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Old 03-13-2019, 5:09 AM
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Default PA will require all guns be registered with State Police...yearly

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...rol-p-n2543026

A bill that would require mandatory gun registration is currently making its way through the Pennsylvania Assembly. House Bill 768, if passed, would require gun owners to register their firearms with the Pennsylvania State Police.

Part of the registration process would include filling out an application that included:

• Name, age, sex and date of birth
• Personal and business addresses
• Telephone number
• Social security number
• Citizenship status
• Make, model, caliber/gauge, type and serial number of each firearm
• Two photographs taken within 30 days immediately prior to the date of filing the application equivalent to passport size showing the full face, head and shoulders of the applicant in a clear and distinguishing manner
• Fingerprints

The application will be approved or denied within 30 days. If approved, a certificate will be provided to the gun owner, who is expected to carry the piece of paper with the firearm at all times. Police would also be allowed to stop people and ask gun owners if he or she is carrying their certificate with them.

Each firearm certificate would need to be renewed on an annual basis.

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Old 03-13-2019, 5:23 AM
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Another chapter in "The Making of A Criminal-Volume 12"

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jeez louise what a Stalinist maneuver...

will have no choice but to bail if CA passes crap like this
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PA seems pretty moderate-conservative. What is the likelihood that this passes?
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PA seems pretty moderate-conservative. What is the likelihood that this passes?
I don't even think this would pass in CA
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It could pass here. I hope it does. Then the cowardly SCOTUS would have to deal with it.

So how are those mandatory AR registrations going back east?
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Default PA will require all guns be registered with State Police...yearly

Would this bill affect purchasing firearms? Will it be like California where the guns are automatically registered once purchased or does one have to “manually” register it with the police like they do in Hawaii? Judging by the fingerprint requirement, I’m assuming it will be the latter.


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It's interesting how an enumerated right can become a highly regulated privilege.
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Supposedly the number of REGISTERED firearms in PA number is around 88,732. (Unsure year of that statistic).

Registering on a yearly basis might prove to be an expensive task, all things involved. So obviously registering is going to cost the firearm owner some bucks.

A sure way to see voluntary registration go down, in my opinion.

Tunnel visioned legislators.

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NOT a Pennsylvania law.

Only a bill.

Title of this thread should be “Pennsylvania bill would require all guns to be registered with the state police...yearly.”

Hopefully this gets squashed.
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I'm surprised they even asked for citizenship status. I'm sure they will see their error and delete that racist demand!! AOC will make them do it.
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I'm surprised they even asked for citizenship status. I'm sure they will see their error and delete that racist demand!! AOC will make them do it.


Part of me thinks they want non citizens to be disarmed for some reason.


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NOT a Pennsylvania law.

Only a bill.

Title of this thread should be “Pennsylvania bill would require all guns to be registered with the state police...yearly.”

Hopefully this gets squashed.
Yes, title is very misleading.
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So they ask for me to self identify as a citizen and what sex...hmmm...I wonder if the clown who wrote this crap even thought about those types of questions...let alone the intent to have a registration of a private item, bought legally (in theory) that is no business of the government...

Always blame the guy following your insane crap rules...never the illegally owned ones.
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Those questions mostly resemble the old German ones, except the Germans also had the

[ ] JEW
[ ] NOT JEW

on their forms. History repeats itself.
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PA will require all guns be registered with State Police...yearly



Have they CHANGED the state constitution yet?

If not, it's just a lotta liberal gas.

Look up the right RKBA in the PA state constitution - it's STRONGER than the 2A. And the state legislature is DOMINATED by Pro 2A republicans, who consistently put Philthy & Pittsburgh's numbnut proposals in their place... the round file.
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will it reduce # of homicides?
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Registration is only the first step.
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The SCOTUS is hearing the NY case that deals with Permitting and transporting.
I hope they deem registration unconstitutional.
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The SCOTUS is hearing the NY case that deals with Permitting and transporting.
I hope they deem registration unconstitutional.
I doubt it. Over the last few years "states rights" seems to the past leanings.

This court, I don't know.

I'd love to be wrong, again.

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Scotus will find some oddball findings like when Robert's declared Obama care a "tax".

I have no faith in that crew. That is a PC court desperate for a PC ruling.
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Well. At least we are not in New Zealand (or Australia and England). Where commmunists can just take away your freedoms.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...rol-p-n2543026

A bill that would require mandatory gun registration is currently making its way through the Pennsylvania Assembly. House Bill 768, if passed, would require gun owners to register their firearms with the Pennsylvania State Police.

Part of the registration process would include filling out an application that included:

• Name, age, sex and date of birth
• Personal and business addresses
• Telephone number
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• Fingerprints

The application will be approved or denied within 30 days. If approved, a certificate will be provided to the gun owner, who is expected to carry the piece of paper with the firearm at all times. Police would also be allowed to stop people and ask gun owners if he or she is carrying their certificate with them.

Each firearm certificate would need to be renewed on an annual basis.

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This makes California look like the land of freedom.
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If approved, a certificate will be provided to the gun owner, who is expected to carry the piece of paper with the firearm at all times. Police would also be allowed to stop people and ask gun owners if he or she is carrying their certificate with them.
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Scotus will find some oddball findings like when Robert's declared Obama care a "tax".

I have no faith in that crew. That is a PC court desperate for a PC ruling.
Roberts is a waste of space.
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Good luck enforcing a yearly registration, unless they pay the SP a lot of overtime. They wouldn't have time to do any real police work.
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PA seems pretty moderate-conservative. What is the likelihood that this passes?
Zero

I do not know why the poster dishonestly titled this "PA will require all guns be registered with State Police...yearly" when the story is actuality about a doomed bill that wont get out of committee.

North of 90% of gun control measures introduced in the US dont get passed and the large majority fail to even get out of committee.

is it important to note them? yes. Is it helpful to imply they are passed law when they in fact are not? NO.
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