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I was disappointed that I did not see the following approved GC statements, I bang high-profile chicks and all the guys on Cal-guns are jealousy of me and was stupid enough to post a video of myself on you tube talking smack to Cal-guns or I am part of a 3 man tactical security unit at South Coast Plaza and I need to carry a fully automatic assault rifle with grenade launcher and of course a Deagle (.50 cal of course).
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Can we merge this thread with this thread, and this thread? It's getting confusing bouncing back and forth; having one place re: Orange County would be easier.
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First few denials seem to be cop-wannabe's.. "I need to defend myself and my clients". Or, the very first one admits to carrying even without a CCW.
Others are harder to understand.. The ophthalmologist probably should have been granted IMHO; I suspect it was the sentence at the end that said, "personal protection and protect my family". What he SHOULD HAVE said was to protect the business property and drugs that are stored on premises and transported between the home and business. But, for a lot of them the reason for the denial makes no sense... A mortgage broker who visits clients homes? That to me is perfectly good cause. So, I guess, yeah.. Seems a bit capricious why some get and some don't... Wonder if there were other factors at play? |
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Agreed. But, currently in OC that's not going to get a permit. In the meantime, your GC should probably not say that. That's all I was saying.
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No, actually.. I'm not. I sincerely hope I'm not actually pissing people off, as opposed to just having a lively discussion/debate
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Again, it went well for you and I'm happy for you - enjoy. An aside: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsY76EWmbWg
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NO ISSUE / MAY ISSUE / SHALL ISSUE - LTC progress over time since 1986 Last edited by NoJoke; 05-07-2012 at 9:32 AM.. |
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Why is one real estate agent approve and another denied? Why is one guy fearing work in bad neighborhoods approve and another denied? It's ridiculous. Of course there's moral character - which, I hope in our new LTC world will simply be a non-prohibited class individual.
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^^^ This! We all should be extremely grateful that there are those who are smart enough and have the audacity to push back gun control laws. My hats off to all of them!
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As far as the HVAC contractor, being a contractor myself, I have been in some pretty shady neighborhoods with tools, equipment and material worth $10,000+ (500 lbs of copper is an easy target, $300 tool is worth $20 of crack). You travel every where and not to places you are familiar. Been in downtown LA to come out to the truck to find every latch pried out, been stared down by vatos who took exception to my presence in thier "hood", and was suppose to be in south central the night of the riots (only being aware of the verdict and common sense saved me from being there). You don't f... with a mans tools and livelihood! My GC statement would follow along those lines.
I would look for similar statements and time frames where 1 applicant was approved and the other denied. Goes to equal protection vs favoritism.
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^^^The above is just an opinion. NRA Patron Member CRPA 5 yr Member "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson |
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It's not as hard to get a CCW as some would have you believe. But, yeah, keep the GC statement free of profanity though.. LOL |
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OC Sheriff's dept name for someone who is a Sheriff's volunteer, but not a cadet nor a sworn reserve officer, who has some special skill, training, education that aids the departments with the special need.
For instance, geologist (degree'd) might be used in Search and Rescue due to his expertise in soils, which could help identify the age of tracks and clues for a missing person, etc. Or a Mechnical Engineer to help design a new Mobile Tac truck. In the past many of these people were confused with and lumped in with the alleged "Carona" reseves, the ones that had badges and were lambasted in the press. The PSR's help departments get things done and for free, the benefit to the person who is the PSR is some training about the Sheriff dept, gives back to the community and in some cases may result in helping those professions that have continuing education requirements.
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My friend got his renewal denied. He has a check cashing place in a seedy part of town. He's been stuck up. The lea said "use a amour car service"
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IGD, Cool, Thanks for the detailed response.
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...maybe not.
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What time period are the approval and denials in? Reading through them there doesn't seem to be that many. Is OC's reputation such that no one applies? Maybe they have been culled? Any idea about when the other batches will be released? Most have to do with LE, firearms, and jewelers it seems. Some of the denials are very similar to ones that were approved.
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No sh*t Sherlock, did you come to that conclusion all by yourself? Quote:
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Since Orange County looks like it's going back to requiring something more than self defense "good cause," I thought I'd bump this thread (and get it moved to the CCW subforum). The original link to the denied and approved good cause statements on the CGF website is now broken, so if anyone still has those PDFs, I think it would be great to be able to read them.
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The volunteers (HowardW56 in particular) did a good job redacting out a lot of the more specific information before publication. Maybe the information is not as relevant anymore because it's a different Sheriff's discretion that the latest good cause statements must address, and nobody is really sure what qualifies and what doesn't. Nevertheless, some guidance from the past would be helpful. ETA: Turns out it's just outdated information. Paladin provides an explanation here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1#post15436351
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