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Old 05-14-2016, 10:57 PM
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Hi fellow calgunners, so I have a pretty stupid issue with my m&p 15 sport. The issue is, majority of mags I put into my gun, fall out without me pressing the mag release. This happens with my Hexmags, and the generic gi "type" mags. Only mag it hasent happend to is my pmag and the 10 rounder that came with rifle. I changed the mag catch out, but to no avail. Would you guys happen to have any advice for me and how to resolve this issue? Thanks guys.
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adjust the bullet button. sounds like it is not tight enough.
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Mag catch and try to adjust your bullet button,and also ditch the Hexmags.
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:11 PM
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I had the same issue with my M&P15T lower. I thought it was the Hexmag but it wasn't that. It turned out it was my magazine catch system. It was a Black Rain Ordnance and had a thin cheap like spring. So I ordered a Strike Industries mag catch/bullet button and haven't had an issue since. The spring is a bit wider and slightly thicker material.
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Old 05-14-2016, 11:12 PM
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Hex mags are fine. Just tighten the button itself.
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Like they said!
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:38 AM
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I have a raddlock on there guys. I have tightened the raddlock to its very limit, same issue. :/
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Add the o-rings that came with radd lock
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I'm not trying to insult your intelligence by any means when I ask this (as it's happened to me) but did you firmly slap up on the bottom of the magazine?
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Old 05-15-2016, 7:01 AM
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Take off your upper from your lower and look at your magazine catch. Look down the magazine well while inserting different mags. What do you see? Is the catch working correctly? Is the catch fully seated when no magazine is in the lower?
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Hey we were all new once. Sounds like these guys have already diagnosed your problem. Hope you get it worked out quick and can enjoy your rifle.
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Also sounds like a rather loose fitting lower. P-mags drop easy but SS can vary. I have some new Grendel ASC mags that are very tight in a JD Machine lower, I have to pull them out after releasing the latch.
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Add the o-rings that came with radd lock
That I have not tried, but will do so promptly!
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I'm not trying to insult your intelligence by any means when I ask this (as it's happened to me) but did you firmly slap up on the bottom of the magazine?
None taken!, new info is always welcome! I did try slapping the mags on the bottom empty and full, but still they fall right out. Could it be an issue with my lower?
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Take off your upper from your lower and look at your magazine catch. Look down the magazine well while inserting different mags. What do you see? Is the catch working correctly? Is the catch fully seated when no magazine is in the lower?
Mag catch is engaging the groove on all the mags from what I can tell. Maybe another new mag catch is in order?
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Old 05-15-2016, 11:33 AM
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Hey we were all new once. Sounds like these guys have already diagnosed your problem. Hope you get it worked out quick and can enjoy your rifle.
Definitely alot of support from everybody, and I seriously appreciate it! The calgun community rocks!
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Also sounds like a rather loose fitting lower. P-mags drop easy but SS can vary. I have some new Grendel ASC mags that are very tight in a JD Machine lower, I have to pull them out after releasing the latch.
That's my biggest fear. Sounds like s&w made their lowers out of spec maybe? My Hexmags and gi type mags wobble like a MF, but the pmag and original mag have very minimal amount of wobble.
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If not that then maybe its the ammo.
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Try this..vary rare and odd but I ran across this a time or 2. Try only loading 9 rounds instead of 10.
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I don't think the problem is your magazine catch. If you want to try another part I would get another bullet button (the cheap simple kind) but not a raddlock type and see what happens. Do you have a buddy with an AR? You can compare the both to see what different in yours.
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Try this..vary rare and odd but I ran across this a time or 2. Try only loading 9 rounds instead of 10.
I haven't seen a mag NOT seat from this but a filled magazine can be tougher. I load all my 30 rounders to 27. It's a common thing.

Will the magazine fit with the bolt open?
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I'd contact S&W to inquire about warranty if nothing else works.
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Try this..vary rare and odd but I ran across this a time or 2. Try only loading 9 rounds instead of 10.
The mag could have no ammo and it still falls out. :/
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I don't think the problem is your magazine catch. If you want to try another part I would get another bullet button (the cheap simple kind) but not a raddlock type and see what happens. Do you have a buddy with an AR? You can compare the both to see what different in yours.
It happend with the original BB and also happens with the Raddlock. FML. And unfortunately none of my friends have AR's only handguns. :/
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I'd contact S&W to inquire about warranty if nothing else works.
I have called S&w but they said it is a mag problem, that I wasn't using the correct mags. On 3 occasions they said that, so I just gave up.
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How about the seller? If you purchased it from a local gun shop, they may be willing to look at it.
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Lgs is always an option.
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How about the seller? If you purchased it from a local gun shop, they may be willing to look at it.
Unfortunately it was bought at a private sale, and last year at that! But everything is good now! Installed a StrIke industries mag catch, and fired 100 rounds through all my problem mags and not 1 failure!
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If you don't mind me asking, what's an Lgs?
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Update everybody! Installed a Strike industries mag catch and everything is 100%! I can't thank you guys enough! Calguns is the most helpful community of people any person can ask for! Seriously guys, thank you!
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Ahh, I see! Thank god there's no need for that, my rifle works and I can't be happier! Thank you for the input!
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I had the same issue with my M&P15T lower. I thought it was the Hexmag but it wasn't that. It turned out it was my magazine catch system. It was a Black Rain Ordnance and had a thin cheap like spring. So I ordered a Strike Industries mag catch/bullet button and haven't had an issue since. The spring is a bit wider and slightly thicker material.
Strike industries helped my problem as well, shout out to you BernieO for the recommendation!
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Just FYI - I had this once, the shelf under the mag release latch pocket was not proper (too thick) and had to be milled a hair. No matter what I tried - BB, springs, different release levers and buttons, it happened. Milling it thinner by the manufacturer fixed it.
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