpod

My work takes me 1,500 miles from home each week.
My "get home bag" is geared towards multi-season wilderness scavaging and survival.
My main prep is for an EMP and have to hoof it.
At my current age and health I'll probably not make it, but I'll die trying.
"If" I'm able to continue in my truck (18-wheeler) I'd be set (if you've ever eaten in a restaurant, I've hauled the food you ate).
But if SHTF others will take the truck from me.
Water filter(s), fire starter(s), snares, take-down bow, NV monocular, 90+ days of prescriptions, first aid, multi-tool, machete,
Just a small sample. Other provisions for different situations stashed in the truck.

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I don't know how your rig is marked but maybe all you need is to carry a giant sign to put on the side that reads ...."Johnny's port a potties and infectious waste removal".
Might work.................

[wpod]

Originally Posted by kbenson

Idea for those who travel to SF and are cut off from i.e Eat bay (bridge damaged)
Would an UN-inflated truck inner tube + cig lighter air compressor work? Use the tube to float across the bay with improvised oars

Just ride a fairy.

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[Sunday]

Originally Posted by WMG

I can't believe this ... I'm on a CA based web site ................ and no one has mentioned they would surf....................... my reality as I knew it is crashing all around me.

No one mentions they voted for the anti gun politicians either.

[NATEWA]

Originally Posted by WMG

I can't believe this ... I'm on a CA based web site ................ and no one has mentioned they would surf....................... my reality as I knew it is crashing all around me.

Ha, ha - wetsuit in ghb. Don't forget a skateboard. After all, everyone in CA rides a skateboard or surfs.

In all seriousness - what about a skateboard or rollerblades to get around quicker in an urban environment? Electric scooter will get you a couple of miles. Maybe one of those bikes that fold up?

[WMG]

Originally Posted by NATEWA

Ha, ha - wetsuit in ghb. Don't forget a skateboard. After all, everyone in CA rides a skateboard or surfs.

In all seriousness - what about a skateboard or rollerblades to get around quicker in an urban environment? Electric scooter will get you a couple of miles. Maybe one of those bikes that fold up?

I wouldn't go there ...... a long time back there was the infamous guy who was talking about using a wheelbarrow.
If you've been on the net long enough ....... you know the story

[dozer wright]

Originally Posted by kbenson

Idea for those who travel to SF and are cut off from i.e Eat bay (bridge damaged)
Would an UN-inflated truck inner tube + cig lighter air compressor work? Use the tube to float across the bay with improvised oars

Even on a slack tiDE you would probably drown .

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by NATEWA

Ha, ha - wetsuit in ghb. Don't forget a skateboard. After all, everyone in CA rides a skateboard or surfs.

In all seriousness - what about a skateboard or rollerblades to get around quicker in an urban environment? Electric scooter will get you a couple of miles. Maybe one of those bikes that fold up?

Any of those should work -- in an environment where the streets and sidewalks are not covered with rubble.

[delta9]

No skateboards or roller blades for me - I haven't been on a skateboard since I was in high school and at my age of 48, would likely fall and break my neck. Walking the 90 miles around the bay would take at least 5 days and a lot of resources. If the Bay Bridge is impassable and I am unable to drive home, my plan is to stay with co-workers until I can find a boat ride across the bay to SF

[kbenson]

Originally Posted by dozer wright

Even on a slack tiDE you would probably drown .

While I realize currents + water temp + other watercraft are concern, I still think it "may" work.

What happens if the city is in complete anarchy? (yes it seems like it always is)
You either perish in the city or take your chances with the inner tube.

I would take a chance with the inner tube.

[packnrat]

well no car... but i do have a pu truck, a real off road Jeep. a klr 650.
so each is equipped as needed and i add or remove as needed. aka: i use products and replace with new products.
but jeep and truck 5 gallons water three days food. medical. tarp at min-max a tent. for shelter. tools for what ever comes up.
both have good sized metal boxes for holding repair supply's for each. and as i need.
my main use is to be able to get to my mom and get her to safety as needed.
all three can easily avoid many roads. the jeep can go most any place.(somebody wants to take it they will fail fast. as it has four shifters and a air switch on one of them)+(many switch's on the dash to confuse even a airline pilot).
and the bike can do foot paths up in the hills.
and the bike is emp safe.

[Cincinnatus]

Originally Posted by WMG

I don't know how your rig is marked but maybe all you need is to carry a giant sign to put on the side that reads ...."Johnny's port a potties and infectious waste removal".
Might work.................

Mo' bettah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU0d8kpybVg

To refine the idea further and with a bit less levity, two or more working to the same goal have a better chance of success. If traveling through hazardous areas, think of ways to have people avoid you. Moulage or something similar would be one solution.

[CandG]

Also keep the CA heat in mind. My car lives outside 90% of the time, and anything I keep in the trunk is going to be sitting in 130+ degrees frequently. Even in a cooler area like SF, the sun beating down on your trunk lid all day can make it an oven in there.

For that reason, I keep my essentials in my computer bag. Keeping my supplies to the bare minimum helps with that. I basically have:

-Water (A full wide-mouth 20oz water bottle, plus a lifestraw)
-A big lighter or 2
-battery charging stuff (cables, adapters, a rechargeable cell phone charger)
-a 2-way radio
-Flashlight
-50 or 100' of paracord
-a small kit with first aid essentials, safety pins, superglue, etc.

I already have my phone, a knife, a pistol and ammo, and cash in my pants, so not needed in my kit.

Perhaps most importantly, gas in the tank - try to avoid letting it slip below half a tank if you can. Not a bad idea to have an extra gallon in your trunk just in case. Check the pressure/condition of your spare tire monthly, and make sure you've got all the tools needed to do a tire change. And carry jumper cables and a trench tool, maybe even some plastic hose in case you need to siphon gas.

Don't worry about food, you can go weeks without it. You should be either home or already dead long before you need food. A healthy person should be able to walk from San Francisco to Reno with nothing but a steady water supply and a good pair of shoes.

[ElDub1950]

Originally Posted by delta9

I think I'm fairly well prepped at home if there is a SHTF/natural disaster event - having over a months worth of water, food, plenty of guns and ammo. My job is 17 miles away and across the SF Bay Bridge from my house. If there was a major earthquake or SHTF situation while at work, I might need to take a long and time consuming detour to get back home. Currently I try to never let the gas tank drop below 1/2 full, I have about a gallon of water, $100 cash in small bills, some energy bars and a 3 day pack of survival rations (also includes water), and a basic first aid kit. I'd love to keep a gun stored in my car but don't think it would be a great idea for long term storage.

What do you keep in your car?

For the scenario you're talking about there's a good chance you'll have to abandon your car. So you need a backpack to put your stuff in, and SHOES, good walking/hiking shoes.

[oddjob]

Toilet paper!! In a Zip Lock baggie!!

[madland]

Originally Posted by oddjob

Toilet paper!! In a Zip Lock baggie!!

NO! NO! NO!


I don't understand why people continuously say to pack TP. (No offense to the above poster either)

Try this. Take a big handful of TP and soak it with water. Wring it out. How useful is it? Does it come apart easily where you can use it without a problem? Hmmmmm...not so much.

Now take 10 baby wipes. Soak them with water. Wring them out. Do they pull apart and can you use a few to handle your bathroom needs? BINGO!!

But I do keep them in a Ziploc bag to help keep the moisture in there. And if they do dry out you can still use them, or wet them a bit and use as needed.

My .02 YMMV

[CandG]

Originally Posted by madland

NO! NO! NO!


I don't understand why people continuously say to pack TP. (No offense to the above poster either)

Try this. Take a big handful of TP and soak it with water. Wring it out. How useful is it? Does it come apart easily where you can use it without a problem? Hmmmmm...not so much.

Now take 10 baby wipes. Soak them with water. Wring them out. Do they pull apart and can you use a few to handle your bathroom needs? BINGO!!

But I do keep them in a Ziploc bag to help keep the moisture in there. And if they do dry out you can still use them, or wet them a bit and use as needed.

My .02 YMMV

Poison oak is free, and plentiful.

[MarinRange42]

The get home bags are simple. I keep one large non frame hiking pack with oversized pocket and two additional backpacks within it (have family). Try to keep it simple with 100ft 550 cord x2, water filter straws x2, one large water filter, cree rechargable flashlight, small solar usb charger and car battery clamps to cigarette lighter socket adapter, cigarette lighter to 120v adapter. Extra layers bottoms and tops for everyone. Poncho's. Emergency lightsticks and a cut down strip of 9v battery operated led lights strip 3ft. One day of water. Two emergency two way radio's. One UHF/VHF radio. Multitool. Crowbar. N90 filter masks. Latex gloves. Large zip ties. Signal Mirror. Compass. Siphon tube. One of the backpacks holds a water bladder. Huge med kit.

It's not going to be a good day if we have to abandon vehicle without good shoes, but space limited I axed them from the list. I am rarely more than a two day hike from home base. I truly believe that people will take the needy in and or help them, so thus the smaller pack options.

[CandG]

Originally Posted by MarinRange42

The get home bags are simple. I keep one large non frame hiking pack with oversized pocket and two additional backpacks within it (have family). Try to keep it simple with 100ft 550 cord x2, water filter straws x2, one large water filter, cree rechargable flashlight, small solar usb charger and car battery clamps to cigarette lighter socket adapter, cigarette lighter to 120v adapter. Extra layers bottoms and tops for everyone. Poncho's. Emergency lightsticks and a cut down strip of 9v battery operated led lights strip 3ft. One day of water. Two emergency two way radio's. One UHF/VHF radio. Multitool. Crowbar. N90 filter masks. Latex gloves. Large zip ties. Signal Mirror. Compass. Siphon tube. One of the backpacks holds a water bladder. Huge med kit.

It's not going to be a good day if we have to abandon vehicle without good shoes, but space limited I axed them from the list. I am rarely more than a two day hike from home base. I truly believe that people will take the needy in and or help them, so thus the smaller pack options.

Your kit sounds good. Only thing I would suggest adding is some basic hand tools, even though you have a multitool in there. Doing car repairs with a multitool is often impossible. You won't even be able to reach 95% of the screws with that short, oddly shaped handle, and even if you can reach it it probably won't be the right tool. A basic screwdriver set with flat/allan/hex/torx/socket bits, as well as some vice grips, nippers, superglue, silicone, electrical tape, and probably a few other things that escape me at the moment, will be a lifesaver if you need to do any simple car repairs. Aside from suspension repairs or pulling an engine out, those tools listed should allow you to do pretty much anything, aside from sourcing replacement parts, which obviously you can't predict what will break and carry extras for the most part unfortunately. But next time you have to do a simple car repair, try doing it using only the stuff in your GHB currently, and you'll see what I mean.

[MarinRange42]

Thx, will do!

[epilepticninja]

Water, food, survival gear, ammo, mags, knife, bazooka.

[Cokebottle]

Originally Posted by Saym14

wow you have an impossible trek if you are at work and SHTF. good luck

Pretty much.

Any holiday Friday drive home is just 10% of what will happen when SHTF at 2pm.

Nobody is going anywhere in a motor vehicle.


Now think of a very plausible SHTF scenario in LA... a scenario that will not take down communications or local government once power is restored....

A major quake on the San Andreas anywhere from Salton Sea to Ft. Tejon has the potential to simultaneously sever I-5, I-14, SR138, I-15, I-10/SR-60... and if the rupture is south of San Bernardino, SR-74/78 and I-8... north it may take out 101, but 101 does not actually cross the fault... all of the other highways do.

Effectively severing all transportation and rail service from Kern County to Mexico.

The 1857 Ft Tejon quake (which was actually centered near Parkfield) created a surface rupture that ran from Parkfield to Wrightwood.
Literally a 200 mile long zipper opened up and moved.

A similar rupture near Salton Sea will obliterate San Bernardino and Highland... the faults runs under the foothills and follows 215 up into Devore.

[CandG]

Originally Posted by Cokebottle

Pretty much.

Any holiday Friday drive home is just 10% of what will happen when SHTF at 2pm.

Nobody is going anywhere in a motor vehicle.

Thankfully I live nowhere near the bay. If I did, I'd have rollerblades in my car all the time for sure. Heck, half the time it would be faster for me to get home in a non-SHTF normal day using them.

[Bill Carson]

More than I want to share in a public forum.

[Cokebottle]

Originally Posted by Bill Carson

More than I want to share in a public forum.

LOL

Ditto.

Mine also includes a bright orange windbreaker large enough to wear over any jacket I may be wearing.

My thoughts when assembling my pack were along the lines of "I'm driving to Big Bear and a slide takes me off the road and I'm stuck in a canyon."
How can I best treat injuries, weather the elements, secure water, and make myself visible to search parties.

[teotwaki]

For local use I have a large Camelbak with 3 liters of water and some basics to help me through a 10 mile walk home. The "basics" include a multitool, local street map, 10 meters of 8mm rope, small pair of binoculars, dust masks, gloves, small compass, hat, spare sunglasses, folding knife, fixed blade knife, LifeStraw water filter and basic first aid. I also have a pair of used hiking boots and a Goretex jacket in the truck.

[CandG]

Originally Posted by teotwaki

For local use I have a large Camelbak with 3 liters of water and some basics to help me through a 10 mile walk home. The "basics" include a multitool, local street map, 10 meters of 8mm rope, small pair of binoculars, dust masks, gloves, small compass, hat, spare sunglasses, folding knife, fixed blade knife, LifeStraw water filter and basic first aid. I also have a pair of used hiking boots and a Goretex jacket in the truck.

Dust masks, that's something I didn't think of, good idea.

[omega]

You could take a man's motorcycle like Rambo does in First Blood


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrq3eTfvtZw

[Muleskinner]

Don't forget eye protection. I have defended my house during a wildfire and greatly appreciated some inexpensive goggles to keep ashes from my eyes.
Ditto on the dust masks