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Old 01-28-2017, 2:25 PM
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Default Looking to build a bolt action rifle from 80%

It's something I've been meaning to do for a while. I think it's something I would enjoy doing. Has anyone done it? Maybe a rem 700. The only thing I've been able to find are bolt action uppers for ar receivers.
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An interesting idea. I'd like to hear other's thoughts as well.
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I don't think they exist.
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I don't think they exist.
They do, or did. There was a guy on Benchrest Central that used to
sell the action body's. Lynn (here on the forum) knows the guys name.

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They do, or did. There was a guy on Benchrest Central that used to
sell the action body's. Lynn (here on the forum) knows the guys name.

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Googling the guys name came up this thread on the practical machinist forum. http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...-short-295527/
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Googling the guys name came up this thread on the practical machinist forum. http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...-short-295527/
That looks promising. I have a lathe but still waiting to get a mill. Now I have multiple reasons to get one so this looks like a project I'll take on this summer!

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Default Remington 700 80% receivers

I know this is really old but I don't know how to start a new thread, I have the equipment and the knowledge to manufacture Remington 700 80% receiver blanks, If I can get enough interest I will start building them, I can build them in either 4140 or 416 stainless, I will do a prebuy for what ever is most popular, I have been building gun parts for over 25 years, I have built several long range precision rifles based on the 700 receiver, I prefer the remage type barrels with the savage type adjusting nut for headspacing, I have even made the barrels in 308 using the 700 receiver and the adjusting nut for head spacing, very fantastic shooting rifles
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I know this is really old but I don't know how to start a new thread, I have the equipment and the knowledge to manufacture Remington 700 80% receiver blanks, If I can get enough interest I will start building them, I can build them in either 4140 or 416 stainless, I will do a prebuy for what ever is most popular, I have been building gun parts for over 25 years, I have built several long range precision rifles based on the 700 receiver, I prefer the remage type barrels with the savage type adjusting nut for headspacing, I have even made the barrels in 308 using the 700 receiver and the adjusting nut for head spacing, very fantastic shooting rifles
There used to be another guy making 700 blanks a few years ago, but he quit.
I suppose sales were not that good.
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Yeah I think the machinig skills and equipment needed to finish a 700 clone 80% is far beyond the average gun owner.
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.....why....
Because some may really enjoy and value the ability to create an item that is otherwise very highly regulated and controlled by the government, and yet completely leave government out of the process. There is for some a sense of satisfaction and security knowing that Big Brother is not aware of what you are doing.
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Because some may really enjoy and value the ability to create an item that is otherwise very highly regulated and controlled by the government, and yet completely leave government out of the process. There is for some a sense of satisfaction and security knowing that Big Brother is not aware of what you are doing.
Thats fine for now, but don't forget the manditiory serilization for all homebuilt guns is coming in a year or so.
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Speaking of the Remington wasn’t there a way to make the bolt black powder into a cartridge maybe start with that.
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There used to be another guy making 700 blanks a few years ago, but he quit.
I suppose sales were not that good.
My understanding why he quit is because the EDM shop he used was not reliable, I took that part out of the equation and I bought my own EDM machine, Its not that complicated to finish them if you have basic machinist knowledge, I am working on getting ATF approval to be able to finish the lathe work so all that will be left is mill work, the hardest part to finishing one is to do the barrel thread concentric to the internal bolt bore, most people struggle to do manual threading but my cnc lathe don't mind one little bit, it would however be hard to finish with a dermal tool, I am considering also making fixtures to drill all the needed holes, after that a guy could finish one with a dermal and patience
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Wasn't there a machine shop in San Jose (or thereabouts) that allowed people to mill their own AR lowers from billet? As I recall, they also did 700 receiver clones (and several others.) Until the ATF shut them down, anyway. I never got a chance to take advantage of their services.

Seems to me it would be easier to just buy a finished action with bolt, and have a smith mount a barrel (or go Remage.) Unless there's some compelling reason to avoid the paper trail?
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Its not that complicated to finish them if you have basic machinist knowledge,
the hardest part to finishing one is to do the barrel thread concentric to the internal bolt bore
I have no problem cutting the threads concentric to the bolt bore.
I do that all the time when truing 700 receivers.








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I have no problem cutting the threads concentric to the bolt bore.
I do that all the time when truing 700 receivers.







That's great but a lot of guys just haven't got that part figured or or they don't have a lathe with those capabilities, any way if I took that part of doing the receivers away it would be easier for the average guy to do then, wouldn't you agree?
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That's great but a lot of guys just haven't got that part figured or or they don't have a lathe with those capabilities, any way if I took that part of doing the receivers away it would be easier for the average guy to do then, wouldn't you agree?
I think that the machining of the underside and the ejection port and the whole back end is more complicated than the threading.
It would be easier to make tooling to bore and thread the front end than to do all the milling work with the compound angles involved.
The lug helix cuts and the primary extraction cam is what’s going to throw most people off.
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Wasn't there a machine shop in San Jose (or thereabouts) that allowed people to mill their own AR lowers from billet? As I recall, they also did 700 receiver clones (and several others.) Until the ATF shut them down, anyway. I never got a chance to take advantage of their services.

Seems to me it would be easier to just buy a finished action with bolt, and have a smith mount a barrel (or go Remage.) Unless there's some compelling reason to avoid the paper trail?
Their remy 700 priject never made it past planning.
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Thanks, Jason. Guess I didn't miss anything.
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Jerrell Mattingley sells the blanks as well and he is located in Utah if my memory is any good.
He has all the hard work already done and you mill in the loading ports and shape the tang.
When drop port actions hit the market for the 6PPC Benchrest crowd some of the long-range crowd made drop port clones using these blanks.
Tim Sellers the guy who makes the very nice SureFeed ammo holders uses one on his 1000 yard rifle.
For the very few here that shoot very big heavy guns Gary can make you a front rest center post 2.5 inches across. Most front rests use a very skinny center post with one centrally located 1/4-20 bolt holding the top on. Those tops will quickly loosen if your runnin and gunnin your shots downrange.
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My understanding why he quit is because the EDM shop he used was not reliable, I took that part out of the equation and I bought my own EDM machine, Its not that complicated to finish them if you have basic machinist knowledge, I am working on getting ATF approval to be able to finish the lathe work so all that will be left is mill work, the hardest part to finishing one is to do the barrel thread concentric to the internal bolt bore, most people struggle to do manual threading but my cnc lathe don't mind one little bit, it would however be hard to finish with a dermal tool, I am considering also making fixtures to drill all the needed holes, after that a guy could finish one with a dermal and patience
I'm necroposting your necropost 500+ days later, but I'm at a point where I want to start this project up again. I just finished building a rifling press, so I can do my own button rifling now (I'm getting great results with it, but it remains to be seen how well my barrels will perform! I can always buy a high quality barrel so I'm not wasting a good action on a crappy barrel)

I have an old South Bend lathe and a modern 3 axis VMC that can accept a 4th axis rotary. I also have access to some really nice CNC lathes with live tooling etc, but I'm just starting to learn the ins and outs with cnc lathes. I can CAD/CAM just about anything for my vertical mill though.

Anyway, It looks like Jerrel Mattingley from Utah passed away in 2012, so I reached out to Gary on Practical Machinist to see if he's still making blanks.

That leaves you as a potential supplier as well. I don't know if you're still interested in doing it, but if you'd like, I can start a group buy on Calguns. There is also an online retail outlet where I could get the blanks listed if you wanted to sell them directly or wholesale them. Send me a PM if you want to proceed.

Anyone else that can contribute to this discusson, please feel free!
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