Got My CCW Today !!.....But...

[ANARCANGEL]

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[armygunsmith]

WTH, I don't understand why they put restrictions on CCWs. Your life is only important part of the time.

[Big Jake]

There must have been soemthing in your good cause statement or something you said in your interview that they would restrict it to work only!

That sucks because you can't travel to other parts of the state and ccw unless work related. Yuck!

[leitung]

CCW Fail...



LOL J/K maybe you could appeal it?

[blackberg]

get a part time job evaluating the breathable air around you ...that sucks, there shoud be something you can do
-bb

[Big Jake]

The only problem is if the LEO who stops you does not believe that you are on "business" then they could arrest you or get your ccw revoked. You should rehearse some answers to possible scenarios that may occur if stopped by LEO while carrying.

This way you can justify " On Business"!

[makav3li]

Originally Posted by ANARCANGEL

I talked to a sargent this afternoon and tried to clear it up. First off.....there are NO appeals period. But I also was told that anytime that I am doing something for the business...going to the bank, picking up supplies, out on the town looking for more business,ect. I can leagally carry. So if Im driving up to Sacramento or down to LA. If a cop pulls me over and asks to see the permit, I tell him I driving to a "convention"...you know...for the business. Or if Im in Wal Mart and carrying, Im there for supplies....you know...for the business.

finding prospective clients at a bar or night club lol

[bohoki]

i'm sure you have plenty of homework

[unconvictedfelons.com]

Originally Posted by blackberg

get a part time job evaluating the breathable air around you ...that sucks, there shoud be something you can do
-bb

bahaha, nice

[thefinger]

Originally Posted by ANARCANGEL

Farmers are land owners, most are pretty well to do and many are also influential....like when it comes time for a sheriff to be re-elected.

I know some farmers/ranchers who have ccw. You're right about them generally being well-to-do. And you're also right about that being a big factor in ccw permit issuance. total BS.

[ty423]

Originally Posted by makav3li

finding prospective clients at a bar or night club lol

Can't carry at a bar unless they serve food and make a certain percent of profit on food.

Also you can't have any alcohol while carrying.

Night club same thing. You probably won't get pass the search anyways.

[mej16489]

Originally Posted by ty423

Can't carry at a bar unless they serve food and make a certain percent of profit on food.

Also you can't have any alcohol while carrying.

Night club same thing. You probably won't get pass the search anyways.

Can you back up these assertions with CA Law? (Presuming these restrictions are not printed on the issued license - "Reasonable Restrictions" are defined by the issuing authority, not the state)

[cvgunright]

Originally Posted by mej16489

Can you back up these assertions with CA Law? (Presuming these restrictions are not printed on the issued license - "Reasonable Restrictions" are defined by the issuing authority, not the state)

this is direct from the application for california

The licensee is responsible for all liability for, injury to, or death of any person, or damage to any
property which may result through any act or omission of either the licensee or the agency that issued
the license. In the event any claim, suit, or action is brought against the agency that issued the license,
its chief officer or any of its employees, by reason of, or in connection with any such act or omission,
the licensee shall defend, indemnify, and hold harmless the agency that issued the license, its chief
officer or any of its employees from such claim, suit, or action.
The licensee authorizes the licensing agency to investigate, as they deem necessary, the licensee’s
record and character to ascertain any and all information which may concern his/her qualifications and
justification to be issued a license to carry a concealed weapon and release said agency of any and all
liability arising out of such investigation.
While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee
shall not, when carrying a concealed weapon:
• Consume any alcoholic beverage.
• Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site
consumption.• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
• Refuse to show the license or surrender the concealed weapon to any peace officer upon
demand.
• Impede any peace officer in the performance of his/her duties.
• Present himself/herself as a peace officer to any person unless he/she is, in fact, a peace
officer as defined by California law.
• Unjustifiably display a concealed weapon.
• Carry a concealed weapon not listed on the permit.
• Carry a concealed weapon at times or circumstances other than those specified in the permit.

[aemergin]

• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.

Does this include simple medications like cholesterol, blood pressure, diabetes, etc. medications? Sounds like it does .. how can this be allowed?

[mej16489]

That's not CA Law...

The million dollar question is if any of those restrictions are enforeceable in terms of the permit being 'invalid' under the stated conditions.

Originally Posted by cvgunright

this is direct from the application for california

The licensee is responsible for all liability for, injury to, or death of any person, or damage to any
property which may result through any act or omission of either the licensee or the agency that issued
the license. In the event any claim, suit, or action is brought against the agency that issued the license,
its chief officer or any of its employees, by reason of, or in connection with any such act or omission,
the licensee shall defend, indemnify, and hold harmless the agency that issued the license, its chief
officer or any of its employees from such claim, suit, or action.
The licensee authorizes the licensing agency to investigate, as they deem necessary, the licensee’s
record and character to ascertain any and all information which may concern his/her qualifications and
justification to be issued a license to carry a concealed weapon and release said agency of any and all
liability arising out of such investigation.
While exercising the privileges granted to the licensee under the terms of this license, the licensee
shall not, when carrying a concealed weapon:
• Consume any alcoholic beverage.
• Be in a place having a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site
consumption.• Be under the influence of any medication or drug, whether prescribed or not.
• Refuse to show the license or surrender the concealed weapon to any peace officer upon
demand.
• Impede any peace officer in the performance of his/her duties.
• Present himself/herself as a peace officer to any person unless he/she is, in fact, a peace
officer as defined by California law.
• Unjustifiably display a concealed weapon.
• Carry a concealed weapon not listed on the permit.
• Carry a concealed weapon at times or circumstances other than those specified in the permit.