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Old 03-21-2014, 10:50 AM
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.......- surely your ex can do the math and figure out she is not welcome.......
If there is one thing I have learned from my divorced friends (31yrs married here) is that "ex's" are RARELY able to think logically.

She thought you were worthless for all those years but you can damn sure bet that suddenly you will be the "Most interesting man in the world" in a SHTF situation if she knows you are prepped.
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:48 AM
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If there is one thing I have learned from my divorced friends (31yrs married here) is that "ex's" are RARELY able to think logically.

She thought you were worthless for all those years but you can damn sure bet that suddenly you will be the "Most disinterested man in the world" in a SHTF situation if she knows you are prepped.
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Old 03-22-2014, 4:28 PM
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I was posting from her perspective not his but it is accurate either way.
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Old 03-22-2014, 6:54 PM
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I agree with Steve in 29.
All the child support she spent in the bar, she could have prepped with (or how about spending it on my son?)
That bi**h is on her own
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Old 03-23-2014, 2:54 AM
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In reality the most likely scenario is a short term disruption due to Earthquake. So, you know that life will resume, you don't have enough for one more person for say, 30 days? If not, your preps aren't complete, have some extra "just in case" rations, knowing the ex may show up and the long term results of turning her away will NOT be pleasant!

All the usual Goofy Scenarios, Zombies, Meteor Strikes, etc won't come into play which means NO permanent disruption, the ex will survive and you will just look like a petty douche if you turn the ex away...
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In reality the most likely scenario is a short term disruption due to Earthquake. So, you know that life will resume, you don't have enough for one more person for say, 30 days? If not, your preps aren't complete, have some extra "just in case" rations, knowing the ex may show up and the long term results of turning her away will NOT be pleasant!

All the usual Goofy Scenarios, Zombies, Meteor Strikes, etc won't come into play which means NO permanent disruption, the ex will survive and you will just look like a petty douche if you turn the ex away...
True, for a temporary disruption. It wouldn't be worth the rift in whatever is left in a relationship between you to. Would be better for the kids to just help each other out.
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Old 03-26-2014, 6:20 PM
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I gave the ex and her new husband 1/2 of an Auguson 1 year ,4 person dehydrated food pack for them and my son. I put a safe in their house, gave my son an M4,12gauge, 1911 and 9mm. 2000 rounds of ammo. They have a pool for water and my conscious is clear. When the food runs out they can eat the dog and my son can move in with me!

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How does one deal with an ex-spouse in a survival situation. Lets say I prepped enough from me and my girls. How can I leave their mother and her spouse to fend for themselves? I could do it very easily, don't get me wrong, but I have to consider the girl. How could I explain that Im going to let their mother starve/freeze die etc. What would you do?

Gundad, I feel you man. This is a situation that often troubles my mind, but I usually come to the same conclusion, I'm not responsible for her safety or happiness any longer, that's her Bf's job. Plus, they would likely be bringing 2 other children in tow which are not mine. Besides my son, I would have to provide for 2 sisters and my mother. Of all the people I listed I'm the only one who preps or owns firearms. I've instilled some of that mindset in my son and to a lesser extent my sister, but there wouldn't be enough resources to go around for extra people.

The other serious issue would be what would I do if something happens and my son is with her. Obviously, I'd go for him, but it would be a tricky situation trying to take him, but hopefully she'd understand that she wouldn't be prepared to keep him safe.
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Old 03-27-2014, 1:18 PM
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Ha!

I sent my ex's current BF flowers once in a little while to remind him how grateful I am of him dealing with the SH!ET instead of me!....
That's awesome! I've often felt very grateful and a bit sorry for the other guy lol.
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That's a tough one. Saying "I let her starve" would never work. It would have to be something like

... I was pulling her into the car, but then she tripped and I lost my grip. I ran to pick her up, but the cannibals grabbed her first. I tried to fight them off, but there were too many. I will never forgive myself. I will remember that terrified look in her eyes for the rest of my life ...

and say it with a straight face.
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Old 03-30-2014, 8:49 AM
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Do your kids live with you or does your ex-wife have them? If your ex-wife has the kids, what are the chances she is going to give them up during a emergency. During an emergency are you going to go down there and use force say if the stepdad or exwife gets involved, this is where some say I will use self defense but he stepdad exwife has a right to use home defense to protect those kids.

SHtf is going to lead to a lot of domestic violence in my opinion.
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That could amount to (I think) 3rd Degree Murder or Manslaughter if you have the means to help, but chose not to.

I'd have to double check, it's been a while since I hit the books...

That aside, even if he/she is the most evil, cold hearted person on the planet, he/she is still a human being. The punishment for his/her crimes come later IMO.
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Coming from someone who has divorced parents my pops told me he isn't helping my mom, that is my responsibility. If I was in your position I would tell the ex and her boy toy that they can sleep outside and make their own shelter. I'd make it clear that your responsibility is to them (the kids) since your ex couldn't hang when the going got tough. So yeah, welcome them to your group or your house but let the boy toy know that this is your property, your kids, your rules. If he doesn't like it hit the road jack. If the ex starts barking then tell her she is welcome but she is an adult and you are not responsible for her. If she wants to leave I would tell her that you are going to keep the kids since you have a safe, secure, prepared and warm place for them and that is in their best interest.
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I know this is going to sound crazy to those of us that make stupid decisions, but put on your man pants and suck it up and take responsibility for our actions.
How about us being better parents and raise our own kids to make sound decisions. Better yet, have such a great relationship with our kids they actually listen and respect our advise.
How about if you get divorced and kids are involved, you do not remarry until the kids turn 18. How about putting our children above ourselves.
The fact that the OP asked the question in the first place saddens me.
I agree 110% here, unfortunately, theres alot of folks in Kalifornia that dont think that way.
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For a short time I would certainly help anyone and everyone I can to the point of accepting discomfort for myself. It would be hard for me only in an eotwawki situation where taking 2 people in could cause survival issues for others.
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I had an interesting thought along these lines today. Let's say that the SHTF moment isn't natural disaster but some economic or social catastrophe, say a rebellion against the government or a general socioeconomic collapse. If I am going to need to leave the home and potentially risk my life, I'd rather have my ex there with my son or have him be at her house so that I do not need to worry about putting him in unnecessary danger. I'm single and wouldn't otherwise have anyone to watch him. If I need to go out of the house for any reason, his mother would be there to take care of him. Still can't imagine letting her bf and their son in my home tho...
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She's an ex for a reason, once back under your roof rules won't mean crap, she will still push your buttons - hardly what you need to deal with in a stressful situation.

She could have done her own prep.

I really like the "get back to Dad bag" idea. Sounds like a cool way to have a fun afternoon out educating them while shopping for packs, etc. That sounds like a win on soo many levels.

Even if they have to rely on their packs without you, everything in and about those packs will remind your kids of you.
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She's an ex for a reason, once back under your roof rules won't mean crap, she will still push your buttons - hardly what you need to deal with in a stressful situation.

She could have done her own prep.

I really like the "get back to Dad bag" idea. Sounds like a cool way to have a fun afternoon out educating them while shopping for packs, etc. That sounds like a win on soo many levels.

Even if they have to rely on their packs without you, everything in and about those packs will remind your kids of you.
ALL very valid points.
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I've been divorced for almost 20 years. My EX cheated on me, and then used the kids to make my life a Living Hell for 20 years after she remarried. She has forced me to burn hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees, and child support (none of which went to supporting my kids).

The kids are all grown and on their own now, and the support has finally ended. If the EX came knocking on the door with her husband, I would treat her as I would any other FREEDLOADERS that came to my door expecting to receive food and shelter when they did nothing to help themselves when they had the chance before the SHFT.

I owe her and her husband nothing, and my children know how I feel about her, since they were forced to watch what she did to me (and them) from a front row seat for the past 20 years.
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