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Old 10-19-2019, 11:26 PM
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Default Recommendation Non Electric Heater

When power goes out during deep winter months. What do Calgunners recommend as indoor room heating. Assume I don't have access to firewood or fireplace.
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Old 10-20-2019, 5:19 AM
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propane heater how big an area are you going to heat ? TRy craigslist and ebay. Where are you located?

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Old 10-20-2019, 6:58 AM
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Make sure you have proper ventilation, like a chimney. Death from carbon monoxide poisoning isn't fun.
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Old 10-20-2019, 6:59 AM
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Do a lot of baking.
You need at least a duel tank.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/search/mr heater/heating?cm_mmc=SEM-_-Google-_-Heating-_-MrHeaterBroadTaxRespAd&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi7DtBRCLARIsA GCJWBqTsQ9ZF_8b6RJlei5C8yDJtNUWgdJ8wcbtmPDvPAsQjrJ EvGDn0k4aAuqxEALw_wcB
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:23 AM
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Delete. Wrong thread
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:25 AM
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also, be careful with open/unprotected flames

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Make sure you have proper ventilation, like a chimney. Death from carbon monoxide poisoning isn't fun.
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Old 10-20-2019, 11:46 AM
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i use this but also have a battery powered co detector and keep a window slightly open

https://www.amazon.com/Home-Foldable...33669244150446


i also have a dynaglo but i like this one because a 30 pound tank fit inside
its operation is a bit odd it has no pilot only setting it has pilot/one panel then 1,2,3 panel heat

the way they work is fairly safe

also had kerosene for years but its smelly only 2 places in town sells kero and if it spills and catches fire you are not going to have a good time
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Old 10-20-2019, 1:35 PM
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For temporary use during a power outage, blankets are cheap and safe.
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Old 10-20-2019, 2:25 PM
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For temporary use during a power outage, blankets are cheap and safe.
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Old 10-20-2019, 2:53 PM
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Don’t forget to include a carbon monoxide detector
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Old 10-20-2019, 3:11 PM
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The trick of course is getting into bed and having a cover over yourself that's very insulated maybe even highly rated winter sleeping bag that keep your body fully enclosed.

Two other suggestions, the first one I've used it's the old Zippo pocket warmers. they work off any liquid lighter fluid and although they are sometimes a pain to start once they get going they will keep your hands, pockets (or even for a short time only, under your covers) warm for quite a long while. If you use those keep in mind the only way to turn them off is deny them all oxygen and then if you want to keep the fluid from evaporating you should double or triple plastic bag it or just like a Zippo lighter it'll all evaporate.


They also make electric hand warmers and electric socks that run off 9 volt batteries or even rechargeable lithium but I don't know if when you say "no electric" heat do you include items like those smaller ones that could be powered off a solar panel or car battery.

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Old 10-21-2019, 9:19 AM
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If you chose to go propane keep in mind how much propane they use.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:49 AM
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Mr.Buddy portable heater
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:19 AM
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What everyone else said. However, if you are looking at long term heating like during a societal collapse, you may need to invest in a wood stove and have a deep stock of aged firewood. If you somewhere where you cant do this, you may need to plan to hunker down for a month or two then move to a recently vacated place nearby that has a fire place and wood supply.

One other ingenuous trick one of my neighbors did during a power outage in the winter was to boil water on their gas stove. The steam both warmed and humidified the air making it feel so much warmer than it actually was.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:35 PM
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You guys know it's OK to use your cold weather gear in the house right? Snow pants/parka/gloves/head cover etc; you can use a pop up tent inside the house to add dead air to your actual sleeping space.

This question all depends on how long the power is out and how cold it is before you NEED to heat your domicile.

When it's in the 30's - 40's you can get small and close/seal off some rooms and registers and only use rooms you can heat easily. The smaller the space the easier it is to warm up. The colder it gets the smaller you get. NO, that's no pea pea joke you yucksters you. Although that's biologically / physiologically correct for the male of our species, but I digress.

Bring in the dog/s and cat/s and the temps will rise in the sleeping room.

Remember the rockers called "3 dog night"?
Well that's how they did it in the old days. 3 dogs on the bed keeping you warm.
A 3 dog night was a very cold night.

Most of these techniques are proven to work. At the very least you can stretch the fuel in your genny or your wood pile for months or until things warm up in the spring.

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Old 10-21-2019, 8:28 PM
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There is some great stuff in The Warming Store. Battery powered heated jackets and pants.


http://https://www.thewarmingstore.com/
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Old 10-21-2019, 9:01 PM
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Wool blankets. Ones that are 80-90%+ wool.
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Old 10-25-2019, 7:41 PM
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Mr.Buddy portable heater
Yes, this.
https://www.amazon.com/Mr-Heater-F23.../dp/B002G51BZU or its larger version.

I used it tent camping above Bridgeport a couple weeks ago, was awesome.
Although it has safety features, I bought a carbon monoxide detector as an additional layer of safety.

The Portable will burn thru one 1lb propane canister in 4 hrs, so you're gonna want a decent supply. Its larger versions can be hooked up to large propane tank, but the mfgr recommends the large propane tanks be kept outside.

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i use the little dyna glow "tag-a-long" 8000 btu also but a propane only lasts about 2.5 hours on high and about 3 hours on low i have a bunch of the little cans i refill every summer

they are great for heating up the bathroom for a shi# or shower

i dont think they make them anymore though

the propane cabinet heaters are just better for bigger rooms also you can splice in a timer between the thermocouple and tip switch

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Propane or electricity is going to get used up very fast. Use good clothing and blankets. Scarves and knit caps as well. Save the electricity and propane for more important things.
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