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Old 09-23-2018, 7:02 AM
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NV is very gun friendly and I know I can simply "unconceal" my handgun traversing the state from CA. If I have to leave the gun in the car I'll put it in a lock box, but is that the law in NV or is simply locking the loaded gun (out of sight) sufficient in that state?
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NV is very gun friendly. Carrying a loaded gun in the car is okay. To carry on your person in a car you need a CCW. I always keep a loaded gun in the center console when I travel there. As soon as I cross the state line I pull over, grab the gun, chamber a round and keep it in the glove compartment.
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NV is very gun friendly. Carrying a loaded gun in the car is okay. To carry on your person in a car you need a CCW. I always keep a loaded gun in the center console when I travel there. As soon as I cross the state line I pull over, grab the gun, chamber a round and keep it in the glove compartment.
You are partially correct. You may LOC on your person without a CCW. You may also have a loaded gun in your vehicle concealed in the glove box, center console,etc. without a CCW. You only need a CCW if you are going to "Conceal Upon Your Person." Nevada law defines a vehicle as an extension of your home so no CCW is required as long as you don't conceal it upon your person. As soon as you do that you must have a CCW.
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NV is very gun friendly. Carrying a loaded gun in the car is okay. To carry on your person in a car you need a CCW. I always keep a loaded gun in the center console when I travel there. As soon as I cross the state line I pull over, grab the gun, chamber a round and keep it in the glove compartment.
Whats the difference having the chamber loaded vs. not?

Whats the difference center console vs. glove compartment?
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Steer clear of Vegas from what I've read earlier
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I've visited several websites and they covered every situation (including above) except stating explicit the law regarding a loaded firearm left unattended in a vehicle. I suspect as long as out of sight your good, but it's easy living in CA to be paranoid. I'm 5 weeks from moving at to ID at which point I won't give a rip about CA and the enhanced carry in ID is good in NV.
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I use this site when I'm traveling. Of course you still want to go to the states website and verify info....

http://www.handgunlaw.us

Here's the page for Nevada;

Nevada

Look at page 6.
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If it's been said once it's been said a thousand times, for like $150 total or less get an AZ/NV/UT/FL non resident CCW. If you travel it only makes sense. It doesn't "fix" everything, but there is no downside to owning one and it eases the rules in about 2/3 of the states.
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Whats the difference having the chamber loaded vs. not?

Whats the difference center console vs. glove compartment?
None and none!
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If it's been said once it's been said a thousand times, for like $150 total or less get an AZ/NV/UT/FL non resident CCW. If you travel it only makes sense. It doesn't "fix" everything, but there is no downside to owning one and it eases the rules in about 2/3 of the states.
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NV is very gun friendly and I know I can simply "unconceal" my handgun traversing the state from CA. If I have to leave the gun in the car I'll put it in a lock box, but is that the law in NV or is simply locking the loaded gun (out of sight) sufficient in that state?
NV legal options:
A. Open carry.
B. Place your loaded handgun in your vehicle's glove/utility compartment or in the locked container attached to the vehicle.


NV conceal carry laws prohibits any type of conceal carry of a handgun without having a valid carry permit.
^This includes a property owner being on their own property and a person being in their own residence.

NV case laws indicate that...
1. Firearm in a portable container on or near the body is considered conceal carry.
2. Unloaded and in a locked container is an exemption to NV conceal carry laws due to this method complying with Federal laws for transporting firearms.
^Loaded and in a locked portable container on or near the body would not be exempt from NV conceal carry laws because that does not meet the Federal requirements for transporting firearms.


If you freqent NV, obtain an AZ CCW permit or a NV non-resident CCW permit.
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This is difficult to understand. Loaded and placed in an easily accessible glove box is OK.
Loaded and placed in an easily accessible locked box is a no-no? Glad I am getting my AZ CCW.
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This is difficult to understand. Loaded and placed in an easily accessible glove box is OK.
Loaded and placed in an easily accessible locked box is a no-no? Glad I am getting my AZ CCW.
Loaded or unloaded in the vehicle's glove or utility compartment is good-to-go.

Loaded or unloaded in a locked box attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Unloaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Loaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is no-go.
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Loaded or unloaded in the vehicle's glove or utility compartment is good-to-go.

Loaded or unloaded in a locked box attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Unloaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Loaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is no-go.
Well that clears it up! I wonder what the thinking process was on this (in bold)?
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Apply for a Utah non resident license. Took a class with ASDI and received my license in less than 3 months!
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Well that clears it up! I wonder what the thinking process was on this (in bold)?
Has to do with NV case laws regarding what is "concealed upon the person".

NV case laws determined that a firearm in a portable container on or near the body is considered conceal carry.

Portable container being a bag, pack, purse, case, or similar container that can be carried by a person.
A locked box that can be carried by a person meets what is a portable container.

Which means per NV case laws, a handgun in a locked box that can be carried by a person requires a valid carry permit.

The NV AG Office further clarified this by determining that, since Federal laws [18 USC 926A] allows for the legal transportation of an unloaded firearm in a locked container, an unloaded handgun in a locked container would be an exempt condition from NV conceal carry laws.

Which means...
Unloaded handgun in portable locked container = NV legal due to Federal laws.
Loaded handgun in portable container = NV illegal conceal carry, unless the possessor has a valid carry permit.
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Steer clear of Vegas from what I've read earlier
The NV legislature changed the laws regarding Vegas and Clark County a few years ago. They are now in line with the rest of the state. Some casinos may have their own policy regarding firearms, especially if you plan to OC. Use good judgement. Otherwise, Vegas still has to comply with state law.

OC is legal on the strip. You may get some attention, but if that's about it if you are doing nothing illegal/wrong. That being said, can does not always equal should.
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Has to do with NV case laws regarding what is "concealed upon the person".

NV case laws determined that a firearm in a portable container on or near the body is considered conceal carry.

Portable container being a bag, pack, purse, case, or similar container that can be carried by a person.
A locked box that can be carried by a person meets what is a portable container.

Which means per NV case laws, a handgun in a locked box that can be carried by a person requires a valid carry permit.

The NV AG Office further clarified this by determining that, since Federal laws [18 USC 926A] allows for the legal transportation of an unloaded firearm in a locked container, an unloaded handgun in a locked container would be an exempt condition from NV conceal carry laws.

Which means...
Unloaded handgun in portable locked container = NV legal due to Federal laws.
Loaded handgun in portable container = NV illegal conceal carry, unless the possessor has a valid carry permit.
Thank you, you took more time then I deserve explaining this to me. Like I wrote earlier, I am in the process of getting my AZ CCW, so I don't need to worry about the border crossing anymore.
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Appears that a locked glove box or center console would be ok in NV. I just don't like loading/unloading in a car if I can help it.
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I am going thru nv on way to az and all firearms will be unloaded in locked containers per fed law.

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I am goint thru nv on way to az and allfirearms will be unloaded in locked containers per fed law.
If this were universally the case then states wouldn't be able to have contrary law(s). I believe the federal law in this area is intended to allow unloaded transportation (trunk or locked container) of handguns in certain areas where otherwise prohibited by local law.

States, Oregon for example, do appear to allow transportation of loaded handguns when properly secured and the excellent explanation of NV law appears to allow transport of a loaded handgun in a locked container that is not portable. Glove , box and center console would appear, if locked, to satisfy ths requirement

Probably wasn't worth asking since I'm moving to Idaho and an Enhanced CCW works for OR and NV. I'll be giving up my ability to carry in CA, but I won't be coming back here much.
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If this were universally the case then states wouldn't be able to have contrary law(s). I believe the federal law in this area is intended to allow unloaded transportation (trunk or locked container) of handguns in certain areas where otherwise prohibited by local law.

States, Oregon for example, do appear to allow transportation of loaded handguns when properly secured and the excellent explanation of NV law appears to allow transport of a loaded handgun in a locked container that is not portable. Glove , box and center console would appear, if locked, to satisfy ths requirement

Probably wasn't worth asking since I'm moving to Idaho and an Enhanced CCW works for OR and NV. I'll be giving up my ability to carry in CA, but I won't be coming back here much.
Incorrect. Oregon does not recognize any other states CCW. They are may issue for residents of bordering states so if you want to carry concealed in Oregon you will need to get an Oregon CCW from a county that is willing to issue to non-reidents.
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Loaded or unloaded in the vehicle's glove or utility compartment is good-to-go.

Loaded or unloaded in a locked box attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Unloaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is good-to-go.

Loaded in a locked box that is not attached to the vehicle is no-go.
This is the way the law indeed reads. There probably should be a forum address travel issues aside from CCW so the two questions don't get confused. I believe, but would not swear to it, that the OR situation is similar based on looking at several websites. True, you need a recognized CCW to conceal carry in OR, but locked in a contain I believe a loaded handgun is allowed (not a rifle); not sure about attached or separate, but I believe it can't be within reach or some such.
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