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Old 10-01-2018, 8:12 AM
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Yes. Church is where you should be hearing a properly educated pastor preach The Gospel and minister to the needs of the believers. You don't really get this with a fellowship.

However the key thing is a good church with a pastor who is faithful to God's Word. No theatrics and ear-tickling.
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I've found a healthy a d supportive community of like minded people at my local church in the OC. It's not lead by mangina snowflakes as previously warned, and the head pastors preach a good, encouraging, and true word. They remind you to tithe, but don't shame you about it. The church does a lot for the community, so I know individuals who give regularly because they believe in it, regardless of how they interpret the Bible.
I know the feeling of needing some personal, breathing space and taking time off, but I'd suggest visiting other congregations instead of breaking up with the church entirely.
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Old 10-01-2018, 9:24 PM
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Depends - some churches are run by manginas and throw the men under the bus. Mark Driscoll is one of the worst - he loves to insult the men in his congregation, from what I've heard. For more info on this, google "Dalrock blog" and read some of the info on the current church idiocy on "servant leadership" and complementiarian doctrine. I know a few preachers who look out for men in the land of divorce lawyers aka USA. They are willing to do no marriage license weddings, religious wedding only. If you want to get married, this is the best chance you have to avoid alimony and divorce rape by the high priced divorce lawyer$. If the priest or preacher demands you get a marriage license - leave ASAP. Watch "DivorceCorp trailer" on Youtube for more info. Try to find a church that doesn't treat men like toilet paper or insult you to your face and tell you to grovel to shrews and nagathas. Not easy to do.

Commenter Sam Obispo: "For post-wall women, church is where they exchange their expired "cock carousel season pass" for access to the "graduates" of the "beta-male provider academy. Men should be as attracted to "former" carousel riders as women are attracted to former millionaires. A woman would never forgive a potential mate for wasting his fortune (meaning: spending it on other women), so a man should not forgive a potential mate for wasting her virtue (on every other man.) "
As my Pastor says NO it is not.
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Old 10-06-2018, 8:10 AM
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If the preacher is putting out propaganda from the pulpit for Communism, Socialism, or Gun Control (many liberal Catholic Jesuit / Maryknoll types do this) or Feminism (telling you to be an obedient "Servant Leader" man$lave and screaming at you to "Man Up" and get a marriage license or "How Dare You!" while AMOGing / putting you down) get up and walk out! Of course your pastor is going to tell you to sit there and put money in the collection plate while filling your ears with these types of garbage and insulting you. He is not the one who is going to wind up in divorce court or bankruptcy court or in jail from following his bad advice.

Here is one preacher "Dr. Paige Patterson" found guilty of committing multiple crimes against feminism: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/0...inst-feminism/

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The church (Body) is there to help you. They canít help if you donít talk to them. Think about it. They are not mind readers.


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Yes. Christians are to go to church, always.
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Yes, definitely. I am Catholic. If I can take a moment to share a little bit about my faith, it is in fact one of the precepts of the Church that we attend mass on all Sundays and holy days of obligation. We should also rest from servile work on this day if at all possible. Keeping the Lord's day is one of the commandments. Of course, some people for reasons of hardship or poor health or some other reasonable and justifiable excuse, may not be able to make Sunday mass, and may not be able to forgo servile work. But we should still make every effort. And whether we can be in church on Sunday or not we should mentally separate this day from the others, to take some time when we have a moment to reflect on God and the mysteries of the faith. For us it's important too, to recognize that the liturgical day technically begins at vespers (evening prayer; basically at sunset.) So there are some hours in the evening of the calendar day of Saturday that are technically Sunday for religious purposes. For that reason, attending a vigil mass on Saturday evening normally fulfills the Sunday obligation.

I wasn't raised Catholic and I lost my faith when I was a teenager/young adult. So I used to hate church. As a kid I dreaded Sundays. Now I look forward to Sunday mass. It's the high point of my entire week and leaves me completely invigorated spiritually, mentally, physically. The church I was raised going to was not a particularly good environment for receiving God's grace and seeing his beauty. Where I go now is a completely different world. It's the closest thing to heaven on earth. The moment I walk in and dip my fingers into the font I'm reminded of the waters of my baptism and feel completely different. When the bells chime something starts to well up in me. By the time the Gloria is being chanted, my mind is completely still and I feel truly ordered towards Christ. Truly it's like the eternal call of the one crying out from the wilderness: make straight the way of the Lord.

Of course my belief is Catholic but I hope all of us, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox, gets to experience and encounter Jesus Christ every week on His day. And I hope and pray everyone who is separated from Him as I separated myself from him for so many years as an atheist, can make their return and feel the peace of Christ. I'd like to share one of my favorite prayers, let this be for the intentions of all brothers in Christ, for Christian unity and for the salvation of souls:

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V. In the name of the Father , and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
R. Amen.
V. Come, Holy Ghost, fill the hearts of Thy faithful, kindle in them the fire of Thy Love.
R. Send forth Thy Spirit, and it shall be created, and Thou shalt renew the face of the earth. Amen.

Let us pray:

O Lord, who hast instructed the hearts of the faithful, by the light of the Holy Ghost, grant we beseech Thee, through the power of the same Spirit, may we ever be truly wise and rejoice in His consolation. Through Christ our Lord, amen.
May the Spirit truly instruct all of our hearts and keep us on a path of righteousness always. Thanks for taking the time to read my post.
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