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Old 04-16-2012, 8:10 PM
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Default CaPRC Centerfire Match at Angeles 04/22/12

It seems April is a match-heavy month. We had our rimfire match last Sunday and we will have our centerfire match this Sunday.

The California Precision Rifle Club is proud to announce their next centerfire match will be Sunday April 22nd at the Angeles Ranges.
For details about the Angeles Ranges, see their website: http://www.angelesranges.com



Signups start at 7:00am and shooting should start at 8:15am when the line goes hot.



Please arrive at the left side of the Angeles rifle range no later than 7:30am to sign-in and get assigned your shooter numbers.
Your shooters number is also your position on the line so please lineup accordingly.

Match fee is $20 for Caprc members or $30 for non members.
You can renew your membership at the match, just bring a recent NRA magazine cover with address label.
The match fee also includes use of the range after the match is completed.
We usually finish by 1pm.



Bring 70 rounds of match grade ammo.
Be prepared to shoot as close as 10yds and as far as 600yds.



Be prepared to shoot from standing, kneeling, seated, prone and other improvised postions.
Bring a backpack to shoot off of for stages that don't allow a bipod.



This match is open to bolt action and semi-auto rifles from 223 up through 308.
A velocity limit of 3100 fps will be in effect to reduce damage to club-owned steel targets.
Bipods, slings, shooting mats and rear bags are allowed and recommended.
Chamber flags are mandatory and are available from the club if needed.



Line helper RSVP's will be accepted anytime.
MemberRSVP's will be accepted after 12noon Monday 4/16.
Non-member RSVP's will be accepted after 12noon Tuesday 4/17.

You can RSVP here:

http://www.caprc.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3733
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:08 AM
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Here are some pics from yesterday's centerfire match.

Rifles on the rear bench:


Yesterday's course of fire:


Some targets:


Brad briefs the shooters before the match:


Nathan spots during one of the steel stages:


Randy shoots:

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Old 04-23-2012, 11:11 AM
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Alfred spots:


Some jumping jacks before the pool balls:


Henry on the pool balls:


Mike spots:


Pack-prone stage:



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More 300-yard pack-prone:


Some pack-prone targets:




Kneeling stage:





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Old 04-23-2012, 12:12 PM
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Transitions off the kneeling bench:


Joe spots and scores the impacts:


Mike's first match:


Bravo.

Randall spots:


Eddie's Savage with new Bushnell scope:


Guys, you don't need a million-dollar weapon and scope to shoot these matches. Eddie consistently scores very high with this combo.

Danny's scope:


Many claim you need a mil/mil scope. Danny shoots just fine with an MOA scope. He won a match with it. And the winner of yesterday's match shot an MOA scope. It's the shooter, not the equipment.
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:16 PM
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300 Win Mags:


.243s in AW magazines:


.308 and 6.5x47 Lapua:


I'm starting to get tempted by the lasers:


It's like the Dark Side of the Force.

Standing/offhand stage:


Mike:

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Old 04-23-2012, 12:19 PM
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Randy:


Randall announces the top guns:


Rich with third and Top 308:


Solomon in second:


Ray with the win:


The medalists:


Bravi.
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:22 PM
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CaPRC's next centerfire match will be Sunday, May 27th.

CaPRC's next rimfire match will be Sunday, June 24th.

We had five or six new shooters at yesterday's match. If you are looking to get started in match shooting, please join us in May or June. The rimfire matches are especially suited for getting your feet wet in match shooting.
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Old 04-23-2012, 3:51 PM
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These videos are courtesy of autoessentials (Rich, the third place and Top 308).

Jumping poolballs stage:


Run and gun:

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Gotta use that sling Mike! Another great match John. Hopefully we can get more shooters next month.
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You mean it's not for looks? Wasn't sure if it was allowed or not.
So many rules so little time. Looked down the line to see if anyone else was using theirs and then beeeeeeeeeeep. Lesson learned.
CAPRC screen name is Radiation Shooter by the way.
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Dont worry you're not the only one. I still had my scope doped for 200 yds for this stage. I was lucky enough to get two shots in.
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You don't need a sling in standing. A lot of times it will actually be detrimental to your shot.
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Nice pics and videos, i enjoy shooting at Angeles
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You don't need a sling in standing. A lot of times it will actually be detrimental to your shot.

I think I saw one of you vids where you were shooting w/o one. Can you give me any pointers? I can't seem to keep my point of aim steady w/o one. Maybe if I hold the rifle long enough I might be able to build some muscle memory.
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I think I saw one of you vids where you were shooting w/o one. Can you give me any pointers? I can't seem to keep my point of aim steady w/o one. Maybe if I hold the rifle long enough I might be able to build some muscle memory.
1. Orient body for NPA.
2. Bone support, not muscle support.
3. Trigger control.
4. Break the trigger immediately when the sight picture is good.

1 and 2 above will keep your wobble centered on target.

3 and 4 will mitigate the effect of wobble.

Try to break the trigger as your sights approach the center of the target or come into the target, not when it's on target.
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Do you use a sling during sitting/kneeling position?

Thanks for the tips. I will definitely have to try them.
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Yes, I use a sling in sitting. Although, for the course(s) of fire you guys shoot, I'm not sure how field expedient a sling will be. Using a Tactical Intervention quick-cuff sling is probably the best bet for this type of shooting.
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Official scores are up.

We had 23 shooters show up to shoot today's match out of 26 RSVP's.
We had five 1st time Caprc match shooters.
Brad ran the match.
JoeV, Randall & Charlie helped run the line.
Total round count for the day was 58.
There were 10 stages with 1150 total points possible.

The course of fire was as follows:

Match rules:
Bolt must be open during any position changes.
5 rounds maximum in the gun at any time.
Support side means support side eye and trigger finger.
Unsupported positional stages use NRA legal positions only.

Stage 1
400yd coldbore
Round count: 1
On the start signal, engage the 6" plate with 1 shot from the prone position. Start position is standing behind the prepped rifle, loaded magazine with the bolt back.
70 points for a hit
70 points possible
60 seconds prep, 15 second shoot time.

Stage 2
100yd jumping poolballs
Round count: 10
On the start signal, engage the solid poolballs with 1 shot each from the prone position. The 8 ball is optional. A hit to the 8 ball without also hitting all other solid balls causes the shooter to lose all points.
10 points per ball except the 8 ball is worth 30 or zero points if all solids are not hit.
100 points possible.
60 seconds prep, 25 jumping jacks, 60 second shoot time.

Stage 3
Pack support
Round count: 6
On the start signal, engage the 300yd ipsc with 6 shots from the prone position off a pack. You may not use a bipod or rear bag. The rifle must only be supported over a pack.
Scoring per the target
120 points possible
60 seconds prep, 40 second shoot time.

Stage 4
Sitting unsupported
On the start signal, engage the specified 100yd ipsc target with 8 shots from the seated position.
Round count: 8
Scoring per the target
160 points possible
60 seconds prep, 60 second shoot time.

Stage 5
Kneeling unsupported
On the start signal, engage the specified 100yd ipsc target with 8 rounds from the kneeling position.
Round count: 8
Scoring per the target
160 points possible
60 seconds prep, 90 second shoot time.

Stage 6
Random callouts
On the start signal, engage the specified green targets with 1 shot each from the prone position as they are called out. No artificial rear support may be used, bare hand only.
The targets are the following: half-size ISPC at 600, 10" dot at 500, 8" dot at 400 and 6" dot at 300
Round count: 8
20 points per hit
160 points possible
60 seconds prep, 100 second shoot time.

Stage 7
Kneeling supported transistions
On the start signal, engage the 350yd hostage, 200yd little man and 100yd 2" shoot-n-see dot from the kneeling position over the bench in the following order: 100-200-350-200-350-200-100. No artificial rear support may be used, bare hand only.
Round count: 7
15 points per hit
105 points possible
60 seconds prep, 70 second shoot time.

Stage 8
Stressfire
On the start signal, run to your rifle and engage the 200yd little men from left to right with 1 round each. Shooter starts with 1 round in his hand and must retrieve each additional round from the bench behind the firing line.
Round count: 4
25 points per hit
100 points possible
60 seconds prep, 70 second shoot time.

Stage 9
Standing unsupported
On the start signal, engage the specified 100yd ipsc target with 5 rounds from the offhand position.
Round count: 5
Scoring per the target
125 points possible
60 seconds prep, 80 second shoot time.

Stage 10
Hotbore
Round count: 1
On the start signal, engage the 100yd 3/4" diamond with 1 shot from the prone position.
50 points for a hit
50 points possible
60 seconds prep, 10 second shoot time


Scores were as follows:

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You bet. If your new to positional shooting and using a sling, check out the Appleseed classes out in Piru. It's a basic class, but its all about learning proper positions, sling use, NPOA, etc.
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Thanks for the tips. I will definitely have to try them.
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You bet. If your new to positional shooting and using a sling, check out the Appleseed classes out in Piru. It's a basic class, but its all about learning proper positions, sling use, NPOA, etc.
Not new to me. That's how I learned to shoot in the Corps. What is new to me is not utilizing one during standing.
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I'm not a Distinguished Rifleman like Jonathan, so take my opinion for what little it is worth, but I don't think the sling helps in standing or offhand either. The sling helps tons in kneeling, sitting, and prone--anywhere the elbow can rest on something and the sling can maintain the angles of the arm relative to the weapon. That way the weapon is supported by leather and bone rather than muscle.

Jeff Cooper thought the same thing for field shooting.
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I'm not a Distinguished Rifleman like Jonathan, so take my opinion for what little it is worth, but I don't think the sling helps in standing or offhand either. The sling helps tons in kneeling, sitting, and prone--anywhere the elbow can rest on something and the sling can maintain the angles of the arm relative to the weapon. That way the weapon is supported by leather and bone rather than muscle.

Jeff Cooper thought the same thing for field shooting.
It make sense
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