|
Hunting and Fishing Rifle, Shotgun, Handgun, Archery, Blackpowder Saltwater and Fresh Water |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#122
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Quote:
I doubt he is. He's up here in Norcal near me and BWO is down in socal or the coastal region. |
#123
|
||||
|
||||
Bitterwater Outdoors. Or you could probably come up with a catchy jingle like "Bullet World Order".
|
#124
|
||||
|
||||
I can tell you that you get the blunt treatment because so many people try to make friends so that they can get free access to hunt or some other freebie. And you went for an exotic animal not a free roaming wild pig, you should have known that the guides don't run around in the field looking for a wildebeest, they know where they are took you right to them.
|
#125
|
||||
|
||||
@bullelk. I concur that hours in the range equal confidence n the field. Sadly, in that instance I was not able to accomplish range time before the hunt. But once again, when I talked to the owner of BWO, he mentioned his range and since the hunt wouldnt start until Sat, I figured I had all of Friday afternoon to zero. Wishful thinking on my part.
So lessons learned. New scope, new rfile, old scope, old rifle. Zero before going and don' rely on anything else.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#126
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Anyways, as for the exotic. Yeah, it was my first time, I had no idea what to expect. That being said, there was a guy next to me, who went for a pig. The acted animals acted the same, in that when the guy shot and missed the pigs/hogs barely moved.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#127
|
||||
|
||||
BWO---> BITTERWATER OUTFITTERS
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#128
|
|||
|
|||
This (if the OP is still around or other beginners are reading this thread to learn something).
Andrew and Ethan are great guys, and they will work hard to get you on a pig without making you feel stressed or rushed. If you told them that you needed to zero your rifle, they'd direct you to their range located right next to their cabins. A hunt with them is a fun, fairly laid-back (as pig hunting goes) experience. OTOH, someone like Tom Willoughby Sr. is much more intense, and he might just yell in your ear, but he WILL get you on a hog. That's just a given. The rest would be up to you. With most outfitters, their obligation is only to get you one reasonable opportunity to shoot a pig, not to keep finding more pigs and to let you keep shooting until you happen to put one down. Oh, and as others have pointed out, even though you're paying for the hunt, it is your responsibility to show up prepared the moment you step out of your vehicle - and that minimally means with a rifle that's sighted in and GTG (we typically show up on a Friday evening wearing our hunting clothes and boots, binos on our chests, ammo in our pockets, and our packs ready, including liquids and food). The way the guide sees it, he's just wasting his weekend and the gas in his truck dragging you around a ranch, only to have to hand over a refund if you screw up. Look at it this way, by the time you show up, the guides have likely put some time in scouting the area, and if they've located some pigs, they're going to want to go after them - like right NOW. I would, too. Not tomorrow morning, when who knows where the animals have moved to? BTW, I'm not defending BWO, as I have no experience with them. |
#129
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
I've heard great things about TWISSELMAN's. Hopefully spring 2015.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#130
|
|||
|
|||
Well, we just had a 2 day hunting class experience with BWO and thought it was overall really well done. That said, we were hoping for a little more of a "hunt" in the brush or something where it was a little more of a challenge.
Our guide "Randy" did take us around and imparted quite a bit of wisdom and knowledge, while pointing out some horned sheep that would've been more of a challenge to shoot. We just had our hearts set on pork for the freezer. Plus if I were going to go for horns, which I really wanted. I would've taken the head as well and that would've commanded a taxidermist, which was a little to much out of my pocket for the moment. Let someone else get the horns and head who can financially handle it instead, because they're to beautiful to waste. Overall, I've read quite a few opinions and there are parts that I agree with and parts that I don't throughout this thread. My buddy and I feel that people should do their research and know what they're getting into, before doing it. I would recommend this place to anyone who is looking for a good first shoot. It may not be the caveman hunt that some are looking for, but it was very informative and our guide was top notch. There's always room for improvement even with the most established places. I'm not sure about the cost angle on this trip yet, but our guide certainly made us feel better about our purchase. There's no one day class that's going to teach you everything you need to know about hunting. It's just not going to happen and we understand that now more than every before. If you want to learn how to shoot right, learn some basics about tracking and field dressing as well as processing... this is one hell of an experience. If you're looking to grab a spear and take on a wild boar while jumping out of a tree, then this is not the place. I hope this place expands their service offerings. Here's the case and point. You've just parked your car and have only humped in to the wild a short distance. You stumble upon your trophy on the first day of a ten day trip and you have only one tag. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO PASS IT UP? Last edited by solver2; 03-23-2015 at 1:56 PM.. |
#131
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller Ventura County approved CCW Instructor Utah CCW Instructor Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners. CCW SAFE MEMBERSHIPS HERE KM6WLV |
#132
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
|
#133
|
|||
|
|||
80% of what OP said in first post is BS. I love how a guy can talk **** on a forum and get almost everyone to believe him. Its almost like listening to Obama talk. I talked with Matt and Clayton several times about this guy and his version of the story is way off base. I've hunted with Clayton for many years now and will continue to for many more.
|
#134
|
||||
|
||||
Isn't this dead???
I want out......it was lame then and now.....so you didn't come prepared and you didn't get along............get the f k over it and move on.......someone put a target on this and give me a 6 second burst...... |
#135
|
|||
|
|||
Apparently not.
__________________
Quote:
Quote:
|
#136
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#137
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Im glad they stepped their game up. Its great that you had a good experience. Maybe I will try them again.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#138
|
|||
|
|||
This +1000. Nothing more than a petting zoo with some over paid outfit almost aiming your rifle for you. What a joke.
__________________
Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words. |
#139
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
Pretty sure you wouldn't be welcomed back the way you run your mouth. |
#140
|
|||
|
|||
After dragging their business threw the mud on here it's probably best you never step a foot on that place for you own safety.
__________________
Quote:
Quote:
|
#141
|
||||
|
||||
^^^serious. Companies I've worked for have done way worse and actually illegal things but I don't use the net to talk about it. Like jack rabbits... leave em lay.
__________________
Quote:
|
#142
|
||||
|
||||
Are you implying that they are that unprofessional that would harm a customer? Hmm, not surprised, guess things haven't changed. Better for everyone to avoid then.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#143
|
||||
|
||||
Why are you bumping a 3 year old thread? If you want a great central coast guided pig hunt call hog canyon outfitters. No rush and when I didn't bag a pig on my three day hunt (saw many, never got a good shot) they called me back a few weeks later when the hogs moved in heavy and I bagged a pig. No extra charge. Good people.
Last edited by deckhandmike; 11-02-2016 at 6:42 PM.. |
#144
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
#145
|
||||
|
||||
Hey guys, I just got back from my fourth hunt with Clayton. He is a stand up guy.
Over the last three years, we cast down after two of the most elusive big game animals in CA. Tule and barbary sheep. Trophy fee only, admittedly different from the OP hunt. I tried to press money into the the owner of BWO after each unsuccessful hunt - to cover gas and his time. He repeatedly turned me down. A deal was a deal, no money changed hands until after we were successful. We did take a tour of his Bitterwater ranch. No bones about what it was, high fence shoot. That kind of thing holds little interest for me, but everything was up front. We saw pigs, which is exactly as advertised. As my dad used to say, a good hunt doesn't need to be a long hunt. Seems the OP got exactly what he came for - props to all. |
#146
|
||||
|
||||
I'm sure Clayton is a good guide. Never said that he was not. Read my original report.
__________________
"You gotta pay to play" "I've traveled the world, seen the best and worst of humanity. I've learned that religion, race, ethnicity mean nothing when it comes to good vs evil men. I've seen good and bad among all types. As a result, I do not see race/color- I only see acu digital, od green and coyote brown". |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|