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Old 06-22-2010, 2:54 PM
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Default Wrap your hand around a Hammerhead CA-Legal AR-15 Grip. Amazon.com #1 Best Seller!

EXILE MACHINE "HAMMERHEAD" CA-LEGAL AR-15 STOCK ADAPTER
for DETACHABLE Magazine "Featureless" AR-15 Rifles


Replaces pistol grip on Off-List featureless AR-15 rifle. Avoid CA's "Assault Weapon" registration.

1.) Replace Pistol Grip with Exile Machine Hammerhead AR-15 Stock Adapter.
2.) Remove Forward Grip, Stock, Grenade/Flare Launcher, Flash Suppressor.
3.) Attach fixed (or pinned collapsible) stock. There are many ways to configure.
4.) Shoulder up like a Wooden Rifle - Secure Comfortable Wrap-Around Hold

100% CA-LEGAL*


NO BULLET BUTTON OR MAG LOCK!

(Collapsible stock must be pinned for CA-compliance)

NO TOOL TO DROP MAGS!


NO ASSAULT WEAPON REGISTRATION?

Shown with Magpul MOE Fixed stock

THAT'S RIGHT: NO ASSAULT WEAPON REGISTRATION!

Featureless rifles are under no requirement to be registered as AW under the new CA assault weapons bans. Registration leads to Confiscation.

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*See CA PC 30515(a)(1)(A-F) & CA 11 CCR 5469(d)
, also the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms attests** that Hammerhead is not a pistol grip and therefore legal when used on a detachable magazine semiautomatic centerfire rifle with none of the features listed in CA PC 30515(a)(1)(A-F). As with any firearms accessory product, you should read and understand the CA Penal Law before use.

**Sworn testimony of Frank Navarro, CA DOJ Bureau of Firearms Special Agent, in the case of People vs. Haack and Haack, California County of Tulare Superior Court, 3 November 2010.

UPDATE: Hammerhead 3D CAD (STEP) file has been released under a Creative Commons License. This file is free for anyone to modify or use. Read more about it here:

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NO 10 ROUND LIMIT!
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NO 10 ROUND LIMIT!
Are you sure???
Yep. If you legally own (or legally borrow) large capacity mags, you can use them in a detachable magazine (aka "featureless") rifle. See CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)(A-F), and PC12020(a)(2).

Where you cannot use large capacity mags is in a rifle with a magazine lock. See CA PC 12276.1(a)(2).

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Yep. If you legally own (or legally borrow) large capacity mags, you can use them in a detachable magazine (aka "featureless") rifle. See CA PC 12276.1(a)(1)(A-F), and PC12020(a)(2).

Where you cannot use large capacity mags is in a rifle with a magazine lock. See CA PC 12276.1(a)(2).

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One small caveat and i'm surprised nobody mentioned it before. You may NOT "borrow" magazines from a friend, because it is illegal for them to loan them to you.....

From DOJ FAQ:

9.If I have a large-capacity magazine, do I need to get rid of it?

No. Continued possession of large-capacity magazines (able to accept more than 10 rounds) that you owned in California before January 1, 2000, is not prohibited. However as of January 1, 2000, it is illegal to buy, manufacture, import, keep for sale, expose for sale, give or lend any large-capacity magazine in California except by law enforcement agencies, California peace officers, or licensed dealers.

(PC Section 12020 (b)(19-29))

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You may NOT "borrow" magazines from a friend, because it is illegal for them to loan them to you.....
Hi Greg, Please read a little further into PC 12020 and you'll find the exemption for lending within an "accessible vicinity." It's quite legal to borrow from someone who stays nearby.
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I checked the PC and it was just the portion of the listed lowers. I still don't get how this has any more legality for pre-ban hi-caps than a mag-locked rifle.
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I still don't get how this has any more legality for pre-ban hi-caps than a mag-locked rifle.
Clarified in detail here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=315096
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No all I need are pre-ban mags
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I just had to give the hammerhead a shot , so I picked one up from the exile machine website.

I tried every combination of stock and buffer tube shown on the site , and the one I settled on was the Type 1 configuration...my only issue was I needed a little bit longer buffer tube for my cheek weld to be comfortable.

So I used a full length buffer tube instead of the pistol buffer tube, worked out perfect for me. I took a button head allen bolt, drilled it to the same hole diameter as the vented screw included with most stocks...just thought it looked nicer then the slotted vented screws.

Then I used one of the really short LE Tactical A2 type stocks...it was the perfect length for me ( With the added length of the hammerhead ) and the stock still extends past the full length buffer tube I used...that was important so when I set the rifle down on the buttplate the button head vented screw never touches the ground.

I replaced the flash hider with a DPMS Miculek muzzle brake...to make sure the entire rifle was completely featureless.

Then proceeded to yank off the bullet button, and dig out the old school metal 30 rounders that I couldnt use on the bullet button builds ( I did rebuild them with magpul followers and ranger plates ).

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No all I need are pre-ban mags
if you don't already own them it's too late.
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I need to fondle one of these...
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Question....how do you prove that you owned the highcap mags before the ban. Are they marked in some way?
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It's my understanding that they have to prove that you DID NOT OWN the mags before the ban...

If they aren't necessarily marked with a date, then maybe they are marked with a manufacture's name... And if lets say that manufacture didnt start making mag's until after the ban that could be a problem. Of course marking's are normally on the floor plate and maybe you replaced the floor plate at some point..

Anyway! The point being, I think as long as you're on the level and everything's on the up and up and you legally owned the mag's preban you should be fine.
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It doesnt even matter how the mags are marked , when you buy the rebuild kit what comes in the bag is the mag body...spring...follower...and floorplate.

If your magazine body is rusted/dented/worn out ...you replace it as well.

The entire reason I bought my Socom II was that I had ammo cans full of 20 rounders that my uncle had given me before he died back in my early 20's ( Lets just say that was a long time ago ) They were in awesome shape and usable , I kept them thinking that when I could afford the rifle I really wanted ...they would be available.

It was a completely different story with the AR mags , they werent stored in oring sealed containers and were basically trash and in a box of scrap metal in the garage . It wasnt until becoming a forum member here, and doing a lot of research that I realized I could " Rebuild " those junk magazines with a new mag body as well...all those years I just figured why put new parts into banged up disgusting looking mag bodies that probably wont feed to save their lives.

If I would have known I could have rebuilt those mags including the mag body itself , I would have built my first AR as a featureless and not waited until just now.

This forum is awesome in that respect, I havent even shot my featureless yet...but that will change this coming Monday
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Hmm, this seems interesting. I am thinking about trying one.
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I'm digging this configuration... Might have to stock some bare receiver extension tubes and foam sleeves:


We have all the goodies you need to complete your featureless build. Stocks, pistol tubes, brakes, optics, LPKs. https://www.exilemachine.net/shop

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We also have all the goodies you need to complete your featureless build. Stocks, pistol tubes, brakes, optics, LPKs.
Nice!

Placed an order this am, gonna give that Hammerhead a try. Thanks for the great price!

Happy 4th!
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Just placed my order! Thanks for the deal!!
I love holiday sales!!
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Tuesday Afternoon Bump...

Sale still going like gangbusters. If you're shy of the internet you can always phone in an order. I answer the phone myself: 214 432 7411.

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Thanks for the orders.

Word's getting out that you don't have to lock up your mags. And you can still add some pretty awesome "features" like holographic sights. Check out the store and pick up an ACE stock or a pistol tube or muzzle brake. Or holographic sight. Ambi-safety, LPK, we're stocking a bunch of other stuff now that works well with the Hammerhead.

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Exile Machine - It seems the pictures you have of your weapons have Flash Hiders on them.....wouldnt that make them "featured" rifles? And what's the ruling on muzzle brakes on featureless builds?

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Show me which photos you're referring to. Flash hider's a feature and shouldn't be on a CA-featureless rifle. Muzzle brake's OK.

Some of our customers are not in CA, and may prefer to use a flash hider. (Yes we have customers in the free states who prefer a wooden rifle hold).

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The first pic looks like a YHM phantom flash hider and the second pic looks like the standard A2 birdcage flash hider. Maybe I am wrong???
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The first pic looks like a YHM phantom flash hider and the second pic looks like the standard A2 birdcage flash hider. Maybe I am wrong???
I am really digging that bottom configuration...it doesn't look weird and quirky like the monsterman grip (no offense, just IMO)

And the bottom rifle has the same muzzle brake as the top one, it just looks like a A2 cage since its slightly cut out of the picture, look closer
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I am really digging that bottom configuration...it doesn't look weird and quirky like the monsterman grip (no offense, just IMO)
I am gonna try that set-up, tho' in my old eyes they all look weird if they aren't like an original A1
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Those are both the same YHM muzzle brake. Not a flash hider. In the second photo the tip of the device is cropped out of the picture.

Here's a photo of the device, taken from YHM's website:


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Those are both the same YHM muzzle brake. Not a flash hider. In the second photo the tip of the device is cropped out of the picture.

Here's a photo of the device, taken from YHM's website:

My mistake....that is certainly a muzzle brake. Just couldnt see it from the picture

Now if only I had some legally owned hi-cap mags!
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Orders have shipped.

We have a bunch of accessories now on the store that help round out your detachable magazine AR-15 build. ACE & RRA stocks, pistol buffer tubes, parts kits, muzzle brakes, Magpul PMAG rebuild kits, and EOTech holographic sights. High-tech sights are not a listed feature in 12276.1 so why not? More models coming soon.



We added the RRA CAR Operator stock today as well:



We will ship another batch of orders late tonight. Any orders received by 5PM Pacific time will be carted to the post office by dark of night. Post office says they're closed tomorrow so this is the last shipping opportunity till Monday.

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Thanks!

TTT for a great deal for Calgunners!
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(Don't forget if you don't own 30 rounders you can still borrow from a friend at the range as long as he stays nearby, or just drop 10 rounders with your finger.)

Thanks for the orders.

Check/MO accepted as well. Two more days. Three Hammerheads fit nicely into a priority mail flat rate box so that's the best value for your federal reserve notes. Figure you'll build more than one rifle and the sale will be over on the 6th. So at these prices might as well order three.

Big batch of pistol tubes and ACE stocks coming in this week.

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Thanks for the prompt service...got my order today.

Happy 4th!
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order placed for one.
any special on pistol buffer tubes?
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Thanks for the orders! One more day and then the sale will be over, so get 'em now while you can. Best deal on shipping is to order three units.
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Bump. Sale ends tonight! 23:59 Pacific Time. Don't miss it. Stock up. Three units is your best deal with shipping. Pick up a stock and buffer tube to match.
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I'm brand new to to the AR 10 world and have a question regarding the hammerhead grip verses a single stock with a near identical grip but blended into the stock. Would this become a thumb hole stock?
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I'm brand new to to the AR 10 world and have a question regarding the hammerhead grip verses a single stock with a near identical grip but blended into the stock. Would this become a thumb hole stock?
Hard to say without a photo of the configuration in question. Please contact a competent firearms attorney for the best answer to all your legal questions.

There's been a big spike in demand for the Hammerhead in the days since Governor Brown signed the Gunpocalypse bills into law, and we wanted to make sure everyone who wants one can get one. We are nearly out of stock here in the warehouse (we're making plenty more, no worries), but there are other inventories available elsewhere. We'll list some of those here for convenience:

1) These are currently out of stock but we do have a shipment arriving at Amazon's
Dallas warehouse early this week. They can be purchased from Amazon.com at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Exile-Machine...dp/B00RY568CS/ . These are fulfilled by Amazon so prime eligible and depending on your proximity to the Amazon.com warehouse, same day shipping is possible.

2) At the time of this writing we have 57 units in stock that we've got on Amazon being advertised toward the paintball market. Identical product, packaging, and no hassle warranty as the product marketed toward CA-Legal. Only the product listing and barcode label is different. You can find those at this link: https://www.amazon.com/Exile-Machine...dp/B01ERYS05G/ . These are fulfilled by Amazon so prime eligible and depending on your proximity to the Amazon.com warehouse, same day shipping is possible.

3) There are other sellers on Amazon who have purchased product direct from us on our dealer program and have branded their Amazon.com listings somewhat differently, often bundling the Hammerhead with other useful parts. You can find them on a search for "Exile Machine Hammerhead." Look for Ultimate Arms Gear, PA Tactical, etc. Prices vary.

4) Brownell's still has inventory in stock. Purchase here: http://www.brownells.com/manufacture...HINE/index.htm

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Originally Posted by ar15barrels View Post
YES IT CAN!
"Pink rifle disease... SPREAD IT!"
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