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Old 06-14-2014, 1:27 PM
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My understanding is that after receiving the livescan results, or maybe, after interviewing, (not sure which,) the 90 day clock for the required timely processing begins. We will hopefully know more this coming week, if the new policy here is announced, as some were informed. My info is second hand, btw.
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Old 06-20-2014, 11:04 PM
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Has there been a new announcement of Santa Cruz's new CCW policy yet. I can't find anything.
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Old 06-21-2014, 9:59 AM
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Note: Based on current law, the Sheriff does not consider self-defense or generalized personal safety concerns to constitute sufficient “good cause” for the issuance of a license. The United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit has issued a recent opinion to the contrary which would change current law if finalized in its current form (Peruta, et al., v. County of San Diego, et al.). However, because of a recent motion filed by the California Attorney General to intervene in that case, the Peruta decision is not yet final and is therefore not yet law. It is unclear at this point whether the Peruta opinion will be finalized in its current form or subject to further appeal. If and when the Peruta decision becomes final, the Sheriff will follow the law as the Sheriff understands it.
Well, at least they're upfront saying they're anti-CCW....

Actually, he's kind of deceptive in trying to make it seem like "current law" states that self-defense is insufficient Good Cause. The law allows any sheriff to accept self-defense as sufficient GC, just like they do RIGHT NOW in Sacramento, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Fresno, Kern, Ventura, Orange, and MOST rural counties!

And I like how he requires that applicants get 2 licensed professionals to put in writing that they think the applicant should be allowed to bear arms (costing the applicant more time, money, and effort):

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2. If directed: provide written evidence from a licensed physician that the applicant is not
currently suffering from any medical condition that would make the individual unsuitable
for carrying a concealed weapon. All costs paid by applicant.
3. Complete psychological testing, as directed, by an authorized psychologist used by the
Sheriff’s Office. The cost to the applicant may not exceed $150.00.
(emphasis added)

Bottom line: Sheriff Wowak, like most urban sheriffs, is nothing more than "a politician w/a badge & a gun"....
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:15 AM
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Well, at least they're upfront saying they're anti-CCW....

Actually, he's kind of deceptive in trying to make it seem like "current law" states that self-defense is insufficient Good Cause. The law allows any sheriff to accept self-defense as sufficient GC, just like they do RIGHT NOW in Sacramento, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Fresno, Kern, Ventura, Orange, and MOST rural counties!

And I like how he requires that applicants get 2 licensed professionals to put in writing that they think the applicant should be allowed to bear arms (costing the applicant more time, money, and effort):

(emphasis added)

Bottom line: Sheriff Hart, like most urban sheriffs, is nothing more than "a politician w/a gun and a badge"....
Just for clarity.
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:19 AM
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Just for clarity.
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The new policy's .pdf has Wowak's name on the letterhead as does SCSO's website: http://scsheriff.com/
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Old 06-21-2014, 10:23 AM
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The new policy's .pdf has Wowak's name on the letterhead.
Considering the way Hart came into office and the fact that he is INDEED nothing more than a politician with a badge, I guess it doesn't matter what name is on the doc.

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Old 06-21-2014, 10:27 AM
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Considering the way Hart came into office and the fact that he is INDEED nothing more than a politician with a badge, I guess it doesn't matter what name is on the doc.

Thanks Paladin,
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I just edited my reply to also mention that Wowack's name (and image) is on the SCSO's website.

Is Hart the next sheriff? If so, I don't think he takes office until 2015 January.
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I just edited my reply to also mention that Wowack's name (and image) is on the SCSO's website.

Is Hart the next sheriff? If so, I don't think he takes office until 2015 January.
Yes, Hart won the election. It makes sense that he would not take office immediately. But as we can see from this latest policy release, nothing in Santa Cruz is going to change anytime soon.

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Is there any current cal guns effort focused on changing the Santa Cruz County Policy? Happy to help if there is. Also is it worth applying now with self defense as GC with the hope that Peruta will still be finalized?
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Is there any current cal guns effort focused on changing the Santa Cruz County Policy? Happy to help if there is. Also is it worth applying now with self defense as GC with the hope that Peruta will still be finalized?
I also would like to know if Calguns Foundation or other have any plans for Santa Cruz county. I know a fair amount of people that would like to get a ccw in the county(me included). I would like to help if posibble.
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CalGuns Foundation is aware. Not sure what they are planning on doing. They said they would send them a letter.

https://twitter.com/CalgunsFdn/statu...46101139333121
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To put things in perspective the Sheriff's Office does not even provide CCW's for its Sheriff's Correctional Officers who deal with criminal's every hour of every shift. I wish you all luck and I'll be following your endeavors.

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To put things in perspective the Sheriff's Office does not even provide CCW's for its Sheriff's Correctional Officers who deal with criminal's every hour of every shift. I wish you all luck and I'll be following your endeavors.
That still doesn't make their actions against the public excusable.
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Completely agree^, but it shows your where they stand as far as CCW issuing. If they feel there own LE personnel aren't deserving of a CCW for viable threats to there safety then why would a public citizen be granted one. I really hope you guys make progress and change the views of the Sheriff/County. In turn hopefully it loosens the policies on its own personnel.
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Old 11-15-2014, 8:43 AM
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From the "CCW UPDATE" link on their homepage (http://scsheriff.com/):

CCW UPDATE

Members of the public wishing to obtain a CCW under the standards recently articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that the decision has not yet become final. Federal court rules prescribe a period of time which must elapse before the case is remanded to the District Court for further proceedings.

Applicants that seek a CCW permit under the self-defense standard set forth in Peruta will be processed in the order they are received should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final. Once the decision becomes final, applicants will be contacted by the Sheriff’s Office with instructions on how to complete the process.

In order to accommodate, and expedite, the large numbers of anticipated applications, the Sheriff’s Office and County Counsel are currently revising the process for issuing CCW permits.
(emphasis added)

I'll update the OP and the thread title now.
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Nope.
Peruta has to be resolved first.
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Old 09-18-2015, 8:24 PM
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From the "CCW UPDATE" link on their homepage (http://scsheriff.com/):

CCW UPDATE

Members of the public wishing to obtain a CCW under the standards recently articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that the decision has not yet become final. Federal court rules prescribe a period of time which must elapse before the case is remanded to the District Court for further proceedings.

Applicants that seek a CCW permit under the self-defense standard set forth in Peruta will be processed in the order they are received should the decision of the Ninth Circuit become final. Once the decision becomes final, applicants will be contacted by the Sheriff’s Office with instructions on how to complete the process.

In order to accommodate, and expedite, the large numbers of anticipated applications, the Sheriff’s Office and County Counsel are currently revising the process for issuing CCW permits.
(emphasis added)

I'll update the OP and the thread title now.
I don't know when they changed it, but there is now a new "CCW UPDATE" linked on their homepage:

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Members of the public seeking to obtain a CCW permit under the standards articulated by the Ninth Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego should be aware that on March 26, 2015 the Ninth Circuit ordered that the Peruta case be re-heard by a larger panel of judges. At some point in the future, the Ninth Circuit will issue a new opinion addressing the issues discussed in the Peruta case. Until the Ninth Circuit issues a new opinion, the Santa Cruz County Sheriff’s Office will continue to review applications for CCW permits under the standards it utilized prior to issuance of the original Peruta decision.
Well, at least they're actively monitoring Peruta and revising things as it progresses.
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I don't know when they changed it, but there is now a new "CCW UPDATE" linked on their homepage:



Well, at least they're actively monitoring Peruta and revising things as it progresses.
It has been there for almost a year.

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It has been there for almost a year.

That was the 1st update (which, as you can see, I had added to the OP on 2014 Nov 15). I'm talking about the 2nd update, the one about Peruta being taken en banc which I added to the OP yesterday.
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looking at the Sheriffs office website they have a CCW policy in place as of 6/18/16. Has anyone applied?

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looking at the Sheriffs office website they have a CCW policy in place as of 6/18/16. Has anyone applied?
Many applied and all denied.
After Peruta was put into a suspended state thanks to Att. Gen. Harris, we were sent a letter from the S.O. explaining our two choices: Go forward with the request (and get denied) or be put on hold until Peruta was ultimately decided (Circular file.)
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Many applied and all denied.
After Peruta was put into a suspended state thanks to Att. Gen. Harris, we were sent a letter from the S.O. explaining our two choices: Go forward with the request (and get denied) or be put on hold until Peruta was ultimately decided (Circular file.)
this county is still a no go huh?
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Cities of Watsonville and Scotts Valley may have recently issued a few licenses through their own PD, and not the SO. How many or why, I do not know.
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Cities of Watsonville and Scotts Valley may have recently issued a few licenses through their own PD, and not the SO. How many or why, I do not know.
Anyone have any more/new info re. this?

ETA: I briefly looked over their PDs' websites and did not find any CCW info.
https://cityofwatsonville.org/197/Police
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