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AK building services?
I have an Ak kit that needs to be built before some law comes around and bans them completely. I am looking for a gunsmith who does building services. I have a kit that needs to be installed on a flat (bending, riveting) and then have a bullet button installed. I want a gunsmith who is local but am willing to send it to an out of state gunsmith if anyone knows one. My current gunsmith is dragging his feet and has had it for over a year now and I'm getting impatient. I know things are busy right now but this is ridiculous. Any recommendations? PM me or post on here.
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You do realize that what you are asking for is considered Manufacturing, not for personal use and is subject to all of the tax and laws with regards to such. You need more than just an FFL, you need to pay the federal tax on the manufactured firearm as well as serialize it.
Which is why we build our own.
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There isn't a gunsmith out there who will build on your flat period. If you want to build on a flat, you have to manufactre the receiver yourself. Now if you bought a nodak spud or any other 100% receiver, now they might take the job.
It's a liability issue. If you need help I can help you out, but using a flat, you have to do a majority of the receiver work.
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you can have someone bend the flat,heat treat the flat and rail,but you have to install the rails yourself,not too hard with rail jigs,all the jigs you need you can buy online,ak-builders is a good place to start.
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?disp...ategory_id=169 sometimes you can find people who will rent or sell these tools. They also sell polish pre bent 80% recievers,thou you can find them cheaper elsewhere,I think copes dist still has them and they could use our support,also maybe sportsmans guide Last edited by Pumkinking; 06-25-2013 at 7:14 PM.. |
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What I said was spot on and legal. If it was not,why is it you can buy this and its still a 80% receiver? http://www.copesdistributing.com/pol...39-p-5417.html I re-read what you said...you didnt read what I said correctly and shot from the hip half cocked huh Last edited by Pumkinking; 06-25-2013 at 9:21 PM.. |
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those polish pre-bent 80% receivers dont' start off the same way the common "flats" do. AFAIK, nobody sells the flat used to make those receivers, so that is basically a false argument.
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And you still need the rails installed to be a receiver. edit:I dont remember what country they were from,but I do remember Tapco sold them,back when they used to sell cool stuff. also,are the holes in the new flat drilled to diameter or pre drill pilot hole? Last edited by Pumkinking; 06-25-2013 at 10:17 PM.. |
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and they do offer those pre-bent 80%'ers with the rails already welded in. unless you can prove that ATF now says that rails can't be pre-installed, my guess would be that they dont' install the rails since there is some tolerances in the rail placement depending on the front trunnion. I'd hate to have the rails pre-installed and then have the bolt smash into the trunnion because the rails were welded in too high.
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ak-builder leaves the undersized so you can ream to final dimension, especially since the trigger holes are so close to the bend. if the hole was final dimension and then you bent it, the hole would be distorted.
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pumkin is bringing up uncommon pre-bent 80% AK recievers and the flats that apparently are available without any holes at all. I guess if you had one of those flats it would be legal to have someone else bend it for you so that it looked like one of those pre-bent 80%'s. Why you'd want to do that, I dunno?
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