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Old 02-18-2019, 8:42 PM
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Default Problems Reloading for 50 Beowulf Pistol

10.5" Beowulf pistol doesnt cycle very strong with 34.2gr H-110 and 300gr Speer projectiles. Weak ejection. Brass would land at my feet.

Dry/hand cycling rounds worked great. Positive ejection at 4'oclock

In hopes to improve cycling, I tried Alexander Arms load data- middle of the road 36gr lil'gun with 300gr projectiles. Worse results. Won't even cycle. Spent case stove pipes and has all these powder burn marks on the outside.

My buddy said the burn marks were a sign of the case not sealing and all the gases blew by.

I am at a loss. What can I try next?
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Old 02-18-2019, 8:50 PM
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The lil gun works in my rifle. Good thumpin. I’m not sure what to tell ya. Haven’t played with a pistol
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Old 02-18-2019, 9:26 PM
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Are you using a magnum pistol primer?
Any visible unburnt powder in the area after firing?

Fresh (or known to be reliable) powder and primers?

Definitely looks like low pressure symptoms with those sooted cases.

Can you pull a bullet and verify the charge weight?

Wait a minute...it's probably a gas leak at the gas key/bcg interface.

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Old 02-19-2019, 4:21 AM
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I just looked at data from when I was loading these a few years ago. 325grn hp, 35.5-37.0 grn lil gun. These worked well in a rifle.
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Old 02-19-2019, 5:51 AM
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Lil gun works for me in my Beowulf pistol ( 36-36.5 gr.) What kind of upper is it? I hope its not a Radical Firearms. I tried an RF upper and had nothing but ejection issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT8nb24IZ3w

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Old 02-19-2019, 10:21 AM
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34.3 H-110 , CCI mag primer , 300 grain fmj .
But this is in a 50-DE .
Every thing I reload , I have the crimp set-up - wether it needs it or not .
Have you tried the plonk test / Put in a cartridge and turn gun upwards .
If cartridge does not fall out - look at crimp , then how it was / is sized .
I have at least 3 different 50 AE dies and Lee sizes better than others .
I am on a load master press and use all stations . So I need more than
one set of dies
De-Prime and prime off press .
One problem I had was some cases landed and bent in the base of case .
This did not allow the cartridge to seat properly .
I use a Lee hand loader to / as a OAL gauge .
Some shell holders don't allow sizing the full length of case .
In my case , I have both the 44-DE mag and 50AE - I keep the case
holders separate and have separate plate for each .
You can also use the case holder to check cases , But not the press plate
but I don't like having to spin the cases by hand to check them .
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Old 02-20-2019, 8:06 AM
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I don't shoot that. Your load data looks to be on the light side though, if you bounce against this (though I have no idea on the pistol vs rifle thing either):

https://blueridgebrass.com/forum/f/5...a-7b181efd59ce
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Old 02-21-2019, 7:09 AM
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I dailed it back for paper . Years ago when hunting pigs , a lot hotter .
I also added a sheet of 1/16 lead sheet to both sides of grips .
While not much , it does help with the " kick " .
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Old 02-24-2019, 7:58 PM
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I added more powder 1.2 more grains and a taper crimp. Ejects better bit still weak with smokey cases. This is a build from the ground up.
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If you are still in the middlin' range of published loading data, keep adding.
And keep in mind all the lawyers involved. Even the top end powder charges listed in published loading data is lower than it was decades ago.

All usual cautions about max pressure, using a chronograph, pressure signs, chamber pressures and max cup of your cartridge and your loadings.
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I'd start with the gas block if the response slowly got worse.
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I had a very similar problem. My issue was the magazine.
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This is one of the reasons I try to update reloading manuals every year .
With birthday and Xmas makes getting easier .
But unlike most - I have nephews and nieces that also reload here .
New powders and listing + what was safe recomended starting points .
What is printed is just a starting point .
A new load , start in middle - 5 rounds and go down .
Make notes for each gun .
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