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Old 07-19-2019, 3:36 PM
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Default Abandoned Liberty safe? Can I recover the combo?

Hey guys. First of all I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right section, I wasn't sure which section this questions belongs in.

Second of all, does anyone know if it is possible to recover a combination of a abandoned Liberty safe?

I buy and flip houses and in this house 2 Liberty safes were left behind. One I don't care for much but the bigger one i'm hoping I can keep. I have two companies that are willing to come and drill it open but if there are any suggestions on how to possibly save it, that would be great.

Any input is much appreciated.
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Old 07-19-2019, 3:41 PM
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Old 07-19-2019, 3:45 PM
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A locksmith can tell you if it can be opened without drilling. I wouldnt pay anyone to drill it unless i was sure there was something valuable inside.
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Old 07-19-2019, 3:48 PM
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Buy a harbor freight pinhole camera and drill a hole and look inside of both. Hard to send you info since you are hiding location. What county?
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Old 07-19-2019, 3:53 PM
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From his past posts .....( In Claremont to be exact.)

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I would be interested in the smaller one for an ammo locker
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Old 07-19-2019, 4:06 PM
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Buy a harbor freight pinhole camera and drill a hole and look inside of both. Hard to send you info since you are hiding location. What county?
I'm in LA County
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Old 07-19-2019, 4:13 PM
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Expect to pay $600.00 to $800.00 for a locksmith to drill. They can do it and repair back to new. If it has a pushbotton electric lock, no drilling required.
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I would be interested in the smaller one for an ammo locker
Yep I'm in Claremont.
This house is disgusting. The previous owner was a massive hoarder, rats running around but we were able to recover some nice tools. There's a ton of reloading stuff all over the house plus the two safes. I'll keep you guys posted if I ever get these safes open.
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Safe thread. Surely OP will deliver.
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Call Dean safe in sfv. They are on Woodman. Contact Liberty Safe as well.
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Old 07-19-2019, 4:28 PM
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See if you can get Geraldo Rivera to stand by while the locksmith works.

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Is a bomb squad needed???

I would do nothing until I contacted Liberty. Make sure you have the dimensions and type of locking mechanism before calling.

Also, plan on keeping, at least for now, both safes. Get someone who regularly does reloading to see what's there.
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:06 PM
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Is a bomb squad needed???

I would do nothing until I contacted Liberty. Make sure you have the dimensions and type of locking mechanism before calling.

Also, plan on keeping, at least for now, both safes. Get someone who regularly does reloading to see what's there.
I called Liberty already and they were of no help lol. I'm going to try and call again and hope I get someone else to help me out.

The person I spoke with earlier said I would have to prove I'm not someone who stole the safe and wants it open. I mentioned I can provide final escrow documents, operating agreement, addendum from the seller releasing all personal items, etc.... he then said he would need proof that the previous homeowner is in fact the owner of the safe lol. TF? I don't blame them I guess.
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:30 PM
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Are they bolted down? Can ya shake them like a xmas present see if anything rattles around??- ;-))

For$600.00 I would try drilling and cheap HF camera it myself---can you drill the safes from the side? leave the door alone till you see if anything inside...which there HAS to be!
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:34 PM
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offer the prior occupant cash for combos if you can contact tthem.
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:46 PM
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Electronic or mechanical lock?
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:48 PM
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Call Dean safe in sfv. They are on Woodman. Contact Liberty Safe as well.
^^^THIS^^^

If you have auto club he may be able to put the cost through them. He is completely capable of opening the safe. I would then have him install a new lock with a new combo.
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:50 PM
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there is a member here that specializes in safes. i cannot recall the name

he has opened threads with advice
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Old 07-19-2019, 5:56 PM
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I called Liberty already and they were of no help lol. I'm going to try and call again and hope I get someone else to help me out.

The person I spoke with earlier said I would have to prove I'm not someone who stole the safe and wants it open. I mentioned I can provide final escrow documents, operating agreement, addendum from the seller releasing all personal items, etc.... he then said he would need proof that the previous homeowner is in fact the owner of the safe lol. TF? I don't blame them I guess.
See if there's a local dealer in your immediate neighborhood and go see him. Tell him the circumstances. Make sure you bring a picture(s) of each lock. Then ask him for suggestions. When I was buying a Cabela's safe made by Liberty, I check the local Liberty dealer first. I know it's a different situation, but it's always better to do it in person than via phone.

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Old 07-19-2019, 6:06 PM
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As previously mentioned. Call Dean Safe in Van Nuys.

They are honest and reasonably priced in my experience. If they can't personally do it, they will be able to refer you to the correct person.


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Old 07-19-2019, 6:09 PM
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You can get the electronic or manual code...ask me how I know.
OP...I know you already called Liberty...but stay at it...you could end up with operational safes!

If I recall correctly...you need some things as you mentioned.

The serial number, proof the safe is yours...like the original receipt. The Liberty safe co has a form you fill out with a lot of detailed info and get notarized. Then you mail it and a check for 25 or 35 bucks to the manufacturer...they keep a backup code to open them...evidentially, every safe has these codes.

In my case...they pointed back to the Liberty safe dealer I got it from...I had to take all that info to them...then, they did in fact have a hard copy of my original purchase from many years earlier. Sure enough, after proving who I was, I got the code...and opened the safe and reset everything. See if you can try again...it takes a lot of time.

That whole process took about 6 weeks...they were very careful to determine who I was...for obvious reasons.
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A little off topic, but--
I know a guy that bought a safe that had the lock drilled out. He bought, on ebay, I think, a replacement lock that he bolted on from the inside. Looks and works good.
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https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...d.php?t=458943

This Calgunner has a long running thread advertising his safe business. May be the one referred to above.
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Old 07-19-2019, 6:18 PM
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I forgot the combo to my liberty safe. Went to liberty safe dealer I bought it from. Paid $50 and had the serial number they contacted liberty safes and got the original combo for me.
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Are they bolted down? Can ya shake them like a xmas present see if anything rattles around??- ;-))
Man dies after safe falls on top of him, News at 11.
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Don't Drill and ruin a good safe.

Liberty safes have a serial number on the inside of the door.
You may need to use a locksmith but if you jump thru the hoops they should be able to get you a combination.
Be persistent....
Chances of it being the same combo are pretty good.

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Look on top, might be a hole with a plug in it dead center used in the manufacturing process.
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Old 07-19-2019, 8:14 PM
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Call sturdy safes here in Fresno, I think they love showing how other safes can be bypassed, I’m sure they could at least give you some guidance. If it were me I’d get a cheap stethoscope and play burglar too, can’t hurt

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A pic of the lock would go a long way. Worth a thousand words they say. You could answer 50 questions in one pic. Liberty uses more than a few lock types. Some are easier than others to crack.
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The lgs owner once opened a safe with a angle grinder. He got lucky as the safe was filled with black powder and he didn't blow himself up.

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OP: That safe can be opened without spending much $$ like another has suggested. Yes the original lock may be ruined, however a replacement isn't that much.
When the locksmith eventually opens it (I had this done once), ask him to stand away for a minute while YOU ALONE check for any firearms. Likely he will offer to do this prior as a matter of your privacy. If you find any (or anything else of value) DO NOT POST IT HERE!.....You will get the "Mothers of Cal Guns" and their Grandmas raining down on you with all the ways about how to deal with that situation, transfer rules, their interpretation, FUD, etc. Figure it out on your own, it's not that difficult.
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Don't Drill and ruin a good safe.

Liberty safes have a serial number on the inside of the door.
You may need to use a locksmith but if you jump thru the hoops they should be able to get you a combination.
Be persistent....
Chances of it being the same combo are pretty good.
Serial number on inside of door..... Hmmmmmm, how is he gonna get to that?

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Don't safes have a universal combo for the eyes of locksmiths only?
Stick with it and get the combo.
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This could be a real score
Or Al Capone's safe
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I called Liberty already and they were of no help lol. I'm going to try and call again and hope I get someone else to help me out.

The person I spoke with earlier said I would have to prove I'm not someone who stole the safe and wants it open. I mentioned I can provide final escrow documents, operating agreement, addendum from the seller releasing all personal items, etc.... he then said he would need proof that the previous homeowner is in fact the owner of the safe lol. TF? I don't blame them I guess.
All those documents are great and all but they don't actually prove the safe actually belongs to you or the previous owner. If that's all it takes to get the combo to one of their safes then they can kiss their business goodbye. The whole point of a safe is to prevent people who don't know the combo from getting in.

Is it an electronic lock or a mechanical lock?
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Fun situation. If there's a flat head screw driver in the area and a crowbar, just keys to the city your way in. If it's an RSC it shouldn't take you longer than five minutes, less if it's not bolted down and you have a friend with you. Sure it's a shame to throw away a perfectly "good" rsc, but then again doing so shows you its value.
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