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Old 02-22-2020, 6:22 AM
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Default Are CA Courts Trying To Start A Civil War? Fed Agents vs. Court Cops?

"Iíve said (on my deleted-by-Google former blog) that a shootout between Federal agents and local cops would start over the arrest of an illegal alien in a courtroom. It now looks like that is going to come true.

California has passed laws attempting to limit the authority of Federal agents to make immigration arrests. California has no such authority, and is on course to a violent conflict with Federal agents, not just the agencies that enforce immigration law, but all Federal law enforcement agencies.

And, as I predicted, the violence is coming, and it will start between U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Removal Operations (ICE ERO) agents making an arrest in a court and crazed local politicians ordering their investigators, deputy sheriffs, and police officers to use violence to protect illegal aliens.

And Civil War II almost got a start like Fort Sumter in a Sonoma County Superior Court (on February 19th) . . . "
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Old 02-22-2020, 6:32 AM
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Civil war II almost got started huh? A flair for the dramatic eh?
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Old 02-22-2020, 7:33 AM
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Yeah.... I don't think that'll happen.

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Old 02-22-2020, 7:39 AM
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I'm rather hoping it goes something like this.

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Old 02-22-2020, 8:22 AM
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Yeah, no. I don't think I know a single cop (even the biggest azz kisser looking to advance his career) who would follow an unlawful order like like that.
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Someone needs to eat a Snickers...

Local LEO'S don't care about Fed cops making arrests... politicians maycare. But real Cops... not so much.
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Old 02-22-2020, 9:03 AM
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"Iíve said (on my deleted-by-Google former blog) that a shootout between Federal agents and local cops would start over the arrest of an illegal alien in a courtroom. It now looks like that is going to come true.

California has passed laws attempting to limit the authority of Federal agents to make immigration arrests. California has no such authority, and is on course to a violent conflict with Federal agents, not just the agencies that enforce immigration law, but all Federal law enforcement agencies.

And, as I predicted, the violence is coming, and it will start between U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Removal Operations (ICE ERO) agents making an arrest in a court and crazed local politicians ordering their investigators, deputy sheriffs, and police officers to use violence to protect illegal aliens.

And Civil War II almost got a start like Fort Sumter in a Sonoma County Superior Court (on February 19th) . . . "
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No chance. None. Yelling and screaming and threatening are vastly different than shooting another American.

This coming from someone very familiar with what happened at Ft. Sumpter, actually, the Star of the West.
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Old 02-22-2020, 9:38 AM
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As a retired bailiff, I can tell you that only a judge can authorize an arrest in a courtroom or chambers.
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First person shot is judge or senior officer that orders attack an feds.
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As a retired bailiff, I can tell you that only a judge can authorize an arrest in a courtroom or chambers.
IRRELEVANT! Even if correct.

From what was published, and heard on the BS-media.

One arrest in parking lot. One in hallway, before entering court room.
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Old 02-23-2020, 3:47 PM
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OP must have stayed at a holiday inn last night
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Old 02-23-2020, 6:51 PM
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As a retired bailiff, I can tell you that only a judge can authorize an arrest in a courtroom or chambers.
Where does it say that in the penal code? Second, federal law ďTRUMPSĒ state penal codes. A judge is part of the judicial branch and they do NOT enforce the laws. Thatís what law enforcement does as part of the Executive branch.
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Old 02-23-2020, 7:36 PM
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Not true gumby. Chambers, maybe, but thatís not a ďpublicĒ place. Courtrooms are public. Arrests are open season in public places.

Iíve hooked people up plenty of times in courtrooms. Find out when their next court date is and show up as well. As a courtesy to the court, you let them finish whatever they came there for, but snatch them up first.

Although, I suppose it depends on what penal code you were sworn under, and state or federal court. But a normal cop in a state courtroom...arrest away.
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Old 02-23-2020, 8:40 PM
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Not true gumby. Chambers, maybe, but thatís not a ďpublicĒ place. Courtrooms are public. Arrests are open season in public places.

Iíve hooked people up plenty of times in courtrooms. Find out when their next court date is and show up as well. As a courtesy to the court, you let them finish whatever they came there for, but snatch them up first.

Although, I suppose it depends on what penal code you were sworn under, and state or federal court. But a normal cop in a state courtroom...arrest away.
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Old 02-23-2020, 9:29 PM
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Old 02-24-2020, 7:54 AM
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And everyone realizes the OP posted a link right? Itís not his thoughts, itís link to a website with some crazy guy ranting.
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