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Old 01-30-2008, 1:13 PM
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It's the best performing brake you can buy.
I personally think it's ugly, but I may indeed run one on my barrel because performance is the only REASON for a brake...
you mean it's not a fashion statement? .
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As buildup occurs as well as slight deformations in the mating surfaces, it doesn't stay timed. This is info from many gunsmiths, not just me saying it. If one were so inclined, and had a dremel or the likes, this could easily be remedied.
I mate them really hard on the first installation.
After that, they are pretty solid.

Of course you have to clean the surfaces when re-installing, but removing and installing is not something you would do weekly anyways.

In the end, it's a non-issue.
Any brake can be removed and re-installed multiple times without problems.
You don't "re-index" a brake each time you install it if it was done right the first time.
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you mean it's not a fashion statement? .
Exactly.

Do I look like someone trying to make a fashion statement?

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I was thinking about keeping a good selection of Krylon around.. I want my rifle to match what I wear.

It'll be part of my hustle at the matches..
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Exactly.

Do I look like someone trying to make a fashion statement?
Only if your statement is "I don't give a crap"
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Only if your statement is "I don't give a crap"
Ding Ding Ding.
We got a winner.
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Ding Ding Ding.
We got a winner.
Wonder how it would work out if I used the same answer the next time a girl asks me "So how do I look?"
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Wonder how it would work out if I used the same answer the next time a girl asks me "So how do I look?"
Probably not as good as it could have otherwise.
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Just got quoted from GAP on the price of a Stiller TAC338 Barreled action.. $1600. Just got to see how much R+D can do it for now.
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Exactly.

Do I look like someone trying to make a fashion statement?

what are you talking about? flannel is back in.
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Just got quoted from GAP on the price of a Stiller TAC338 Barreled action.. $1600. Just got to see how much R+D can do it for now.
$700 action, $330 barrel, $30 recoil, $150 duracoat = $390 to chamber! wow! that's gap. it's like spending $200 on true religion jeans. nice, buy dayam expensive. name brand. go figure.

r+d all the way. randy only builds one kind of rifles. tack drivers. no fluff, just tack drivers.

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$700 action, $330 barrel, $30 recoil, $150 duracoat = $390 to chamber! wow! that's gap. it's like spending $200 on true religion jeans. nice, buy dayam expensive. name brand. go figure.
Good thing he does not need to shorten the barrel blank, crown the muzzle, thread the barrel for the action and cut the bolt counterbore.

Oh wait, he does have to do all that along with chambering the barrel.

What does Randy charge for the same work?
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$700 action, $330 barrel, $30 recoil, $150 duracoat = $390 to chamber! wow! that's gap. it's like spending $200 on true religion jeans. nice, buy dayam expensive. name brand. go figure.

r+d all the way. randy only builds one kind of rifles. tack drivers. no fluff, just tack drivers.
Actually.. the action runs $900 with the lug already pinned. Don't think they duracoat.. so yeah.. still ~$400 to chamber.
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Good thing he does not need to shorten the barrel blank, crown the muzzle, thread the barrel for the action and cut the bolt counterbore.

Oh wait, he does have to do all that along with chambering the barrel.

What does Randy charge for the same work?
$200
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$200
Sweet. Now I just need to get him to commit after the SHOT Show. That $200 saving will help me offset the price of the 100 brass I bought.
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Sweet. Now I just need to get him to commit after the SHOT Show. That $200 saving will help me offset the price of the 100 brass I bought.

as long as he has the reamer for it. if he doesn't he charges you for the reamer. but 338 should be good.
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as long as he has the reamer for it. if he doesn't he charges you for the reamer.
Does he keep the reamer or do you get it after the job?
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338 huh? Im interested to see how much you use it. If it was mine, I would be shooting across canyons on a weekly basis. But whos to say my stuff get used?
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Sweet. Now I just need to get him to commit after the SHOT Show. That $200 saving will help me offset the price of the 100 brass I bought.
I don't think you should have a problem. He likes working on stillers and his prices can't be beat.

What contour did you want on the barrel?
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I don't think you should have a problem. He likes working on stillers and his prices can't be beat.

What contour did you want on the barrel?
MTU.. so just a little thicker and heavier than AMU. Still going to be a 1.250 breach so it doesn't become overly heavy. Both Randy and George tell me that it'll be just fine

Truth be told, i'd love to do business with George cause he's real helpful and responsive.. but his prices are just too high. If I had money to burn, I'd certainly go with him.
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338 huh? Im interested to see how much you use it. If it was mine, I would be shooting across canyons on a weekly basis. But whos to say my stuff get used?
I plan to improve myself as a shooter with my .308 first. Once I feel that my skills are developed to my satisfaction, I'll start using my .300 WM for further skill development at more extended ranges and maintenance at shorter ones. I have no intention of using my .338 as my standard weekly shooter. I'll probably shoot it a bit once a month and use it when I have access to 1600+ yds.

Everything has a purpose. The 6.5 Grendel will be used when i'm not restricted to bolt action
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I guess whatever floats your boat right? I got the camcorder linned up to see how much a waist of money it is. U bash me I do the same Its just how it goes right...... Its just gona be easier for me now.......... Goes for the rest of you now too. Its all fun and games I hope noone gets mad, can you take it like you dish it?

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I guess whatever floats your boat right? I got the camcorder linned up to see how much a waist of money it is. U bash me I do the same Its just how it goes right...... Its just gona be easier for me now.......... Goes for the rest of you now too. Its all fun and games I hope noone gets mad, can you take it like you dish it?
Haha. I don't get mad.. but I do seek proof and resolution. We've been trying to get you to come out for a friendly challenge but something always coincidentally comes up and all we get are excuses instead of action. We invite you to shut us up.. or at least try You claim the skill and the equipment, so come show us and back-up what you say. Or you can bust out with the "I've got nothing to prove" line again.

In the end it's just all fun and games.. and a bit of pride
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Hey man im sorry......... Sometimes ive got priorities.... School and work pays for that! Its more important then shooting right now. Im going outside to load some bullets so i can come out and **** around. I gotta throw my SSS trigger on and sight it in this weekend. Prolly friday morning Im going out.
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You guys crack me up. I think I'm the only one thats talked with Adam enough to realize he isn't blowing smoke. It is VERY coincidental that he doesn't have anything to shoot when a challenge comes up, but thats just the way it is. When we were out there during the class, he was ringin' the steel with the majority of us. In fact, didn't you miss quite a bit, Jason, at the 500 yard steel? I know you guys like to have a whipping boy and all, but dayum, this is getting out of hand.

On the other hand, you could continue on and spur each other a bit and it will probably force a little more practice out of all of us.
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I have no intention of using my .338 as my standard weekly shooter. I'll probably shoot it a bit once a month and use it when I have access to 1600+ yds.
Getting a 30-40 MOA base are we?
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AM i not the only one hit hit the 3" poper at 600 yards or whatever it was? I didnt have cheat sheet eather. It was made my guess and Adams great knowledge. Nothing is printed about my caliber or anything. Im wondering my drop for 2926 FPS with 190gr SMKS and an 26.5" barrel?
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Prolly friday morning Im going out.
I have friday off.
Where are we going?
I have not shot in 5 days and I need to shoot something at least once a week.
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AM i not the only one hit hit the 3" poper at 600 yards or whatever it was? I didnt have cheat sheet eather. It was made my guess and Adams great knowledge. Nothing is printed about my caliber or anything. Im wondering my drop for 2926 FPS with 190gr SMKS and an 26.5" barrel?
Screw the 190 SMK, go with the 155 scenar at 3150 or so. Flatter and less wind.
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Were are you at? Theres a place likes Petes I goto..... I might go there, its a secret.


I shoot 210gr VLDS and 208gr AMAX now. I just have 150 loaded up.
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I know you guys like to have a whipping boy and all, but dayum, this is getting out of hand.
Someone always has to be the whipping boy.
We need Tom back.

They used to give me crap about not shooting precision rifles.
I think it's just showing up that helps more than being a good shot.
I finally showed up for my first match and did ok so I guess I get a pass for a while.
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Im wondering my drop for 2926 FPS with 190gr SMKS and an 26.5" barrel?
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 Tabular trajectory data at Non-Std. Atmosphere
 Gunsite altitude : 3700 ft.
 Air density      : 0.072982 lb./ft³
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 Gun / Ammunition : .30-06 Spring.
 Bullet           : .308, 190, Sierra HP MatchK 2210
 Bullet weight    : 190 grains or 12.31 Grams
 Muzzle velocity  : 2925 fps
 Crosswind speed  : 5 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1): 
 C1=0.524@V>2100 fps;
 C2=0.516@V>1600 fps;
 C3=0.506@V>0 fps;


 Optimum trajectory information : 
 Optimum sight-in range (X) = 225 Yds. 
 with max. ordinate above LOS at range (M)= 134 Yds.
 and max. point blank range (P)= 261 Yds.
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 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 0.915 cm/100 yd. or 0.36 in/100 yd.
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.334 cm or 2.10 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
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 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path    Deflection    Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to    at crosswind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 5.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
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·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
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|    0  2925  0.0000   3609    -2.1    0.0   -----     0.0   ------    -----    0.00
|   25  2882  0.0258   3502    -1.2    0.0    0.07     0.1    +13.0    +4.47    0.28
|   50  2839  0.0521   3399    -0.5    0.1    0.14     0.5     +2.8    +0.97    0.57
|   75  2796  0.0789   3298    -0.1    0.2    0.22     1.2     +0.4    +0.14    0.86
M   98  2757  0.1039   3207     0.0    0.3    0.29     2.0      0.0     0.00    1.14
X  100  2754  0.1060   3199     0.0    0.3    0.29     2.1      0.0     0.00    1.16
|  125  2712  0.1336   3103    -0.2    0.5    0.36     3.4     +0.4    +0.14    1.46
|  150  2671  0.1616   3009    -0.6    0.7    0.44     4.9     +1.2    +0.41    1.77
|  175  2630  0.1900   2918    -1.4    0.9    0.50     6.7     +2.3    +0.78    2.08
P  189  2607  0.2061   2868    -2.0    1.1    0.54     7.9     +2.9    +1.01    2.25
|  200  2590  0.2188   2829    -2.5    1.2    0.57     8.9     +3.5    +1.20    2.39
|  225  2549  0.2479   2741    -3.9    1.5    0.64    11.3     +4.8    +1.67    2.71
|  250  2510  0.2774   2656    -5.6    1.8    0.71    14.1     +6.3    +2.16    3.03
|  275  2470  0.3072   2573    -7.6    2.2    0.77    17.2     +7.8    +2.67    3.36
|  300  2431  0.3375   2492   -10.0    2.6    0.84    20.7     +9.4    +3.22    3.69
|  325  2392  0.3685   2413   -12.8    3.1    0.91    24.5    +11.0    +3.79    4.03
|  350  2354  0.4001   2336   -16.0    3.6    0.99    28.8    +12.8    +4.39    4.38
|  375  2316  0.4323   2261   -19.6    4.2    1.07    33.4    +14.6    +5.01    4.73
|  400  2278  0.4652   2188   -23.6    4.8    1.15    38.5    +16.4    +5.65    5.09
|  425  2240  0.4985   2117   -28.0    5.5    1.24    44.0    +18.4    +6.32    5.45
|  450  2203  0.5324   2048   -32.9    6.2    1.32    49.9    +20.3    +7.00    5.82
|  475  2167  0.5669   1980   -38.2    7.0    1.41    56.3    +22.4    +7.70    6.20
|  500  2130  0.6019   1914   -43.9    7.8    1.50    63.1    +24.5    +8.41    6.58
|  525  2094  0.6374   1850   -50.2    8.7    1.58    70.4    +26.6    +9.14    6.97
|  550  2058  0.6734   1786   -56.8    9.6    1.67    78.1    +28.7    +9.89    7.36
|  575  2022  0.7098   1725   -64.0   10.6    1.76    86.3    +31.0   +10.65    7.76
|  600  1987  0.7466   1665   -71.6   11.5    1.84    95.0    +33.2   +11.41    8.17
|  625  1951  0.7840   1606   -79.7   12.6    1.92   104.1    +35.5   +12.20    8.57
|  650  1916  0.8225   1549   -88.5   13.7    2.01   114.0    +37.8   +13.02    8.99
|  675  1882  0.8619   1494   -97.9   14.9    2.11   124.5    +40.3   +13.87    9.43
|  700  1848  0.9023   1440  -108.0   16.2    2.21   135.7    +42.9   +14.76    9.87
|  725  1815  0.9437   1389  -118.9   17.6    2.32   147.6    +45.6   +15.68   10.32
|  750  1782  0.9859   1339  -130.4   19.1    2.43   160.2    +48.3   +16.63   10.78
|  775  1749  1.0289   1291  -142.7   20.6    2.54   173.5    +51.2   +17.60   11.25
|  800  1717  1.0727   1244  -155.7   22.2    2.65   187.6    +54.1   +18.61   11.73
|  825  1686  1.1173   1199  -169.5   23.9    2.76   202.4    +57.1   +19.64   12.22
|  850  1655  1.1627   1155  -184.0   25.6    2.88   218.0    +60.1   +20.69   12.72
|  875  1624  1.2087   1113  -199.3   27.4    2.99   234.3    +63.3   +21.76   13.22
|  900  1594  1.2554   1071  -215.3   29.2    3.10   251.4    +66.5   +22.86   13.73
|  925  1563  1.3028   1031  -232.1   31.2    3.22   269.3    +69.7   +23.98   14.25
|  950  1533  1.3509    992  -249.6   33.1    3.33   287.9    +73.0   +25.11   14.77
|  975  1504  1.3995    954  -268.0   35.2    3.44   307.3    +76.4   +26.26   15.31
| 1000  1475  1.4492    918  -287.4   37.3    3.56   327.8    +79.8   +27.46   15.85
| 1025  1447  1.5002    883  -307.9   39.5    3.68   349.4    +83.5   +28.71   16.41
| 1050  1420  1.5526    850  -329.7   41.9    3.81   372.2    +87.2   +30.01   16.98
| 1075  1393  1.6061    819  -352.8   44.3    3.94   396.3    +91.2   +31.36   17.56
| 1100  1368  1.6607    789  -377.0   46.9    4.07   421.6    +95.2   +32.75   18.16
| 1125  1343  1.7164    761  -402.5   49.5    4.20   448.2    +99.4   +34.18   18.77
| 1150  1319  1.7729    733  -429.1   52.2    4.34   475.9   +103.6   +35.65   19.39
| 1175  1295  1.8303    707  -457.0   55.0    4.47   504.8   +108.0   +37.16   20.02
| 1200  1272  1.8885    682  -486.0   57.9    4.61   534.9   +112.5   +38.69   20.65
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Hey Randall, does that program list 3 BC's for the 155 scenar? Haven't been able to find but the .508 they list.
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Were are you at? Theres a place likes Petes I goto..... I might go there, its a secret.


I shoot 210gr VLDS and 208gr AMAX now. I just have 150 loaded up.
Culver City, but I can meet up about anywhere...

Give me velocities or loads and I'll run them through quickload/quicktarget.
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Hey Randall, does that program list 3 BC's for the 155 scenar? Haven't been able to find but the .508 they list.
No.
I wish I had some boundary BC's for Scenars.
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In fact, didn't you miss quite a bit, Jason, at the 500 yard steel? I know you guys like to have a whipping boy and all, but dayum, this is getting out of hand.

On the other hand, you could continue on and spur each other a bit and it will probably force a little more practice out of all of us.
Yeah.. but that just means i'll be easy to beat And it was 400 yds.
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Yeah.. but that just means i'll be easy to beat And it was 400 yds.
Well, the 338 should help with that. It'll be a laser, and probably crater the steel.
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Someone always has to be the whipping boy.
We need Tom back.
The irony of it all is that the SCPRC was his idea! You topped the cake when you said the reason he doesn't shoot a 700P instead of his Savage is because he can't afford it
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Well, the 338 should help with that. It'll be a laser, and probably crater the steel.
Na. I'm not getting flatter and harder shooters to improve my shooting.. I wouldn't be learning anything. It's just to progressively increase my skill and knowledge base.
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Na. I'm not getting flatter and harder shooters to improve my shooting.. I wouldn't be learning anything. It's just to progressively increase my skill and knowledge base.
I hear ya. I'm just giving you a hard time. The 338 is one to not even worry about pulling the trigger unless its 800 or beyond.
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