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Old 08-24-2019, 5:45 PM
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I'm thinking of changing my Sig P226 from 40 to 9mm. Any legal issues with doing this? I would not think so but wanted to ask my fellow Calgunners. All responses are appreciated.
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I'm thinking of changing my Sig P226 from 40 to 9mm. Any legal issues with doing this? I would not think so but wanted to ask my fellow Calgunners. All responses are appreciated.
Caliber change is not (yet) a criminal action. All you have to do is to drop-in a custom barrel or the entire slide (SIG has the X-Change kit).
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Old 08-24-2019, 6:17 PM
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Awesome. Thanks for the reply.
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Caliber change is not (yet) a criminal action. All you have to do is to drop-in a custom barrel or the entire slide (SIG has the X-Change kit).
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No legal issues, but Sig does not sell the conversion kit to California residents.
The kits come with a regular capacity magazine so they won't sell it here.
I asked if they could send me the kit with a 10 round magazine replacement and they refused.
They also state that the standard 9mm barrel will not convert a 40/357 pistol.
I have read that it will work with a standard Sig 226 9mm barrel but you might need to change to 9mm magazines and 9mm recoil spring.
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There are companies that sell 40 to 9mm conversion barrels. That is all you need along with 9mm magazines.

For the best, check out Bar-sto and for good quality check out EFK Firedragon. Its very simple, the latter is drop in and you're done.

The barrel is specifically designed to accomplish what you are looking for.
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No legal issues, but Sig does not sell the conversion kit to California residents.
The kits come with a regular capacity magazine so they won't sell it here.
I asked if they could send me the kit with a 10 round magazine replacement and they refused.
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Caliber change is not (yet) a criminal action. All you have to do is to drop-in a custom barrel or the entire slide (SIG has the X-Change kit).
Not true. I have a 226 in 40cal. All I did was drop in a new/used factory 9mm barrel, 9mm recoil spring and 9mm mag. Over 500rds on factory 10rd and standard capacity mags. Not one single hiccup.

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https://www.osagecountyguns.com/sig-...-kit-15rd.html

I've asked Osage to exchange the 15 round mag for a 10 round mag when I called them directly, and they did.
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I have a couple of Barsto Sig conversion barrels that are good, one needed a little fitting:

https://www.barsto.com/category_main.cfm?ID=SSB
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https://www.osagecountyguns.com/sig-...-kit-15rd.html

I've asked Osage to exchange the 15 round mag for a 10 round mag when I called them directly, and they did.
goodguys! i've seen them post here in the past.
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I have a buddy who did the same and it's working fine. I thought there would be a rattle or loose fit but when I checked his pistol, the 9mm barrel drops in perfectly. Like it was made to fit his 40 slide. I've heard there could be issues with the extractor, but his is fine. I know Sig makes the short and long extractors so this might be the issue.
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Not true. I have a 226 in 40cal. All I did was drop in a new/used factory 9mm barrel, 9mm recoil spring and 9mm mag. Over 500rds on factory 10rd and standard capacity mags. Not one single hiccup.

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Not true. I have a 226 in 40cal. All I did was drop in a new/used factory 9mm barrel, 9mm recoil spring and 9mm mag. Over 500rds on factory 10rd and standard capacity mags. Not one single hiccup.

See file attachment.
Sig factory 9mm barrel is slimmer than .40 barrel. 9mm barrel will work in .40 slide, but the accuracy will suffer.
Custom 9mm barrels have thicker outer diameter to fit .40 Sig slide.

Just to prevent the pointless discussions, I have both slides and tested both OEM barrels.
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No legal issues, but Sig does not sell the conversion kit to California residents.
There are quite a few x-change kits CALX-226-9-BSS-10 left of the market. Like others pointed out, Osage seem to have it
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There is no reason to buy a conversion kit when a 40 to 9mm conversion barrel will do just fine. What you cannot do is buy a straight 9mm barrel and expect it to work.
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There is no reason to buy a conversion kit when a 40 to 9mm conversion barrel will do just fine. What you cannot do is buy a straight 9mm barrel and expect it to work.
That'll work, however the recoil spring in .40 is significantly more sturdy than 9mm. I am not sure if low-recoil JHP will function well, but it's probably a very rare scenario. I didn't test it personally
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That'll work, however the recoil spring in .40 is significantly more sturdy than 9mm. I am not sure if low-recoil JHP will function well, but it's probably a very rare scenario. I didn't test it personally
Yes, I should have mentioned the change in recoil spring, but that is still a lot cheaper than a whole new conversion kit slide/barrel.
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Yes, I should have mentioned the change in recoil spring, but that is still a lot cheaper than a whole new conversion kit slide/barrel.
This is absolutely true
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No legal issues, but Sig does not sell the conversion kit to California residents.
The kits come with a regular capacity magazine so they won't sell it here.
I asked if they could send me the kit with a 10 round magazine replacement and they refused.
They also state that the standard 9mm barrel will not convert a 40/357 pistol.
I have read that it will work with a standard Sig 226 9mm barrel but you might need to change to 9mm magazines and 9mm recoil spring.
All you have to do is call the SIG PROSHOP and they will sell you a xchange kit with a 10 round mag.
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Sig factory 9mm barrel is slimmer than .40 barrel. 9mm barrel will work in .40 slide, but the accuracy will suffer.
Custom 9mm barrels have thicker outer diameter to fit .40 Sig slide.

Just to prevent the pointless discussions, I have both slides and tested both OEM barrels.
I don't have 226, but I have a 239 in .40 and researched this question a lot for it. I think rrider has the right answer. I ended up just getting a stock 9mm barrel. Most of the time I use it in a .357 Sig slide (same internal dimensions as .40 slide). That way I can keep the 9 mm spring in that slide all the time and just switch slides when I want to shoot 9mm out of it. I don't shoot .357 Sig much but I like having one gun that can run all three calibers.

It started because I didn't have much in 9mm for my kids to shoot at the time. The Beretta was a bit bit for them. I forget the exact measurements, but I found on the web pictures where guys had put a digital caliper on the factory 9 mm barrel and the conversion barrel as well as the slides and, for the 239, it was exactly as rrider says. The factory 9mm barrel works, but you are introducing more play into the action which will hurt accuracy. I wouldn't do it for any gun intended for social work.
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Sig factory 9mm barrel is slimmer than .40 barrel. 9mm barrel will work in .40 slide, but the accuracy will suffer.
Custom 9mm barrels have thicker outer diameter to fit .40 Sig slide.

Just to prevent the pointless discussions, I have both slides and tested both OEM barrels.
Just mic'ed both my 9mm and 40 factory barrels with a digital calipers.
Both measured at 0.536 in.

SAME diameter.

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We can swap a 10rd magazine for you in a CALX kit. Just give us a call.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0HKlPdbVn8

Here's a video of a guy shooting his P226 in .40 and .357, then swapping in the 9mm barrel. He has some failures with the .40 recoil spring, then later goes to the 9mm RS and it's fine. He even uses the .40 cal magazines (he says the 15rd .40 hold 20 9mm). I'd say just try the bar-sto barrel and recoil spring and see how well it works. I'm still kicking around the idea, just have other things I'm throwing my money at.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0HKlPdbVn8

Here's a video of a guy shooting his P226 in .40 and .357, then swapping in the 9mm barrel. He has some failures with the .40 recoil spring, then later goes to the 9mm RS and it's fine. He even uses the .40 cal magazines (he says the 15rd .40 hold 20 9mm). I'd say just try the bar-sto barrel and recoil spring and see how well it works. I'm still kicking around the idea, just have other things I'm throwing my money at.
i wonder if using 9mm magazine could have improved the reliability of the conversion insttead of stickning with .40 mags.
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i wonder if using 9mm magazine could have improved the reliability of the conversion insttead of stickning with .40 mags.
Here's part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8g1ccz0MU

He has the 9mm recoil spring and uses the .40 mags mostly without issue. When he gets home, he shows you the mag causing problems needed a new spring so should work just fine with a good spring.

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I have found the same thing. Both diameters at .531 inch (my dig caliper might be off) I've heard the only difference is in the barrel hood with the 40 hood being a bit longer. It does appear to be longer from the last time I looked.
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Just mic'ed both my 9mm and 40 factory barrels with a digital calipers.
Both measured at 0.536 in.

SAME diameter.
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I have found the same thing. Both diameters at .531 inch (my dig caliper might be off) I've heard the only difference is in the barrel hood with the 40 hood being a bit longer. It does appear to be longer from the last time I looked.
No need for an exchange kit or conversion barrel.

9mm stock barrel, 9mm recoil spring and a 9mm mag. That's all you need.
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I don't think it is so much the width of the barrel that differs but the width of the barrel extension/hood ( the part that mates with the breech face) is a little more narrow on the 9mm than the 0.40.

From what I hear it doesn't make too much a difference because the externally the hood still locks up fine on both 9mm and 0.40.

If anything your point of impact may change slightly since the 9mm and 0.40 use different front posts. One uses a #6 and another uses a #8. I forget which one uses which one.
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I don't think it is so much the width of the barrel that differs but the width of the barrel extension/hood ( the part that mates with the breech face) is a little more narrow on the 9mm than the 0.40.

From what I hear it doesn't make too much a difference because the externally the hood still locks up fine on both 9mm and 0.40.

If anything your point of impact may change slightly since the 9mm and 0.40 use different front posts. One uses a #6 and another uses a #8. I forget which one uses which one.
I'm hitting the shooting range next Mon. I'll shoot my 226 in 9mm. I'll make a note on POI vs POA.
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I don't think it is so much the width of the barrel that differs but the width of the barrel extension/hood ( the part that mates with the breech face) is a little more narrow on the 9mm than the 0.40.

From what I hear it doesn't make too much a difference because the externally the hood still locks up fine on both 9mm and 0.40.

If anything your point of impact may change slightly since the 9mm and 0.40 use different front posts. One uses a #6 and another uses a #8. I forget which one uses which one.
.40 should be #6 up front and 9mm #8 up front. Both use #8 rear.
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Sounds good. I'm waiting on recoil spring and mag
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No need for an exchange kit or conversion barrel.

9mm stock barrel, 9mm recoil spring and a 9mm mag. That's all you need.
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Here's part 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX8g1ccz0MU

He has the 9mm recoil spring and uses the .40 mags mostly without issue. When he gets home, he shows you the mag causing problems needed a new spring so should work just fine with a good spring.
thank you for both links. i'm a .40 guy and just thinking ahead of cheapest conversion that will retain its reliability. knowing that with age, hands strength diminish and arthritis becomes more an issue.
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I'm curious if the .40 mags would be consistently reliable long term. I have some of the 15rd mags, but that video is all I've seen of the 9mm in .40 mags and it's a small sample size.
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i have reservation using .40 mags because of bullet size difference. if you can fit 5 extra rounds in it then it changes the inner workings not to mention the magazine's lips that are designed to hold .40. even though it works during his demonstration, i'll just get me a dedicated 9mm mags. that's just my opinion though.
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i have reservation using .40 mags because of bullet size difference. if you can fit 5 extra rounds in it then it changes the inner workings not to mention the magazine's lips that are designed to hold .40. even though it works during his demonstration, i'll just get me a dedicated 9mm mags. that's just my opinion though.
Ya if using for anything other than range I'd go 9mm mags, too, Murphy's Law and all.
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agree! just keep the .40 mags for range and good for practicing ftf and fte.
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Back from the range.

POI 2-3inches below POA @ 7yds. 9mm barrel in a 40 slide.
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.40 should be #6 up front and 9mm #8 up front. Both use #8 rear.
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Back from the range.

POI 2-3inches below POA @ 7yds. 9mm barrel in a 40 slide.
make sense and consistent with the set sights for factory 9mm and .40 slide.

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9mm works out of .40SW mags. I have known people who have changed to a 9mm follower, but I didn't bother and have shot IDPA matches like this without any problems.

Now I wouldn't recommend doing this for SD/HD use, but for range work or games, give it a try.
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