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Old 02-08-2019, 7:57 AM
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Hi everyone, just a FNG seeking some clarity before submitting application to Orange county for CCW. Appreciate your knowledge, Ps., i had many more questions but already searched through pages of CCW forums here and found a lot of answers. Thanks in advance.

1. is ''good cause'' still a huge deciding factor? I need guidance here, private message me if you can help me determine a good cause? Thank you.
2. The pistol I currently own is not what I want to CCW. Is it simple to add a pistol after i've submitted the app? E.g., lets say I buy a CCW pistol 8 weeks after I apply...can I add it? Or should I just wait to apply until after I have the pistols I want to register? The truth is I want to apply now, but can't really afford to purchase the CCW pistol I want just yet, so it could be 6-10 weeks from now.
3. Are we required to take the CCW training BEFORE applying? Or just before they issue?
4. Is a character letter from an active duty LEO more helpful than from a friend of 30+ years?
5. I currently and actively volunteer at my local PD and was LiveScanned and background checked 2 years ago..is the LiveScan still valid?

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Oh my...so many "opinions" on what you "SHOULD do". LOL

Apply now. You can add additional firearms easily - just submit a form and qualify - easy-peasy. You'll likely have your permit within a month or so. If you get a new firearm after that you want to add it's about ten or fifteen bucks. The new qualifying for additional firearms has also been reduced - not as many rounds - you just have to demonstrate you can hit a target at close range - they don't want you running around with a loaded gun that you can't hit what you're shooting at. LOL

Good cause is their CYA in your file. Just make it about where the 'threat of grave bodily injury or death' lies in your daily rounds. There was a whole thread dedicated to this...probly find it in search. Mine and a few others were posted in entirety as examples. Once you have a draft you can PM some old-timers here for peer review. Remember, it's not about defending 'stuff', it's about defending for grave bodily injury or death, outside of your home.

While you CAN get training ahead it's not necessary - you can do it when they preliminarily approve your application. The classes are frequent and easy to register, there are even online options you can do instantly or on your own schedule. Mine was done within days and submitted.

You don't need a character reference. CA DOJ will vet you accordingly. You do need proof of residency, and they check, and your GCS by CA statute. They will even help you with your statement. If you cannot articulate your reason to carry they're not going to issue a permit.

They'll likely submit you for live scan anyway, I think those need to be done within a few months, 3 to 6 or something IIRC.


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Hi, I'm a self-employed I.T. professional and I'm thinking about applying for a CCW in OC. My good cause statement is that there are times where I have to visit client offices after hours and at times would have expensive computer equipment with me. What kind of supporting document would I need to upload to support this good cause statement? Or is this not good enough of a statement? Any help is appreciated.

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Photos of you with said equipment, copies of paid invoices showing after-hours billing would be what I'd provide first. If that's not sufficient, you'll likely be asked to provide additional details.
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Hi, I'm a self-employed I.T. professional and I'm thinking about applying for a CCW in OC. My good cause statement is that there are times where I have to visit client offices after hours and at times would have expensive computer equipment with me. What kind of supporting document would I need to upload to support this good cause statement? [...]
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Photos of you with said equipment, copies of paid invoices showing after-hours billing would be what I'd provide first. If that's not sufficient, you'll likely be asked to provide additional details.
I'm not sure about photos; most people probably couldn't identify expensive computer hardware by inspection. Since you are self-employed you might need to provide some evidence that you're not just making an empty claim. When a person works for a corporation or similar, a current paystub and employee ID are probably sufficient, but if you are self-employed, what can serve as a reasonable substitute? A business Web site, a business card naming you as the owner, maybe a tax return connecting you with the business? Others here who are self-employed can probably chime in.

You might want to emphasize that you have access to data, proprietary information, passwords, facilities, etc., that might be of interest to people looking to steal those things or commit other crimes by way of that access. Implying that a permit would be used to protect property is a slippery slope, and general self-defense isn't adequate, so you are "sailing" between those two unacceptable elements, if you will. Basically your business activity makes you a target for opportunistic criminals, like the pharmacist upthread.
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This is exactly the info I was seeking. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.




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You may want to get your edc weapon before you apply. What happens is you need to list your weapons on your application. Which needs to be turned in to start the process. You also want to have your training done very close to when you start the process. Because your application is basically on hold after your interview until the training is done. Then the time starts once that is turned in. Right now it looks like its about 2 months after they have all the proper paperwork that you possibly could receive your CCW. If you tested with a gun you werent planning on carrying you would have to retest after you get your CCW and add a weapon to the CCW. Hope this makes sense.


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Thank you, sir. I'm hoping so, too. I will certainly report back.


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Don't overthink it too much. OCSD wants to issue, they just need a reason to. If you can legally own a firearm, have one registered under your name, and volunteer at your local PD station and you can prove it if asked, I think your approval rate would be 99%. Then again there's always the 1%

GL and report back. Hope this helps.
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You WRITE it out as a statement.
The rest of all that you can provide if/when requested.

My statement is very similar - it's posted in full on the other thread - the GCS thread. No other documentation has ever been requested - just proof of employment, which is standard practice - they include your place of employment in your application file.
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Browneye,

Thank you for the info and good info. I may send you my GC statement for review, thanks in advance if you have time to vet it.

Will follow up here as things progress.

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Oh my...so many "opinions" on what you "SHOULD do". LOL

Apply now. You can add additional firearms easily - just submit a form and qualify - easy-peasy. You'll likely have your permit within a month or so. If you get a new firearm after that you want to add it's about ten or fifteen bucks. The new qualifying for additional firearms has also been reduced - not as many rounds - you just have to demonstrate you can hit a target at close range - they don't want you running around with a loaded gun that you can't hit what you're shooting at. LOL

Good cause is their CYA in your file. Just make it about where the 'threat of grave bodily injury or death' lies in your daily rounds. There was a whole thread dedicated to this...probly find it in search. Mine and a few others were posted in entirety as examples. Once you have a draft you can PM some old-timers here for peer review. Remember, it's not about defending 'stuff', it's about defending for grave bodily injury or death, outside of your home.

While you CAN get training ahead it's not necessary - you can do it when they preliminarily approve your application. The classes are frequent and easy to register, there are even online options you can do instantly or on your own schedule. Mine was done within days and submitted.

You don't need a character reference. CA DOJ will vet you accordingly. You do need proof of residency, and they check, and your GCS by CA statute. They will even help you with your statement. If you cannot articulate your reason to carry they're not going to issue a permit.

They'll likely submit you for live scan anyway, I think those need to be done within a few months, 3 to 6 or something IIRC.


Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Old 02-18-2019, 10:45 AM
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Thank you for the info and good info. I may send you my GC statement for review, thanks in advance if you have time to vet it.

Will follow up here as things progress.
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Hey Calgunners!
What's the best way to sell some guns on my ccw list?
Do I have to do the amendment first? or can I sell them first and then do an amendment?
Reason I ask is because I might be adding a couple of guns later this month and I don't want to be doing multiple amendments.
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I applied for my CCW 11/26/18 and got a interview on 11/28/19. I think the interview went well and I had to make some corrections because Turners in Pasadena wrote the serial number for my handgun incorrectly, then got the live scan and training done. It’s been about 3 months now and I’m wondering what the normal time frame to getting a ccw is?
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What's the best way to sell some guns on my ccw list?
Do I have to do the amendment first? or can I sell them first and then do an amendment?
Reason I ask is because I might be adding a couple of guns later this month and I don't want to be doing multiple amendments.
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You can drop your sold ones off your permit when you add your new ones.
There's nothing to stop you from selling a firearm that is on your carry permit. You just can't carry it anymore if you don't own it.
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:56 AM
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You can drop your sold ones off your permit when you add your new ones.

There's nothing to stop you from selling a firearm that is on your carry permit. You just can't carry it anymore if you don't own it.


Im not sure the above is correct. I could be wrong, but I dont think I am.

To my understanding, OCSD says if you are not the current registered owner of the firearm, you cannot have it on your CCW.


Just call them. Quick call Im sure.


But you can add and drop at the same time, then sell.

As opposed to having a firearm on your card, and not being the current owner.
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Im not sure the above is correct. I could be wrong, but I dont think I am.

To my understanding, OCSD says if you are not the current registered owner of the firearm, you cannot have it on your CCW.


Just call them. Quick call Im sure.


But you can add and drop at the same time, then sell.

As opposed to having a firearm on your card, and not being the current owner.
Makes sense to me. Easy phone call...
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Thanks everyone! I'll add and drop at the same time. Makes more sense this way.
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I applied for my CCW 11/26/18 and got a interview on 11/28/19. I think the interview went well and I had to make some corrections because Turners in Pasadena wrote the serial number for my handgun incorrectly, then got the live scan and training done. Its been about 3 months now and Im wondering what the normal time frame to getting a ccw is?
I applied for my CCW 01/01/19 and got a interview on 01/02/19 got the live scan and training done. Had any additional information and corrections done by 01/28/19
my status is still pending is this the regular wait time in Orange County? Are others having a similar experience?
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Second renewal

CCW expires: 4/10/2019

Renewal application sent: 1/28/2019
CCW Training: 2/12/2019
Additional documentation request; regarding good cause: 2/14/2019
Additional documentation sent: 2/14/2019
Additional documentation request; regarding employer: 2/21/2019
Additional documentation sent: 2/22/2019
Approval email: 2/28/2019

Will pick up after 4/1/2019
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I applied for my CCW 01/01/19 and got a interview on 01/02/19 got the live scan and training done. Had any additional information and corrections done by 01/28/19
my status is still pending is this the regular wait time in Orange County? Are others having a similar experience?
4 years ago when I applied I had to wait 6 months for my interview, so my standards are quite low. OCSD has made great improvements with their CCW process, but yes what you're experiencing is normal.
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Update. I got approval and actually picked up the license on 20th.
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Update.

Renewal time line:

License expires 3/22.

Submitted renewal packet, complete, with training certificate: 1/08/2019

Last go around, i submitted 90 days early but was not renewed until after my permit had expired.

Instant email acknowledging receipt of my packet.

Request for supporting documentation: 1/22/2019

Additional documentation provided: 1/22/2019

Acknowledgment of complete packet moving for final review: 1/23/2019

That email said i will hear back for pickup date closer to my expiry date.

This was my second renewal, hard to beleive its been 6 years with a permit. My first electronic renewal, and i am very happy with the new system.
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Update.

February 4 I got two emails and a robocall voice mail telling me to come pick up my permit. The last email was signed by a real human and had red writing instructing me to pick up any day after March 3, no appointment needed.

Thats less than 30 days for a renewal, folks.
Picked up today at about 1 p.m. no appointment, one other CG member was picking up at the same time. Fifteen minute drive from my office, i was gone for about 45 minutes. Everyone was polite and cheerful. ,

New permit effective 3/21.

Still says renew 90 days early. They are running way faster than that.

Also, new directive as of my pickup, ANY police interaction other than a wave js to be reported, including if you just get a warning, whihc they stated is a recent change.
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Just posting this for reference for others regarding amendments.

Wanted to add an off roster G43 that I had purchased a few months ago but was holding off as I was in the midst of moving from Buena Park to another city in Orange County.

Amendment request for the following items:
  • New physical address
  • Newer job description, company, and location (now in OC as well)
  • Added G43 to my ID

Submitted all necessary docs last night (3-10-19) at 10pm, received an email today at 3-11-19 stating my amendment was approved and I can pick up my updated CCW anytime.
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For my second renewal since its being done online. Do I wait for some kind of prelim approval before getting the training out of the way? Or just do it? I know it needs to get done anyways but I'm just curious about the online process.

Online renewal submitted and payed for on Feb 24 all docs uploaded no news since.

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For my second renewal since its being done online. Do I wait for some kind of prelim approval before getting the training out of the way? Or just do it? I know it needs to get done anyways but I'm just curious about the online process.

Online renewal submitted and payed for on Feb 24 all docs uploaded no news since.

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Your renewal is not considered complete until the training cert is sent to the ocsd

You will get a refund of the payment, they dont take payments online. Bring a paper check when you pick up your license.
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My CCW expires on 6/2/19. I tried to submit my renewal application on 3/8/19 and a message popped up on OCSD renewal site saying I must apply within 90 days for renewals and then forwarded me to the new license application site. I didn't count the exact number of days but isn't this within 90 days?
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I would call them or drop an email to them and ask. I may well be a counter of sorts haywire, or they changed it, or ??
Or just try it again in a couple of weeks. They're doing them in just a few weeks now, and appointments aren't even needed, you just walk in to pickup. The whole process has been streamlined.
Mine comes up this year too, but not 'till August.
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I would call them or drop an email to them and ask. I may well be a counter of sorts haywire, or they changed it, or ??
Or just try it again in a couple of weeks. They're doing them in just a few weeks now, and appointments aren't even needed, you just walk in to pickup. The whole process has been streamlined.
Mine comes up this year too, but not 'till August.

Thanks. I kinda figure it might've been a glitch. I'll try again later and if it happens again I'll call them.

Update: Just tried it again and it went through this time without incident. Received email. Already submitted my training cert. so will see if anything else is needed. The new renewal process is definitely an improvement from even just two years ago.
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My apologies...had to delete previous stupidity caused by being up all night with sick grandkids.

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Citadel--Thank you for that info, much appreciated.
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Im 22 and I want to apply for a ccw but want to know the process and the someone to review my good cause act
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Apply online (include good cause as an attachment as well as proof of residency)
Go in for an interview
Afterward you will get an "OK to proceed with your livescan and training
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Provide any add'l info. they may request of you
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Hi, I'm a self-employed I.T. professional and I'm thinking about applying for a CCW in OC. My good cause statement is that there are times where I have to visit client offices after hours and at times would have expensive computer equipment with me. What kind of supporting document would I need to upload to support this good cause statement? Or is this not good enough of a statement? Any help is appreciated.

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It's not so much about your equipment as it is about you.
You go at night - that's a start
Any sketchy neighborhoods?
Poorly lit parking lots where having your hands full makes you appear to be a target?
Places without security patrolling?

Take some time to flesh this risk out and be prepared to provide pictures.
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