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Old 07-21-2019, 9:11 AM
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ccw permit, discretely pocket carried handgun only, lockable handgun case inside lockable luggage, ccw and booze donít mix, be smart, be cool, good to go. zero metal detectors seen at multiple on- and off- strip casinos.


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Old 07-21-2019, 10:57 AM
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LOL, Las Vegas has been electing Harry Reid to the Senate since probably before you were born.
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Iíve been to Vegas a handful of times and I carried every single time. No issues whatsoever. Donít ask, donít tell. If youíre doing your job by keeping your handgun concealed then you would never run into any issues. YMMV.
This, it is not against the law to carry in NV anti 2A establishments, it is against the law to stay there if they catch you and ask you to leave
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Clark County range has always been closed Monday and Tuesday. It's their maintenance days.
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I've carried in half the casinos on the strip since the shooting, never a thing said or done. Just exercise your rights and quit calling to ask permission to do so.
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Clark County range has always been closed Monday and Tuesday. It's their maintenance days.
UNLESS you're staying in the RV park... Then you have 7-day access to the shotgun range.
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Clark County range has always been closed Monday and Tuesday. It's their maintenance days.
Yes they told me Monday and Tuesday are closed for Las Vegas police, or LEO I forget what exact term they used.

That said there are some really nice guys and gals shooting at that range and most I met were former Californians .

As an aside trapshooting at night is quite a challenge with the wind gusts that come across the field!
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I carry at Costco all the time.


What I don't do is go to Costco while stoned, drunk or loaded, act weird and let other customers see my weapon.


Do those things at your own risk.
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I carry at Costco all the time.


What I don't do is go to Costco while stoned, drunk or loaded, act weird and let other customers see my weapon.


Do those things at your own risk.
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Everyone with a valid CCW carries at Costco.. And, unfortunately, the only carry issue is being examined by the Riverside DA for Corona.
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Ive carried at COSTCO too. Even had 2 cards from 2 friends. I just cannot bring myself to support an organization that is directly opposed to RKBA when suitable alternatives are available.

Just suggesting folks try Sams or ALDIs or whatever and compare. If you compare and like ANTI GUN DEMOCRAT COSTCO better. Just continue to shop there and I have no issue !

For the record my GF shopped at COSTCO and she said " Wow Sams is cheaper on several items we were buying" !
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My firm just defensed a multi million dollar hotel liability trial, we repd the hotel and the performer who was named.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...ble/654626002/

He had no trouble funding an attorney.
you sure he wasn't an outside attorney? im not saying it's impossible C87, just that many lawyers that make a living in Las Vegas don't want to take cases involving the hotels

of course even out here i could see a lawyers eyes lighting up with the prospects of a big payday, $$$$$$ - an audience member injured by an illusion gone bad - yeah, the optics alone could make any lawyer want in on that complaint

congrats on winning your case too - when i looked up the plaintiffs lawyer i came up with a NY law firm - not sure if that's the same guy though
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That is the collectivist mindset that bites us all in the ***, but you would choose to utilize it when it works in favor of your (our) issue rather than the overarching principle which protects freedom of trade and secure, unhindered ownership rights of private enterprise. A privately run business, financed by private enterprises should NEVER have their rights to regulate their privately owned assets.

You can label it collectivist or whatever other intellectual baloney that you want, but the practical fact remains expressly clear:

Everybody knows a CCW Permit Holder out here will carry where he can, signs or not. Vegas, Costco or wherever... probably you do too. It would be hypocrisy to pontificate freedom of trade here... ***that*** would be "over arching" as far as I'm concerned.

To disarm oneself at the Costco parking lot because of these *principles* isnt a sign of integrity but of mental illness.
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You can label it collectivist or whatever other intellectual baloney that you want, but the practical fact remains expressly clear:

Everybody knows a CCW Permit Holder out here will carry where he can, signs or not. Vegas, Costco or wherever... probably you do too. It would be hypocrisy to pontificate freedom of trade here... ***that*** would be "over arching" as far as I'm concerned.

To disarm oneself at the Costco parking lot because of these *principles* isnt a sign of integrity but of mental illness.
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First of all, freedom from the will and action of others is a far cry from intellectual baloney. Using the Bill of Rights as your sword then proclaiming its fundamental concept to be null IS hypocrisy.

You do NOT have a RIGHT to ANYTHING that is mine or anyone elseís. That goes for ANY private entity.

Do I and will I continue to do as I see fit, ABSOLUTELY. I have no right, however, to dictate to others what they should do with their assets and enterprises.

Because something is legal doesnít make it ďright.Ē Because something illegal doesnít make it ďwrong.Ē

Mine is a linear philosophy. If I get in trouble? Thatís on me. Maybe one day, Iíll open a bar that demands customers smoke to enter. THAT would be my ďright.Ē It would also be illegal. I donít give a ****, nor do I expect you to live your life my way.

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First of all, freedom from the will and action of others is a far cry from intellectual baloney. Using the Bill of Rights as your sword then proclaiming its fundamental concept to be null IS hypocrisy.

You do NOT have a RIGHT to ANYTHING that is mine or anyone else’s. That goes for ANY private entity.

Do I and will I continue to do as I see fit, ABSOLUTELY. I have no right, however, to dictate to others what they should do with their assets and enterprises.

Because something is legal doesn’t make it “right.” Because something illegal doesn’t make it “wrong.”

Mine is a linear philosophy. If I get in trouble? That’s on me. Maybe one day, I’ll open a bar that demands customers smoke to enter. THAT would be my “right.” It would also be illegal. I don’t give a ****, nor do I expect you to live your life my way.

Now I have some laws to break.


How far do you take your righteousness? Disarm at the Costco parking lot because you respect and defend their right not to allow guns? We all know you won't. Clearly, that would be a double standard, and that's why your "linear philosophy" is a bunch of "circular baloney."
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How far do you take your righteousness? Disarm at the Costco parking lot because you respect and defend their right not to allow guns? We all know you won't. Clearly, that would be a double standard, and that's why your "linear philosophy" is a bunch of "circular baloney."
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No. I wouldnít. All I am saying is that as a private enterprise, they do not have to allow you to enter with a ****ing spoon if they donít want to. They shouldnít be FORCED to. Iíd still carry mine because I choose to, but should I get in trouble for it, tgaís on me.

Itís just like the bakers that donít wish to bake a cake for a gay wedding. The people donít have to stop being gay, but the bakers have the right, even if it is found to be against the law according to some ****ed up judge or jury, their RIGHT to not serve someone is theirs and theirs alone.

Thatís all Iím saying. As a sentient adult, I wish to make my own rules for those who would do be business with me, based upon the best interest (in MY estimation) of my enterprise. I wish to allow who I want onto my property or to use my assets. I donít expect anyone to infringe on those rights, so I donít wish to FORCE through a court, someone or some business to have their freedoms REGULATED.

I can decide if I wish to violate those, but I donít want it done by the government. I want the government out of everybodyís life as much as possible.


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No. I wouldnít. All I am saying is that as a private enterprise, they do not have to allow you to enter with a ****ing spoon if they donít want to. They shouldnít be FORCED to. Iíd still carry mine because I choose to, but should I get in trouble for it, tgaís on me.

Itís just like the bakers that donít wish to bake a cake for a gay wedding. The people donít have to stop being gay, but the bakers have the right, even if it is found to be against the law according to some ****ed up judge or jury, their RIGHT to not serve someone is theirs and theirs alone.

Thatís all Iím saying. As a sentient adult, I wish to make my own rules for those who would do be business with me, based upon the best interest (in MY estimation) of my enterprise. I wish to allow who I want onto my property or to use my assets. I donít expect anyone to infringe on those rights, so I donít wish to FORCE through a court, someone or some business to have their freedoms REGULATED.

I can decide if I wish to violate those, but I donít want it done by the government. I want the government out of everybodyís life as much as possible.


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No. I wouldn’t. All I am saying is that as a private enterprise, they do not have to allow you to enter with a ****ing spoon if they don’t want to. They shouldn’t be FORCED to. I’d still carry mine because I choose to, but should I get in trouble for it, tga’s on me.

It’s just like the bakers that don’t wish to bake a cake for a gay wedding. The people don’t have to stop being gay, but the bakers have the right, even if it is found to be against the law according to some ****ed up judge or jury, their RIGHT to not serve someone is theirs and theirs alone.

That’s all I’m saying. As a sentient adult, I wish to make my own rules for those who would do be business with me, based upon the best interest (in MY estimation) of my enterprise. I wish to allow who I want onto my property or to use my assets. I don’t expect anyone to infringe on those rights, so I don’t wish to FORCE through a court, someone or some business to have their freedoms REGULATED.

I can decide if I wish to violate those, but I don’t want it done by the government. I want the government out of everybody’s life as much as possible.


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You have a point that I agree with, even though I have in the past carried CCW in Costco in clear violation of their rules

In the future I will treat Costco like I do every other anti gun/ anti carry business.
I will not shop there!

I know its a big sacrifice, not shopping at Costco. When I look at depriving myself of the Costco experience,it is very painful!
I am certain the colonists felt a similar emotion when they faced Redcoat, gallows,Redcoat Muskets,Redcoat Cannon,Redcoat trials, Redcoat 16inch bayonets and the experience of freezing to death at Valley Forge in order to secure RKBA for their posterity !

Yeah thats it a real sacrifice in order to send a small message that I support American freedom !
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You have a point that I agree with, even though I have in the past carried CCW in Costco in clear violation of their rules

In the future I will treat Costco like I do every other anti gun/ anti carry business.
I will not shop there!

I know its a big sacrifice, not shopping at Costco. When I look at depriving myself of the Costco experience,it is very painful!
I am certain the colonists felt a similar emotion when they faced Redcoat, gallows,Redcoat Muskets,Redcoat Cannon,Redcoat trials, Redcoat 16inch bayonets and the experience of freezing to death at Valley Forge in order to secure RKBA for their posterity !

Yeah thats it a real sacrifice in order to send a small message that I support American freedom !


Exactly...we have the power to vote with our feet & wallets. I think we have also, in some situations, I need to be on a donít ask, donít tell standard. Nobody in a real, legit situation, that would otherwise not get prosecuted, is likely to get so for violating Costcoís corporate regulations if the bullets are flying and youíre the good guy.

Iím saying, To give benefit of the doubt, in their case there isnít concrete indication that they have an institutional level problem with the 2nd, but more than likely, a fear of lawyers.

Unfortunately, in protecting the owners (shareholders) as is the responsibility of management, they must to an extent, listen to their counsel and insurers as well.

Now, put that against the banks who refused business from the arms industry, or Dicks Sporting Goods, and you can draw something of a distinction. We can choose Wells Fargo, over Citibank. The former among those not sticking it to a the gun makers, last I checked.

We can go to Cabelaís, for example, over Dickís, who made an assertive point of beating on ďourĒ industry, and hurt the shareholders in the process; violating their fiduciary duty in an idealistically generated decision rather than as a product of arguably sound corporate governance.

So, I probably wonít stop patronizing Costco, barring some similar outright ideological shift, and Iíll bear the brunt of any legal consequence of doing whatís right for me. I will not, however, step foot in a Dickís but to wipe off my muddy All Stars on their freshly shampooed carpet.

Thatís how I draw the line. YMMV.

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This was bookmarked and I just added Calvin Klein to my DO NOT BUY list. Its a shame too because their suits fit me well !
https://magicbaltimore.com/3327814/h...litical-party/

Shopping Price Club/Costco donated $225K, 99% went to Democrats

Rite Aid donated $517K, 60% went to Democrats

Magla Products (Stanley tools, Mr. Clean) donated $22K, 100% went to democrats...

Brotman, chairman of the Costco board, could not be reached for comment. He and Sinegal have continued to donate to Democrats in federal contests. Since 1990, they and other Costco employees have donated more than $2 million to congressional and presidential campaigns, with only 4 percent of that going to Republicans, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

If we ever visit Las Vegas again, we will stay at a Sands owned hotel where 100% of political contributions to republicans.

Likewise Walmart/Sams club is solid RKBA with 97% going to the progun party !
WalMart donated $467K, 97% went to Republicans
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^This. I take my firearm everywhere I travel. The ONLY place that I did not carry a firearm was NYC. Other than that week in NYC I've had a pistol on me wherever I go. I even went to Disneyland carrying concealed. They looked through every bag and purse and stroller but never checked my person.

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^This. I take my firearm everywhere I travel. The ONLY place that I did not carry a firearm was NYC. Other than that week in NYC I've had a pistol on me wherever I go. I even went to Disneyland carrying concealed. They looked through every bag and purse and stroller but never checked my person.

Concealed means concealed and when applied correctly it means NOBODY ELSE KNOWS!

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This was bookmarked and I just added Calvin Klein to my DO NOT BUY list. Its a shame too because their suits fit me well !
https://magicbaltimore.com/3327814/h...litical-party/

Shopping Price Club/Costco donated $225K, 99% went to Democrats

Rite Aid donated $517K, 60% went to Democrats

Magla Products (Stanley tools, Mr. Clean) donated $22K, 100% went to democrats...

Brotman, chairman of the Costco board, could not be reached for comment. He and Sinegal have continued to donate to Democrats in federal contests. Since 1990, they and other Costco employees have donated more than $2 million to congressional and presidential campaigns, with only 4 percent of that going to Republicans, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

If we ever visit Las Vegas again, we will stay at a Sands owned hotel where 100% of political contributions to republicans.

Likewise Walmart/Sams club is solid RKBA with 97% going to the progun party !
WalMart donated $467K, 97% went to Republicans


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^This. I take my firearm everywhere I travel. The ONLY place that I did not carry a firearm was NYC. Other than that week in NYC I've had a pistol on me wherever I go. I even went to Disneyland carrying concealed. They looked through every bag and purse and stroller but never checked my person.



Concealed means concealed and when applied correctly it means NOBODY ELSE KNOWS!



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^This. I take my firearm everywhere I travel. The ONLY place that I did not carry a firearm was NYC. Other than that week in NYC I've had a pistol on me wherever I go. I even went to Disneyland carrying concealed. They looked through every bag and purse and stroller but never checked my person.

Concealed means concealed and when applied correctly it means NOBODY ELSE KNOWS!

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Yup, Disneyland has had metal detectors for a while now. You canít even get into Downtown Disney without going thru screening. They have a limited number of gun lockers for active/retired LEO, but not ccw holders.
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We just went to the Honda center ( Joel Osteen) and I asked a cop directing traffic, if my leatherman tool is OK, or do they have metal detectors ?

He said NO METAL objects and yes they do have near airport type security.

So far It appears only only the symphony's are free from this type of mind control.
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I stayed at the Flamingo a few weeks ago and it wasn't an issue. I'm staying at the Park MGM tomorrow and I'll report back. Simply too many ways into a casino for them to have metal detectors. It may be a different story if you leave your bags with the valet to be brought up to the room; there have been reports of some hotels x-raying luggage.
I stayed at the Park MGM this weekend and as mentioned, no types of scanners, etc., visible. I did see a couple of armed guys walking around with "ERT Emergency Response Team" on their polo shirts (black shirts, green pants.) I wasn't sure who they were, so I googled and found out MGM properties have their own ERT (click link.) The regular security is unarmed.

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I would think MGM would have something like that. Not only did they have the Mandalay Bay shooter a couple years ago, but several years ago someone shot up New York New York.
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I believe Disneyland has metal detectors now, so I don't think you will be able to carry in there anymore.
Same applies to those with metal plates or rods surgically installed. No metal men allowed into the Happiest Kingdom on earth!

Recent reports show Disneyland is not that safe. I would avoid it if I could not protect myself. Inform them of your decision as well.
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Same applies to those with metal plates or rods surgically installed. No metal men allowed into the Happiest Kingdom on earth!

Recent reports show Disneyland is not that safe. I would avoid it if I could not protect myself. Inform them of your decision as well.
People are getting shanked and shot at Disneyland? I thought that would be bigger news..
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I carry at Costco all the time.


What I don't do is go to Costco while stoned, drunk or loaded, act weird and let other customers see my weapon.
Or shoot 3 unarmed citizens and walk away scott free.
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Or shoot 3 unarmed citizens and walk away scott free.
Where did this happen? I only know of Eric Scott getting murdered at COSTCO, by Las Vegas Police. I say murder because the 911 call was recorded and yet no one could hear what highly trained COSTCO clerk reported. Cops sealed it !

This is a big deal !

Eric Scott was one of us and he was shot dead at Costco because of what the COSTCO employee reported. NO 911 TAPE or COSTCO security cams is all I need to know this killing was NOT JUSTIFIED !

While some here say he was drunk or doped up, again we need to hear the 911 call and see the security video.

You people who live in free states and shop at antigun COSTCO. A Costco who's CEOs donate's huge amounts of money( 97% ) to antigun democrats. You folks might want to rethink your patronage of COSTCO!
I did and they can go to hell with their antigun democrat agenda.
Since then Ive noticed Sams club has a cool app that lets you skip the checkout line!
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I stayed at the Flamingo a few weeks ago and it wasn't an issue. I'm staying at the Park MGM tomorrow and I'll report back. Simply too many ways into a casino for them to have metal detectors. It may be a different story if you leave your bags with the valet to be brought up to the room; there have been reports of some hotels x-raying luggage.
my wife was there last night for the Midland outdoor concert - she said they used the wand on people entering the concert but nothing inside the hotel, no metal detectors of any kind
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So what if I donít have a CCW, but have an unloaded locked firearm in my luggage? Then load it while in the hotel room for defense purposes. But never leave the room with it?
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So what if I donít have a CCW, but have an unloaded locked firearm in my luggage? Then load it while in the hotel room for defense purposes. But never leave the room with it?
What are you asking? If the hotel can kick you out or ask you to check in firearm if they found out? I would say yes if their policy is no firearms in rooms.
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So what if I don’t have a CCW, but have an unloaded locked firearm in my luggage? Then load it while in the hotel room for defense purposes. But never leave the room with it?
What are you asking? If the hotel can kick you out or ask you to check in firearm if they found out? I would say yes if their policy is no firearms in rooms.
What he said.


Also note...
If housekeeping finds a firearm in an unoccupied room, standard hotel/casino policy is for them to immediately contact security.
Security will then confiscate the firearm and contact LVMPD.

Furthermore...
NV conceal carry laws prohibits carrying a handgun "concealed upon your person" anywhere in NV, unless the person has a valid carry permit.
^This includes property owner/operator being on/in their own property and to persons renting property.
~Without a valid carry permit, open carry is the only legal carry method.
NV Courts have upheld this and have determined that "concealed upon your person" to also include the handgun being in an unlocked portable container (case, bag, purse, pack, etc).
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Not sure where this Costco stuff is coming from.

I've been shopping at Costco for decades, literally, and I've never seen any NO GUNS signs nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Frankly, I also don't check where the CEO of the business I shop at donates his money and if he goes to church. If I went that deep, I'd have no time for things that really matter. I've always carried inside Costco, and nobody would ever know about it, as I carry concealed.
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Not sure where this Costco stuff is coming from.

I've been shopping at Costco for decades, literally, and I've never seen any NO GUNS signs nor have I ever heard of such a thing. Frankly, I also don't check where the CEO of the business I shop at donates his money and if he goes to church. If I went that deep, I'd have no time for things that really matter. I've always carried inside Costco, and nobody would ever know about it, as I carry concealed.
Since posted "no weapons" signs have no legal weight in the States that Costco operates in, they do not post "no weapons" signs.
^Unless, the store manager wants one.

Costco has had a "no weapons" policy for several decades.

It's in the terms of service for membership, obtaining a membership is your consent to agree with this policy, and violating the policy can result in your membership being terminated.
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