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Santa Clara
UPDATE (2015 Aug 02): Per below, Santa Clara County SO is taking & holding apps w/"self-defense" as Good Cause pending finalization of Peruta.
To find out the status of Peruta, monitor this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=893452 Quote:
Last edited by Paladin; 08-13-2015 at 8:08 AM.. Reason: fixed link, removed dead link, changed smilie to Thumbs Up (for SOs taking & holding apps pending Peruta final) |
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Is there a list of cities that have declared (G)? I am particularly interested in Santa Clara (home) and Palo Alto (work). The front desk at SCPD was unable to answer the question - though that was a couple of months ago.
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The best information that I have is no city in SCC has declared (G). But that's just a rumor and I have no proof to back it up.
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It bothers me that the SO will disqualify people who have merely been arrested.
It also bothers me they are reviewing medical history as well. What is declared (G)? I searched for it, but things in () don't search well I think. |
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CAL. PEN. CODE § 12050(g) Quote:
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I'm looking forward to the list of accepted good cause statements for SC County. Is there anything I can do to help compile info?
What do the "right people" have to say about applying in Santa Clara County? Is it time to fill out paperwork or to eat a sandwich and take a nap?
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But I hear the "fee" is 5 digits, or is that a different county? I get so confused.
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About fifteen years ago, when I was a resident of Santa Clara County, I called the Sheriff's Office to ask about a CCW in total obliviousness.
I was transferred to a sergeant in Administration. He stated, in all apparent sincerity, that what I needed to do was to donate $5,000 to the sheriff's re-election campaign and then he would call me back after getting my name and phone number from them. Note: this was to a random caller on the phone. One suspects that they may have wised up since then. |
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The caveat is that I've heard rumors about impending litigation against SCCSO that might move things along faster. But I've been waiting all year for those rumors to amount to something, and so far it's a big, fat nada. For this reason, I'm assuming that it will be at least 3 - 4 years before an average citizen can reasonably hope to obtain a CCW from the SCCSO. Upshot: take the nap. If something changes, we'll wake you up.
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This is probably a stupid question that's been asked and answered many times but...
My step mother has a place in Meyers, can I get an ID in El Dorado county and apply for a CCW there even though my primary residence in here? I do spend a lot of time up there and there are bears and rattle snakes. If fact her place got broken into and torn apart by a bear last summer. Luckily no one was home at the time. I might even be able to get a "job" on paper there if that helps. |
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It all comes down to how the county defines "residency." I've heard (but have never confirmed) that some counties will issue you a CCW if you even so much as rent a place in the county. Other counties will send deputies to knock on your door, knock on your neighbor's door, etc, so as to determine whether you really live there.
What I would do is write to the El Dorado SO and ask them if they will issue CCWs to part time residents of the county, and what they require to show proof of residency. Most likely they won't issue to a part time resident, but it can't hurt to ask.
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It may be a while before SCC is cracked and allows CCW, but right now is a good time to hit them with the suits from an economic standpoint. They have a huge budget deficit and prolly cant finance a sustained or effective court fight.
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See, we normal people have to pay an attorney by the hour for his work. So whenever we need to do something in the legal system, it costs us a pretty penny. But doesn't each county have its own full-time counsel? If so, then they're being paid a salary, and the additional cost for them to go through litigation amounts to the various court costs involved. They're paying their counsel regardless, so "financing" an extended court battle is essentially trivial, right? On the other hand, if they lose the case then they have to pay the other side's costs, which will certainly be considerable, but as D.C. and Chicago have shown, the actual cost to them is essentially zip for a very extended period of time. I can't help but wonder, sometimes, if Gura, et al will wind up being paid at all...
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I was at the SJPD 8 years ago (paying a parking ticket) and I decided to ask about getting a CCW, they took my name and I waited for 45min to have some jerko*f come up to me, ask me why I wanted one & tell me that I would be better off not applying because I would just get denied!! I was pissed and asked him why, he said that the only people who get CCW's in San Jose were ret. police, diamond couriers, etc..
I was like WTF!!!!! I can't wait until the GC statements are posted, I'll be one of the first in line to apply!!!
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I'm not saying that SCC would hire an outside law firm in the event of a legal dispute over CCW issuance. But it is clearly within the realm of possibility that any given government entity will go to an outside firm, especially if they don't have the resources/expertise to successfully fight a particular lawsuit in-house. I keep wishing that SCCSO and the various PDs in the bay area would look at the way the wind is blowing, and decide to be reasonable. But I guess I've been living here too long, because I really don't expect any of them to be reasonable. This is going to be an interesting fight when it gets to be SCC's turn. I wonder if the Mercury News will actually cover it, or if they'll bury it. I am so looking forward to the coming entertainment.
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SC has an extensive legal department; however, I would highly suspect that any serious litigation would go to outside counsel.
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Updates?
I'm curious how long it takes to update the sponsorship page? Right now the status spreadsheet (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...rships-to-date) lists 18 sponsors, but only 15 names (including two anonymous) appear on the county information page (http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...31-santa-clara).
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Just curious how we plan to get the 'good cause' data. As far as I can tell, that information doesn't exist any longer.
The NRA in 03 wrote and got AB 1044 signed into law which would destroy the AG's CCW database and the good cause data..... |
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My reading of the bill (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/...chaptered.html) leads me to believe that it only prevented the AG from collecting that information from the counties. It did not require the counties to dispose of the applications; they typically retain that information. Thus we have to go after each county's records.
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You're not telling something we already don't know. -Gray |
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I also can't seem to find out how to get my Santa Clara sig image either, but that's less important. |
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Team Billy Jack
Is the Calguns Foundation working with Team Billy Jack? I know he was gathering up the good cause statements last year for a possible lawsuit with the right candidate. I did not qualify for that position.
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There's no joint venture underway at this time.
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Santa Clara is not totally impossible. i know it is hard, but you really do need to 'come up' with REALLY good cause..which is not impossible. also it helps if you get to know some officers and they can really help you since it is really 'who you know' there, they will be the best ones to tell you who that is for you. seriously i would say to try and get to know as many of those people as you can and eventually you will be hopefully be helped. one thing, do not believe that 'nobody' gets ccw in Santa Clara because lots...LOTS of people have them. just add all the retired officers, all the politicians, all the people like Meg Whitman, her husband, stars, millionaires, etc...there are lots! Good luck
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If one needs more good cause than "I'm alive, and I've not had my rights stripped due to felony, etc.", it's unconstitutional.
Hey, Sheriff Smith - I "know somebody", too!
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The entire point of this initiative is to avoid getting chin drip when applying for a ccw. There should be no need to "come up" with some elaborate reason to carry or knowing the right people to execute a constitutionally protected right.
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Sent you a pm with the link to your custom signature.
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So when you are ready for some regular citizens with no criminal record to apply with "self defense" as our cause and be denied, please let us know...I for one would be happy to sign up.
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Oh yeah, we'll send out an email. Did you volunteer and put in your zip code?
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I'm sorry, all the smiley faces make it impossible to read your post.
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2Cute2Shoot, are you saying 49 civilian CCW's in a county of nearly 2 million people qualifies as "LOTS"? Or are you saying the numbers reported are wrong? http://calgunsfoundation.org/index.p...ng-goal-status
While I'm certain that with the right connections and profile (big bucks, donated the money to open the new library, golf buddies with the police chief, etc), you could get a CCW here, that isn't most people.
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I was arrested for a non-violent offense in Yolo County >25 years ago. I was diverted, the charges dismissed, and supposedly expunged from my record. When asked, however, I have always acknowledged that I have been arrested. I actually owned a gun at the time and as the officers entered my house I informed them of this fact. They asked me to retrieve and unlock the case in which it was contained (under their close supervision of course), examined the gun, relocked the case and returned the key to me. The case and gun were sitting on my bed when I returned from my brief jail stay. Will this arrest preclude me from getting a CCW in Santa Clara County? Quote:
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I appear to be free of any of the "Prohibiting Conditions" so that's at least a good start. Next I need to spend some time carefully reading all the information here and then I'll likely be signing up to volunteer. |
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Is there anything we (as members, contributors, citizens) can do to get the ball rolling in Santa Clara County? Specifically for getting the GC statements? Is this already in progress?
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Brandon is working at full capacity to get gc statements from all the counties. They will get worked on as they come in. Unless you know the sheriff and can convince her to release the information without getting sued and/or waiting on the outcome of the Ventura suit there isn't really much that can be done.
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Fully support what we're doing here. Please let me know what is required to make this successful.
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